Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by Hammer

Shouldn't take Mark long to post a snap of Kedra and himself with this thread open on his monitor.

Here you go Hammer! (Note that we included your post in the left-hand monitor)












Once again, Shellee, Where is your PROOF? Oh and nice job talking to Kedra on the phone just now. You said you had PROOF, so Where is it?

Gonzo, I think you need to point your LIAR rants in a new direction.

OWNED, Shellee. OWNED, Gonzo.

Oh and everyone, Kedra is a GREAT Converter and makes webmasters lots of money. You really need to send her your traffic. (Hey - at least someone can beniifit from the shitfest that this thread has become!)



Cheers all!

Mark Prince
http://www.2Much.net
http://www.LiveCamNetwork.com

[gonzo]

Dude you have no idea the ICQs Im getting.

Whats your paypal address?
I feel sorry for you.

Please dont stop.

Rcourt youve been bested!

[gonzo]

All this MAC address debate reminded me that we have a security advisor on staff here ....

The O signal has been ignited.

Would someone from Mitnick Security Consulting please answer a support call from your friends her at Oprano?

[moetheman]

Originally Posted by gonzo

All this MAC address debate reminded me that we have a security advisor on staff here ....

The O signal has been ignited.

Would someone from Mitnick Security Consulting please answer a support call from your friends her at Oprano?

Oh SHIT Gonzo! You have THEM on YOUR SIDE?

My respects, Don Gonzo, my respects

Cheers,

MoeTheMan

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by moetheman

Oh SHIT Gonzo! You have THEM on YOUR SIDE?

My respects, Don Gonzo, my respects

Cheers,

MoeTheMan

Kevin and Darci Wood are both friends of Oprano.

If you dont know the history of how that came about remind me to link you to the boards most popular thread of all time when you have a weekend to kill....

If you dont know Darci shes was one of those lab techie chicks on G4 with Leo Laporte etc.

You can check her blog out at http://www.agirlandhermac.com

Im sure they will be wrong too though.

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by gonzo

Kevin and Darci Wood are both friends of Oprano.

If you dont know the history of how that came about remind me to link you to the boards most popular thread of all time when you have a weekend to kill....

If you dont know Darci shes was one of those lab techie chicks on G4 with Leo Laporte etc.

You can check her blog out at http://www.agirlandhermac.com

Im sure they will be wrong too though.

Sheez man, we don't need to be bothering Kevin and Darci (however Darci can show her cute little face anytime she wants as far as I'm concerned) We can solve the MAC Address debate real easy:

An http protocol packet has 5 layers:

The physical layer (actual computers)
The ethernet layers (this contains the MAC address of the two machines that are talking to each other - sender and reciever)
The IP layer - contains the destination ip
The TCP layer which contains the port info
and the http layer whc\ich contains the actual request

So, like I said, even though we normally do not see the ethernet layer (the MAC addresses) when we are doing our every day processing, it is there and can be detected by a packet sniffer.

here is the breakdown on a packet: from http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2001...SD_Basics.html

---------------------------------------------------------------
Packet 10
TIME: 10:25:36.854420 (6.232947)
LINK: 00:00:B4:3C:56:40 -> 00:50:BAE:36:33 type=IP
IP: biko -> genisis hlen=20 TOS=10 dgramlen=44 id=0013
MF/DF=0/1 frag=0 TTL=64 proto=TCP cksum=26A7
TCP: port blackjack -> telnet seq=3205630181 ack=0000000000
hlen=24 (data=0) UAPRSF=000010 wnd=16384 cksum=7814 urg=0
DATA:
---------------------------------------------------------------Not counting the TIME heading, there are four parts to this packet. The LINK heading represents the Layer 2 frame. Normally, this is the portion of the packet that is monitored by the NIC; you'll note that it contains the MAC address of the sending computer and the MAC address of the destination computer. There are several different types of Ethernet frames; I can tell this is an Ethernet_II frame since it contains a "type" field.

More here http://www.newartisans.com/blog_file...tcp.packet.php

[gonzo]

Hahaha I think I can afford to call in a few favors from them.
You know as well as I do they both hate liars as much as I do.

Should we call the new show LieBusters?

Originally Posted by sarettah

Sheez man, we don't need to be bothering Kevin and Darci (however Darci can show her cute little face anytime she wants as far as I'm concerned) We can solve the MAC Address debate real easy:

An http protocol packet has 5 layers:

The physical layer (actual computers)
The ethernet layers (this contains the MAC address of the two machines that are talking to each other - sender and reciever)
The IP layer - contains the destination ip
The TCP layer which contains the port info
and the http layer whc\ich contains the actual request

So, like I said, even though we normally do not see the ethernet layer (the MAC addresses) when we are doing our every day processing, it is there and can be detected by a packet sniffer.

here is the breakdown on a packet: from http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2001...SD_Basics.html

---------------------------------------------------------------
Packet 10
TIME: 10:25:36.854420 (6.232947)
LINK: 00:00:B4:3C:56:40 -> 00:50:BAE:36:33 type=IP
IP: biko -> genisis hlen=20 TOS=10 dgramlen=44 id=0013
MF/DF=0/1 frag=0 TTL=64 proto=TCP cksum=26A7
TCP: port blackjack -> telnet seq=3205630181 ack=0000000000
hlen=24 (data=0) UAPRSF=000010 wnd=16384 cksum=7814 urg=0
DATA:
---------------------------------------------------------------Not counting the TIME heading, there are four parts to this packet. The LINK heading represents the Layer 2 frame. Normally, this is the portion of the packet that is monitored by the NIC; you'll note that it contains the MAC address of the sending computer and the MAC address of the destination computer. There are several different types of Ethernet frames; I can tell this is an Ethernet_II frame since it contains a "type" field.

