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Old 06-20-2007   #1
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Fort Mitchell Police continue to investigate a couple that was allegedly running a live internet pornography site out of their apartment.

The "Naughty Wife Next Door" web site continues to operate even after police seized the couple's four computers and multiple web cameras.
Police suspect Jennifer and Michael Lunsford starting running the live subscription porn web site from their apartment at the Fountains At Lakeside Park complex off Buttermilk Pike and Interstates 71/75, shortly after they moved in last Fall.

After a two-month investigation, officers raided the Lunsfords' apartment on Friday, leaving neighbors both surprised and shocked.

Those who shared the same building area with the Lunsfords say they never suspected anything unusual was going on next door at 63 Dunster Court. All they saw was a couple with four children.

But, that changed radically last Friday. Neighbor Terry Hansley says, "Actually, we had come home and we had seen the police cruisers there. And a bunch of people all milling around, talking. And they had gotten started talking and they had mentioned it was some kind of internet porn sting."
Fort Mitchell Police raided the three-story townhouse apartment, because they found that the Lunford's X-rated web site, "The Naughty Wife Next Door" was being run out of the townhouse.

Fort Mitchell Police Sgt. Jim Bussman tells 9News, "The information we received was they were running a computer-type industry out of their apartment, a sexually-oriented one where they were videotaping sexual activity.

Police say Jennifer Lunsford ran a for-pay subscription web site offering sexual pictures, videos and live web camera views over the Internet. "We are looking at violation of Kenton County's sexually-oriented businesses, also we have one in the city of Fort Mitchell as well," Sgt. Bussman said.

Police removed all four children from the apartment, putting them in the custody of relatives. The reason had nothing immediately to do with the web site, according to Sgt. Bussman. "It was dirty in every single room. There were bugs present in the apartment. Part of the ceiling was collapsing, I think from a water leak. It was just nasty."

By Thursday afternoon, it was clear the apartment had been vacated. There was a lot of furniture, clothing and electronics boxes had been left behind.


Terry Hansley, a neighbor, also said it appeared the couple was moving. "To have four children in the house, absolutely, it really was a shock to all of us."
A New Hampshire subscriber to the website tipped police off when he complained he paid $8,000 for access to the site that he never got. He first filed a complaint with the FBI's Internet Crime Complaint Center.

The Boone County Sheriff's Office is going through the Lunsfords' computer hard drives, to see if there might be evidence of any other crimes. The Lunsfords currently have not been charged.
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I'll see if I can get Jen and/or Mike to drop by and post.
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Where the hell is ft mitchell?

I ran webcam studios out of residences for years in Ca. Oh. and Fl and even had cops show up for other issues but never had a prob about the actual running of the biz

I even had the FBI rent an apt across the street from my studios in Cleveland and watch me for 2 weeks after appearing in a front page article in the local rag about the biz
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It seems like the way things work these days is that first they raid and confiscate "evidence", then try to make their case.

When is this country going to stop being so damn uptight whenever the word SEX is used?
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Thanks Toby for the heads up. There were a lot of stories flying around but i hadn't seen this one. It's actually pretty ridiculous how some of the BS these cops say is perpetuated as fact. The police showed up and served the warrant and made us come outside so that their photographer friend from the newspaper could get a good photo of the "pornographers getting raided". I was told we could remain or leave at our choice. I had Jen take the kids and get them out of this fiasco. Why the Ft Michell police deemed it necessary to send 5 police in bulletproof vests to serve a search warrant on a zoning violation is beyond me. Was the house immaculate, No, but dirty in every room with bugs, I think not. Was there damage to a ceiling, yes and it hand been there since we moved in. It was water damage to a soffit in the dining room (about a 2ft by 2ft area) caused by a previous leak that the complex had just managed to resolve in the pervious week. If the conditions were as terrible as stated, and they had been conducting a 2 month investigation then why didn't they remove the children from the start, because the raid was only meant to run the "porno people" out of town.

