Steve Lightspeed is going to save us all

[gonzo]

I wanted to write my first post and try to keep it simple about the case entitled Lightspeed Media Corporation v. John Doe currently pending in the Circuit Court of the Twentieth Judicial Circuit, St. Clair County, Illinois (complaint is embedded below). Don’t let the title deceive you : this is not a lawsuit against a single malicious hacker, but a mere fishing expedition, which has a sole goal to obtain contact information of 6,500 Internet users and start extortion racket. Naming one person and burying hundreds, and (like in this case) thousands, of subscribers in a complaint is one of the new sleazy tactics employed by trolls in order to deceive both courts and public.

Who is Lightspeed Media Corporation?

Pornographer Steve Jones

Lightspeed Media Corporation (LMC) is a pornography enterprise located at 4402 N. Arcadia Drive, Phoenix Arizona 85018 (remember this). It is owned by Steve Jones, a former computer consultant who, along with his wife,

…publishes photos and videos of youthful models, and has long used terms such as “barely legal” and “barely 18″ in its marketing. Users pay between $30 and $40 a month, depending on how many sites they want to access.”

(According to Wall Street Journal.)

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I wanted to write my first post and try to keep it simple about the case entitled Lightspeed Media Corporation v. John Doe currently pending in the Circuit Court of the Twentieth Judicial Circuit, St. Clair County, Illinois (complaint is embedded below). Don’t let the title deceive you : this is not a lawsuit against a single malicious hacker, but a mere fishing expedition, which has a sole goal to obtain contact information of 6,500 Internet users and start extortion racket. Naming one person and burying hundreds, and (like in this case) thousands, of subscribers in a complaint is one of the new sleazy tactics employed by trolls in order to deceive both courts and public.

Who is Lightspeed Media Corporation?

Pornographer Steve Jones

Lightspeed Media Corporation (LMC) is a pornography enterprise located at 4402 N. Arcadia Drive, Phoenix Arizona 85018 (remember this). It is owned by Steve Jones, a former computer consultant who, along with his wife,

…publishes photos and videos of youthful models, and has long used terms such as “barely legal” and “barely 18″ in its marketing. Users pay between $30 and $40 a month, depending on how many sites they want to access.”

(According to Wall Street Journal.)

Read more
I wanted to write my first post and try to keep it simple about the case entitled Lightspeed Media Corporation v. John Doe currently pending in the Circuit Court of the Twentieth Judicial Circuit, St. Clair County, Illinois (complaint is embedded below). Don’t let the title deceive you : this is not a lawsuit against a single malicious hacker, but a mere fishing expedition, which has a sole goal to obtain contact information of 6,500 Internet users and start extortion racket. Naming one person and burying hundreds, and (like in this case) thousands, of subscribers in a complaint is one of the new sleazy tactics employed by trolls in order to deceive both courts and public.

Who is Lightspeed Media Corporation?

Pornographer Steve Jones

Lightspeed Media Corporation (LMC) is a pornography enterprise located at 4402 N. Arcadia Drive, Phoenix Arizona 85018 (remember this). It is owned by Steve Jones, a former computer consultant who, along with his wife,

…publishes photos and videos of youthful models, and has long used terms such as “barely legal” and “barely 18″ in its marketing. Users pay between $30 and $40 a month, depending on how many sites they want to access.”

(According to Wall Street Journal.)

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http://fightcopyrighttrolls.com/2012...e-a-quick-q-a/

[will76]

Originally Posted by gonzo

I wanted to write my first post and try to keep it simple about the case entitled Lightspeed Media Corporation v. John Doe currently pending in the Circuit Court of the Twentieth Judicial Circuit, St. Clair County, Illinois (complaint is embedded below). Don’t let the title deceive you : this is not a lawsuit against a single malicious hacker, but a mere fishing expedition, which has a sole goal to obtain contact information of 6,500 Internet users and start extortion racket. Naming one person and burying hundreds, and (like in this case) thousands, of subscribers in a complaint is one of the new sleazy tactics employed by trolls in order to deceive both courts and public.