More here http://www.newartisans.com/blog_file...tcp.packet.php

[moetheman]

Originally Posted by sarettah

Sheez man, we don't need to be bothering Kevin and Darci (however Darci can show her cute little face anytime she wants as far as I'm concerned) We can solve the MAC Address debate real easy:

An http protocol packet has 5 layers:

The physical layer (actual computers)
The ethernet layers (this contains the MAC address of the two machines that are talking to each other - sender and reciever)
The IP layer - contains the destination ip
The TCP layer which contains the port info
and the http layer whc\ich contains the actual request

So, like I said, even though we normally do not see the ethernet layer (the MAC addresses) when we are doing our every day processing, it is there and can be detected by a packet sniffer.

here is the breakdown on a packet: from http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2001...SD_Basics.html

---------------------------------------------------------------
Packet 10
TIME: 10:25:36.854420 (6.232947)
LINK: 00:00:B4:3C:56:40 -> 00:50:BAE:36:33 type=IP
IP: biko -> genisis hlen=20 TOS=10 dgramlen=44 id=0013
MF/DF=0/1 frag=0 TTL=64 proto=TCP cksum=26A7
TCP: port blackjack -> telnet seq=3205630181 ack=0000000000
hlen=24 (data=0) UAPRSF=000010 wnd=16384 cksum=7814 urg=0
DATA:
---------------------------------------------------------------Not counting the TIME heading, there are four parts to this packet. The LINK heading represents the Layer 2 frame. Normally, this is the portion of the packet that is monitored by the NIC; you'll note that it contains the MAC address of the sending computer and the MAC address of the destination computer. There are several different types of Ethernet frames; I can tell this is an Ethernet_II frame since it contains a "type" field.

More here http://www.newartisans.com/blog_file...tcp.packet.php

Very interesting.

According to what I had read on the subject, the only reliable way to obtain the MAC addy is to either enter Layer 2 and get it yourself or (preferably) have software go there, grab it, and send it back to you . . .

Either way though, I agree that it is settled, insofar as my original point went: you can be tracked by MAC address on the internet.

Disclaimer: I am a Larval stage Pythonista/Rubyist . . . not into networking/security that much at all . . .

[moetheman]

Originally Posted by gonzo

Kevin and Darci Wood are both friends of Oprano.

If you dont know the history of how that came about remind me to link you to the boards most popular thread of all time when you have a weekend to kill....

If you dont know Darci shes was one of those lab techie chicks on G4 with Leo Laporte etc.

You can check her blog out at http://www.agirlandhermac.com

Im sure they will be wrong too though.

Allright!

Yes, please post the link, I don't have a weekend to kill but it sounds interesting . . .

And no, I didn't know Darci . . . checking out her blog right now.

[ScottMcGowan]

I thought I made it clear that we expected tits in the photos.

Sheesh. It's like trying to talk to a manhole cover.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by ScottMcGowan

I thought I made it clear that we expected tits in the photos.

Sheesh. It's like trying to talk to a manhole cover.

Very sorry, Scott!

I will ask Kedra for a Tit shot and get back to you.

In the mean time, here's a picture of another chat girl that works for us that may help you out.




Cheers!

Mark Prince
http://www.2Much.net/
http://www.LiveCamNetwork.com

[Sexyteaser]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

Here you go Hammer! (Note that we included your post in the left-hand monitor)

Once again, Shellee, Where is your PROOF? Oh and nice job talking to Kedra on the phone just now. You said you had PROOF, so Where is it?

Gonzo, I think you need to point your LIAR rants in a new direction.

OWNED, Shellee. OWNED, Gonzo.

Oh and everyone, Kedra is a GREAT Converter and makes webmasters lots of money. You really need to send her your traffic. (Hey - at least someone can beniifit from the shitfest that this thread has become!)



Cheers all!

Mark Prince
http://www.2Much.net
http://www.LiveCamNetwork.com

Well Mark as you might be aware I don't show all my cards at once. Some cards I am waiting to use in a more appropriate forum.. Now if you were recording the call or something then why don't you just post it for everyone to hear I pretty much laid out your whole scam to Kedra which is why she was crying. She has been selling this for you and I don't think she felt very good about selling a license to people for you to have a venue to steal from them.

All I can say is at my second conference I was warned in detail about you from another victim and since then they have come out of the wood work one by one, I hung on as long as could to gather as much evidence as possible and will use it as I please.

For anyone that is going to say then take legal action... let me reply with this suing Mark Prince who doesn't even own a home would be like walking to the toilet and tearing up the cash to flush away - He is worthless and he has so many victims a class action suit which is warranted would net me nothing but headaches a lot like these little rants that waste my time.