Quite honestly, I didn't do my homework about local zoning laws, and probably was in violation (I can't say for sure because the wording of the ordinance is really directed toward retail establishments). After the raid and their level of zealousness and knowing the media would be arriving shortly and now knowing that I could not continue to run the website while there, I first got the kids out and then went back to gather up essential necessities (yes we did leave a lot behind). I was also concerned by the fact that the former member who had started all this still had that address and was obviously crazy enough to do anything to damage Jen. A number of cameras, computers, documents and other gear were taken with no idea when or if they will be returned. After leaving the area and staying with family and friends since, we first tried to sell the site to insulate us from 2257 requirements and ownership issues regarding other zoning ordinances. We have since began selling off the content on a semi-exclusive basis so that we could get resettled and get new equipment. My first priority is that my family is safe, but my second is that these anti-porn zealots will not shut the site down!

After reviewing zoning ordinances in a number of small localities, I would advise that everyone double check their local ordinances. I have found similar wording in a number of small towns and villages that I have investigated, and in fact found other programs that are potentially in violation (and have warned them directly).

Thanks for taking the time to read my side of the situation.

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Some guy claimed he paid $8000 for access to the site? WTF?

I guess I'm missing it, but what were they charged with?
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Thanks Toby for the heads up. There were a lot of stories flying around but i hadn't seen this one. It's actually pretty ridiculous how some of the BS these cops say is perpetuated as fact. The police showed up and served the warrant and made us come outside so that their photographer friend from the newspaper could get a good photo of the "pornographers getting raided". I was told we could remain or leave at our choice. I had Jen take the kids and get them out of this fiasco. Why the Ft Michell police deemed it necessary to send 5 police in bulletproof vests to serve a search warrant on a zoning violation is beyond me. Was the house immaculate, No, but dirty in every room with bugs, I think not. Was there damage to a ceiling, yes and it hand been there since we moved in. It was water damage to a soffit in the dining room (about a 2ft by 2ft area) caused by a previous leak that the complex had just managed to resolve in the pervious week. If the conditions were as terrible as stated, and they had been conducting a 2 month investigation then why didn't they remove the children from the start, because the raid was only meant to run the "porno people" out of town.

Quite honestly, I didn't do my homework about local zoning laws, and probably was in violation (I can't say for sure because the wording of the ordinance is really directed toward retail establishments). After the raid and their level of zealousness and knowing the media would be arriving shortly and now knowing that I could not continue to run the website while there, I first got the kids out and then went back to gather up essential necessities (yes we did leave a lot behind). I was also concerned by the fact that the former member who had started all this still had that address and was obviously crazy enough to do anything to damage Jen. A number of cameras, computers, documents and other gear were taken with no idea when or if they will be returned. After leaving the area and staying with family and friends since, we first tried to sell the site to insulate us from 2257 requirements and ownership issues regarding other zoning ordinances. We have since began selling off the content on a semi-exclusive basis so that we could get resettled and get new equipment. My first priority is that my family is safe, but my second is that these anti-porn zealots will not shut the site down!

After reviewing zoning ordinances in a number of small localities, I would advise that everyone double check their local ordinances. I have found similar wording in a number of small towns and villages that I have investigated, and in fact found other programs that are potentially in violation (and have warned them directly).

Thanks for taking the time to read my side of the situation.

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Mike thank you for dropping by with your side of the story. I know from the past that you guys have really been hassled for persuing this business.

What are your future plans?
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I guess I'm missing it, but what were they charged with?
No charges have been filed.
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Many times I thank God I am Candian and live in a truly free country. I shake my head at what Americans have to suffer.
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I believe he paid $8k for cam shows, in advance, from what I've read.

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I believe he paid $8k for cam shows, in advance, from what I've read.
What a moron.

Were they producing the porn while their kids were in the house? Seems like it would be hard not to with 4 of them and if they were, I think they deserve a lot more than some hassles over zoning.
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What a moron.