Who is Lightspeed Media Corporation?

Pornographer Steve Jones

Lightspeed Media Corporation (LMC) is a pornography enterprise located at 4402 N. Arcadia Drive, Phoenix Arizona 85018 (remember this). It is owned by Steve Jones, a former computer consultant who, along with his wife,

…publishes photos and videos of youthful models, and has long used terms such as “barely legal” and “barely 18″ in its marketing. Users pay between $30 and $40 a month, depending on how many sites they want to access.”

(According to Wall Street Journal.)

read more
I wanted to write my first post and try to keep it simple about the case entitled Lightspeed Media Corporation v. John Doe currently pending in the Circuit Court of the Twentieth Judicial Circuit, St. Clair County, Illinois (complaint is embedded below). Don’t let the title deceive you : this is not a lawsuit against a single malicious hacker, but a mere fishing expedition, which has a sole goal to obtain contact information of 6,500 Internet users and start extortion racket. Naming one person and burying hundreds, and (like in this case) thousands, of subscribers in a complaint is one of the new sleazy tactics employed by trolls in order to deceive both courts and public.

Who is Lightspeed Media Corporation?

Pornographer Steve Jones

Lightspeed Media Corporation (LMC) is a pornography enterprise located at 4402 N. Arcadia Drive, Phoenix Arizona 85018 (remember this). It is owned by Steve Jones, a former computer consultant who, along with his wife,

…publishes photos and videos of youthful models, and has long used terms such as “barely legal” and “barely 18″ in its marketing. Users pay between $30 and $40 a month, depending on how many sites they want to access.”

(According to Wall Street Journal.)

Read more
I wanted to write my first post and try to keep it simple about the case entitled Lightspeed Media Corporation v. John Doe currently pending in the Circuit Court of the Twentieth Judicial Circuit, St. Clair County, Illinois (complaint is embedded below). Don’t let the title deceive you : this is not a lawsuit against a single malicious hacker, but a mere fishing expedition, which has a sole goal to obtain contact information of 6,500 Internet users and start extortion racket. Naming one person and burying hundreds, and (like in this case) thousands, of subscribers in a complaint is one of the new sleazy tactics employed by trolls in order to deceive both courts and public.

Who is Lightspeed Media Corporation?

Pornographer Steve Jones

Lightspeed Media Corporation (LMC) is a pornography enterprise located at 4402 N. Arcadia Drive, Phoenix Arizona 85018 (remember this). It is owned by Steve Jones, a former computer consultant who, along with his wife,

…publishes photos and videos of youthful models, and has long used terms such as “barely legal” and “barely 18″ in its marketing. Users pay between $30 and $40 a month, depending on how many sites they want to access.”

(According to Wall Street Journal.)

Read more
http://fightcopyrighttrolls.com/2012...e-a-quick-q-a/

The Bro Club on GFY is celebrating his victory... or so they seem to think. All that happened recently was the court " denied motions from nine internet service providers to quash subpoenas...". So the case carries on, but he hasn't made a penny yet from it.

I thought password trading sites disappeared in the 90's. Surprised that any of them still exist or that people haven't figured out by now how to protect their member's area from it. Which I'm sure Steve could protect his sites from password traders but what fun would that be, you couldn't sue them then. I find it a little ironic that his sites stopped making sales years ago but yet he is sueing people for lost profits... How long have these passwords been used on these sites? for 5 years? probably been that long since someone new has signed up to one of his sites.

I also read the article on Ynot where "plaintiff" Steve Lightspeed. I hope he used his real name at least in the lawsuit.

If you can't make money from sueing file sharing sites try going after password trading sites. What's next, he is going to park his car in the hood and leave the keys in it and then sue the nig that steals it ??