Were they producing the porn while their kids were in the house? Seems like it would be hard not to with 4 of them and if they were, I think they deserve a lot more than some hassles over zoning.
Hey Hammer.. good to see you back man, its been too long.

You are wrong, that is like saying that I cannot have sex with my wife in our own home unless the kids are off visiting other people and not in the house.

A cam show is sex with a webcam running, lots of amateur flicks out there with a couple having sex in their own bedroom with a camcorder set up. I am sure that when they did these cam shows their children were not holding the camera. I can't say for sure what happened in their house but I would strongly suspect that their kids never even knew what Mommy and Daddy did. The ones who caused any damage to these kids are the police who acted like they were busting a meth lab instead of someone running a business out of their home.

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What a moron.

Were they producing the porn while their kids were in the house? Seems like it would be hard not to with 4 of them and if they were, I think they deserve a lot more than some hassles over zoning.
I love when people jump to conclusions, in the absence of facts. We did NOT produce content with the kids in the house. If you feel this strongly, you might want to move to Ft Mitchell. Did we have sex while the kids were in the house, YES, maybe we should be run out for that as well! Hell, we had four kids, so there must have been sex occurring, let's just shoot em for that.
Just to clarify a bit, one of the main reasons we did the site was so that we could be home with the kids and not dump them in daycare. We could produce content while they were at school or visiting relatives.

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Mike thank you for dropping by with your side of the story. I know from the past that you guys have really been hassled for persuing this business.

What are your future plans?
Thanks for the opportunity to vent a little. We are working to rebuild after losing all our stuff. We refuse to let these narrow-minded people shut us down.
Since we seem to be having trouble finding someone who wants our site exclusively, we've decided to make all the content available non-exclusively. Unfortunately, we need to get cash to get set back up with cameras, equipment, etc. so here's a chance to get enough content to set up your own solo site or add something to your members area. I've just taken an inventory of everything and here is what there is.
There is about 14 gigs of content. There are 113 pic sets for a total of 10,775 pics. These are either 1536x2048 or 1536x2304. There are 66 movies with a total running time of nearly 13 hours. these are encoded as WMV's at 720x480, the last 9 are shot in HD and encoded at 1280x720. All of these currently have a watermark, so they will need to be cropped or a new watermark placed over the existing.
In order to get cash quickly I am selling it for $2000 per copy. I will limit the number of these that I am selling to 25. If you are seriously interested, I will get you a members area pass to see the actual content. Payment must be made by check or money order. I will make the content available for download as soon as I can get it up to the server in zipsets. I will supply the license and 2257 docs as soon as payment clears.
Additionally, as soon as we get settled and get new equipment, updates will be available to anyone purchasing the package. So you will be able to continue to update if you make a site from this content.

Here are some samples for you.

Here are links to 3 pics:
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I asked Mike to post his packages and prices here.

I know they have been hassled a lot over the past few years.

I know a lot of us are looking for content to round out members areas. So if your looking they are selling.
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I love when people jump to conclusions, in the absence of facts.
Did you see me jump to a conclusion? I asked a question. If I was jumping to a conclusion I wouldn't have started by saying, "Were they producing the porn while their kids were in the house?"

And in case you thought otherwise, when I said, "What a moron", I was referring to the moron that paid 8 grand in advance for cam shows.

Thanks for the welcome back Spaz, but I disagree. There's a big difference between me having sex with my wife quietly in our room while our kids are asleep and someone producing sex videos or cam shows, especially if they're bringing in other people.

Of course, that's just my opinion too.

If they were indeed shooting while their kids were in school or other places, then I have no problem with that. Then again, we all know there are places where it's legal to produce porn and other than south Florida, where it's sort of overlooked, the only place where it's technically legal, is L.A. county California. Shooting porn elsewhere is a risky business and not just because of zoning laws. When you shoot in a house where children live, then you're just asking for trouble.
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There is a HUGE difference
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There is a HUGE difference
This plays kind of into the Jim Manley case as well. Which I am sure Hammer knows about as well as I do.