Breaking News!! Steve Lightspeed spills a carton of milk in Walmart then slips on it, sues Walmart for lost sales because he is unable to recruit college girls to do porn shoots.

[softball]

Personally, I am all for it. If he can get it, good luck to him. Anything that puts the fear of God into thieves works for me. In the "real world" of crime, the consumer is as guilty as the supplier. You buy a hot camera, get caught, you pay the price. If you can't do the time, don't do the crime.

[will76]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

Personally, I am all for it. If he can get it, good luck to him. Anything that puts the fear of God into thieves works for me. In the "real world" of crime, the consumer is as guilty as the supplier. You buy a hot camera, get caught, you pay the price. If you can't do the time, don't do the crime.

This is just simply a desperate guy reaching hard to try make a few bucks out of threatening to expose people for looking at porn. When is the last time that password trading sites were even relivant or had passwords that actually worked, 10 years ago?

I hate theives too, but password trading sites??? It is so easy to block people from being able to do it. I'm all on board for the content theft because that is something that is damn near impossible to prevent. But this is just Steve's way to legally send out 1,000's of letters saying " if you don't pay $x,xxx I am going to sue you and make it public record that you like watching barely legally naked girls" etc. The guy can't make money selling memberships anymore so he is going to use the sites as bait to make people pay to keep their perversions secrete.

[softball]

Originally Posted by will76

This is just simply a desperate guy reaching hard to try make a few bucks out of threatening to expose people for looking at porn. When is the last time that password trading sites were even relivant or had passwords that actually worked, 10 years ago?

I hate theives too, but password trading sites??? It is so easy to block people from being able to do it. I'm all on board for the content theft because that is something that is damn near impossible to prevent. But this is just Steve's way to legally send out 1,000's of letters saying " if you don't pay $x,xxx I am going to sue you and make it public record that you like watching barely legally naked girls" etc. The guy can't make money selling memberships anymore so he is going to use the sites as bait to make people pay to keep their perversions secrete.

Lots of people can't make money due to various kinds of theft... and those thieves deserve what they get. Sure its a plan to regain lost profit and even then some. But its a plan that I support. Why would you not?

[Toby]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

Why would you not?

Because the only "proof" he has is an IP address in a log file. Multiple courts have already ruled that IP alone isn't sufficient to identify a specific person. The person paying for the Internet access associated with that IP address is not necessarily the person that used a "stolen" password to access his sites.

If he can't identify the specific person then how can he seek damages? He has no intention of taking any of these cases to court, he's hoping most will settle just to avoid the stigma of being publicly accused of accessing porn. Imagine a parent of teen boys who has friends over after school. One of the friends shows the rest a site he has "found" a pass for. Boys will be boys. BUT... what if that parent happens to be a school teacher? What will they do if they receive such a letter? They could potentially lose their job.

This isn't justice, it's porn blackmail.

[softball]

Originally Posted by Toby

Because the only "proof" he has is an IP address in a log file. Multiple courts have already ruled that IP alone isn't sufficient to identify a specific person. The person paying for the Internet access associated with that IP address is not necessarily the person that used a "stolen" password to access his sites.

If he can't identify the specific person then how can he seek damages? He has no intention of taking any of these cases to court, he's hoping most will settle just to avoid the stigma of being publicly accused of accessing porn. Imagine a parent of teen boys who has friends over after school. One of the friends shows the rest a site he has "found" a pass for. Boys will be boys. BUT... what if that parent happens to be a school teacher? What will they do if they receive such a letter? They could potentially lose their job.

This isn't justice, it's porn blackmail.

Its kinda like a just war. There are casualties, unintended consequences, friendly fire, but at the end of the day, the result justifies the means. Anything that rattles the cages of thieves works for me.
The "system" has done nothing to protect intellectual property. In fact the DMCA has encouraged theft of copyright. Its time to fight back. Like him or not and possibly his motives are not altruistic, but at least he is doing something and I, for one, am not going to support those involved in theft in anyway. I stand firmly on the side of those in our business who at least make an attempt to fight back.