As an aside I heve neer shot or even worked on an adult website when there were children in this house. But I can see how soeone could use that to the local police to make someone s life a living hell.
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This plays kind of into the Jim Manley case as well. Which I am sure Hammer knows about as well as I do.

As an aside I heve neer shot or even worked on an adult website when there were children in this house. But I can see how soeone could use that to the local police to make someone s life a living hell.
Its not just about doing it while the children are in the house. In the laws eyes running an adult enterprise from a home where there are children present at any time is not a good idea. And in this case it seems to be a zonning issue. I know for a fact that zoning becomes an issue when running a LIVE operation from a home. Running paysites is one thing but doing live shows and or filming sexual acts in a non zoned area while get u in trouble.

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Thanks for the welcome back Spaz, but I disagree. There's a big difference between me having sex with my wife quietly in our room while our kids are asleep and someone producing sex videos or cam shows, especially if they're bringing in other people.

Of course, that's just my opinion too.
Yup, that's what makes these forums we like so much work.. people having differing opinion and in Oprano's case we can disagree without screaming and name calling and no one ends up in the corner sucking their thumbs heh heh


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Yup, that's what makes these forums we like so much work.. people having differing opinion and in Oprano's case we can disagree without screaming and name calling and no one ends up in the corner sucking their thumbs heh heh


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ya know running a porn biz from a home where children are is not like selling mary kay shit out of your house.

we are held to a different standard due the the nature of our content and I have to say I agree with some of it

In today's porn world if u cant afford a 500 a month office to do your work in and u have children get ready to have some major issues.
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ya know running a porn biz from a home where children are is not like selling mary kay shit out of your house.

we are held to a different standard due the the nature of our content and I have to say I agree with some of it

In today's porn world if u cant afford a 500 a month office to do your work in and u have children get ready to have some major issues.
You've left off a few things. There's more needed than just a $500 office. That office will also have to be a studio, complete with assorted furnishings to make it look like a room in a home, not like a sterile photo studio. In order to have more than one "set" you're very quickly getting into an office much larger than you can get for $500 a month, and a considerable cash outlay for furnishings.

A great deal of the charm and appeal of true independent amateur sites is the fact that the surfer/member is getting a look into the "real life" of the girl.

Independent amateur sites are where I started in this biz back in the late 90's, so I've gotten to know quite a few of them. Many are also swingers, most have kids, and I'd estimate that maybe 1 in 100 have an office and/or studio outside of their home.
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You've left off a few things. There's more needed than just a $500 office. That office will also have to be a studio, complete with assorted furnishings to make it look like a room in a home, not like a sterile photo studio. In order to have more than one "set" you're very quickly getting into an office much larger than you can get for $500 a month, and a considerable cash outlay for furnishings.

A great deal of the charm and appeal of true independent amateur sites is the fact that the surfer/member is getting a look into the "real life" of the girl.

Independent amateur sites are where I started in this biz back in the late 90's, so I've gotten to know quite a few of them. Many are also swingers, most have kids, and I'd estimate that maybe 1 in 100 have an office and/or studio outside of their home.
Running a studio costs about two grand a month. I had a studio for years, so I have a good idea of what it takes to keep it alive. One thing I will say, Toby is that a "studio" can also be a three bedroom apartment downtown with the anonymity that that brings and you are not in a kid type neighbourhood. That also works well because it looks like a residence. It costs a bit to furnish it, but hey, they are just props and can be picked up from yard sales and salvation army stores.
Having said all that, I know rent locations and that gives me the flexibility of having different looks. Costs less, but surprisingly not a lot less, but it does keep things kind of fresh.
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...One thing I will say, Toby is that a "studio" can also be a three bedroom apartment downtown with the anonymity that that brings and you are not in a kid type neighbourhood...
Still too costly for most independent amateurs. With a few notable exceptions, these sites simply aren't generating that kind of income. They're making far more than they could in alot of other jobs, but they're not getting rich. Those days are long gone.
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Very good conversaton.
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It is very easy to over simplify on either side of the issue.

But what if someone really wanted to get into the industry and felt their wife was hot and she was willing. The idea that they would have to put out that much cash for something they can just as easily do in their own home and don't know if it is going to make money with... thats just too much.

By requiring a studio we eliminate the most vibrant and real porn our industry can produce and further narrow the field down to the bigger companies with stock 'exclusive content'.

remember, the only thing they violated here was a zoning regulation and even then there wasn't any charges filed


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You've left off a few things. There's more needed than just a $500 office. That office will also have to be a studio, complete with assorted furnishings to make it look like a room in a home, not like a sterile photo studio. In order to have more than one "set" you're very quickly getting into an office much larger than you can get for $500 a month, and a considerable cash outlay for furnishings.

A great deal of the charm and appeal of true independent amateur sites is the fact that the surfer/member is getting a look into the "real life" of the girl.

Independent amateur sites are where I started in this biz back in the late 90's, so I've gotten to know quite a few of them. Many are also swingers, most have kids, and I'd estimate that maybe 1 in 100 have an office and/or studio outside of their home.
hmm thats odd I could have sworn i started my first cam studio at a 350 a month office and a internet connection with 3 different sets in the office.

Granted that was 99 and rents may have been a bit cheaper but none the less if I could do it any idiot can do it
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Running a studio costs about two grand a month. I had a studio for years, so I have a good idea of what it takes to keep it alive. One thing I will say, Toby is that a "studio" can also be a three bedroom apartment downtown with the anonymity that that brings and you are not in a kid type neighbourhood. That also works well because it looks like a residence. It costs a bit to furnish it, but hey, they are just props and can be picked up from yard sales and salvation army stores.
Having said all that, I know rent locations and that gives me the flexibility of having different looks. Costs less, but surprisingly not a lot less, but it does keep things kind of fresh.
a "studio" can also be a one bedroom apt with a living room kitchen dining room bathroom and BAM u have 4 different sets to shoot in. I did it that was my second and 3rd studios

Change the bg a bit with a few diff pictures different bed spread lampo and BAM u have another set

Im sure u can get a 1 bdrm apt in middle america for under 650 a month.

Go to salvation army and get great stuff for your sets. I did. I started my first cam studio for less then 1500 in sets and equip .
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you can't get a $500 a month office anywhere near here, and I live in a small suburb outside the city

last I checked it was $1400 a month just for the office, add on all the other shit you are talking $2-3k easy....not chump change for a mom and pop cam site
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you can't get a $500 a month office anywhere near here, and I live in a small suburb outside the city

last I checked it was $1400 a month just for the office, add on all the other shit you are talking $2-3k easy....not chump change for a mom and pop cam site

you can get a 500.00 office all over the place down here


400-500 sq ft

and a 650.00 one bedroom apts are a dime a dozen.
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There is one logical solution to renting an office or an apartment.

Use your friends homes when they aren't home. Just be sure to clean up before you leave so they don't know. That includes washing the sheets, if you're a good friend.
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A lot?

I disagree.
I always said you can be stubborn too.

Its ok we are too older dudes making gangster hand signs trying to look younger.

HAHAHAHAHAH
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I always said you can be stubborn too.

Its ok we are too older dudes making gangster ahnd signs trying to look younger.

HAHAHAHAHAH
Yeah, but the teen babes sure go for the shocker. At least I don't have a Grecian Formula bill that's as high as my car payment, like another 'older' guy I'm thinking of.
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you can get a 500.00 office all over the place down here


400-500 sq ft

and a 650.00 one bedroom apts are a dime a dozen.
man, must be nice

I would love a nice little office away from home

there is ONE place I did find like 2 blocks away...but WOW it was a total shit hole, and right next door to a ghetto asian nail/tanning place

the big issue here is that we live right next to a really popular industrial district, some pretty large national companies are based 1 mile from me....so rent has gone up for office space around here in the past few years

I could find a place a little further away, but I just can't bring myself to rent someplace that takes me 10 minutes to drive to when I have a perfectly good office in my house
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There is one logical solution to renting an office or an apartment.

Use your friends homes when they aren't home. Just be sure to clean up before you leave so they don't know. That includes washing the sheets, if you're a good friend.
what if your friends like cummy sheets?

could be a second addon site down the road

fuck in the bed

then film them fucking in your fucking slime
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Yeah, but the teen babes sure go for the shocker. At least my Grecian Formula bill isn't as high as my car payment, like another 'older' guy I'm thinking of.
If I wanted to look 10 years younger Id just go clean cut.

Wait a sec.... I did 6 months ago.
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You don't have kids though, do you, Jace? Or do you just wish you had an office because of zoning issues?
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You don't have kids though, do you, Jace? Or do you just wish you had an office because of zoning issues?
Hed just make pillow farm in it and pile up all day.
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If I wanted to look 10 years younger Id just go clean cut.

Wait a sec.... I did 6 months ago.
I got tired of shaving the goatee and am letting the full beard fill in. It's coming in about 50% grey, but fuck it, it makes me look distinguished. Besides, I know The Legacy doesn't agree, but what's wrong with old guys using the shocker? My wife likes it.
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"By requiring a studio we eliminate the most vibrant and real porn our industry can produce and further narrow the field down to the bigger companies with stock 'exclusive content'."


I disagee entirely. What the heck is "real" porn anyway? The goal and the trick is to suspend disbelief. That is how we make our money. Doesn't matter where you do it. People forget we are in the entertainment business first, porn second. When you get the first half right, the second will come easily and you will prosper. That is guaranteed.
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What the heck is "real" porn anyway? The goal and the trick is to suspend disbelief. That is how we make our money. Doesn't matter where you do it. People forget we are in the entertainment business first, porn second. When you get the first half right, the second will come easily and you will prosper. That is guaranteed.

I believe I spotted a
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I think he's just saying that if the only people that produced porn were the ones that could afford a studio, there would be a lot less porn.

Then, personally, I don't think people with kids have any business starring in porn, but that's just my opinion. It's one thing to work in the business and quite another to be the content. What happens when the kids grow up and their friends show them their mom's porn site? Maybe I'm just old fashioned, but if I'd ever seen pics or videos of my mom having sex... well, I don't even want to think about it.

Even if the family is open with their kids about sex and it doesn't really shock the kids that much to find out, what do they do when their friends at school, who will find it much more amusing and far less normal, start taunting them?
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What the heck is "real" porn anyway? The goal and the trick is to suspend disbelief. That is how we make our money. Doesn't matter where you do it. People forget we are in the entertainment business first, porn second. When you get the first half right, the second will come easily and you will prosper. That is guaranteed.

I believe I spotted a
see when he takes his meds he can be quite lucid

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Then, personally, I don't think people with kids have any business starring in porn, but that's just my opinion. It's one thing to work in the business and quite another to be the content. What happens when the kids grow up and their friends show them their mom's porn site? Maybe I'm just old fashioned, but if I'd ever seen pics or videos of my mom having sex... well, I don't even want to think about it.
most dont think that far ahead i believe

I agree with that statement. When i was doing content I know the last thing that was on my mind was what my future kids (if any) might think if they found it

But then agin I dont have kids
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OK, do you think its going to bother Paris Hilton one little bit that her porn video was one of the most successful ever? I really doubt it.
Personally, I wouldn't run a porn business anywhere near kids. But that is just my opinion and the way I would live had I been a breeder.
However, there are thousands that do it successfully and I wish them no ill will. I think it is their right to earn their living and feed and clothe their kids in whatever way they as parents see fit. (I won't even bother with the whole fucking list of caveats you are expected to post when ever the K word is mentioned, cause we all know that stuff)
Certainly the very last thing the police had a right to do was harrass these poor folks for a by law violation. Personally, I think that is a brilliant civil law suit waiting to happen. And I have a feeling they would slam dunk the local nutbars.
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