[Toby]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

Its kinda like a just war. There are casualties, unintended consequences, friendly fire, but at the end of the day, the result justifies the means. Anything that rattles the cages of thieves works for me.

Might work for you, but allowing the punishment of innocents is not the standard of justice that I'm comfortable with.

Originally Posted by rhetorical

The "system" has done nothing to protect intellectual property. In fact the DMCA has encouraged theft of copyright. Its time to fight back. Like him or not and possibly his motives are not altruistic, but at least he is doing something and I, for one, am not going to support those involved in theft in anyway. I stand firmly on the side of those in our business who at least make an attempt to fight back.

If he had to actually win each of these 6500 cases in court I'd agree with you, but he'd never be able to prove enough in damages to even cover his legal fees, IF he didn't get tossed on the IP issue before even getting to court. It's a desperate attempt to extract some income from a dead/dying porn network.

[will76]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

Lots of people can't make money due to various kinds of theft... and those thieves deserve what they get. Sure its a plan to regain lost profit and even then some. But its a plan that I support. Why would you not?

For the same reason I don't go into a grocery store, spill milk on the floor then walk through it slip and sue the store for not having a "Caution wet floor" sign out.

He didn't lose any profits from those password sites. Hell I bet if they dig deep enough he was the one who put the passwords on those sites, waited for people to use them, then sued them. It is soooo easy to protect your site from password trading, why not take the 10 minutes to protect the site ??? Oh that's right you can't sue people for doing it, if you actually protected your site from it.

Originally Posted by Toby

This isn't justice, it's porn blackmail.

In this case I think "Entrapment" is best way to describe this.

[will76]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

Its kinda like a just war. There are casualties, unintended consequences, friendly fire, but at the end of the day, the result justifies the means. Anything that rattles the cages of thieves works for me.
The "system" has done nothing to protect intellectual property. In fact the DMCA has encouraged theft of copyright. Its time to fight back. Like him or not and possibly his motives are not altruistic, but at least he is doing something and I, for one, am not going to support those involved in theft in anyway. I stand firmly on the side of those in our business who at least make an attempt to fight back.

You blurring password trading and stolen content together. Password trading sites aren't a threat to the industry. Steve isn't fighting back, there is no "war" against password trading sites, they have been irrelevant for YEARS. Only thing happening here is someone trying to make a quick buck from suing porn surfers.

For stolen content, yes I agree. IP address is all we have to go on, however the person suing should have to prove beyond a doubt that the person they suing was the one who actually downloaded the stolen content. If I live in an apartment with roommates for example and one of them did it and the bill was in my name, I would be pissed. And that is just one example of many how the person who's name the service is in might not have been the person watching the video.

But for password trading? People blocked that from happening in the 90's, all this is now is just a desperate attempt to threaten to expose people's porn surfing habits if they don't pay up. Sad.

What next, remove the password protection from your member's area and post the link everywhere. When people go to enter pop up a box that says " do not trespass, you are not allowed to enter without paying" then turn around and sue those people if they enter? Sad, Sad, Sad. Im all for supporting the right thing and a good fight, but this is worst than ambulance chasing or people who slam on their breaks so someone will run into the back of them so they can sue.

I hope they sue the wrong person who fights back and this blows up in their face. I think it would be real easy to make a defense that it was soooo easy for Steve to prevent this that negligence was on his end and by doing nothing he allowed it to happen or in this case wanted it to so he could sue.

[Hell Puppy]

Piracy is a problem, but it is not THE problem. We've had people stealing our content from day one.

There's a certain amount of people out there who aren't going to pay for porn no matter what you do. There are also people who are going to not only rip you off but they're going to share with their friends. These people are not significantly impacting anyone's income, they've always been here even during the days where money was falling from the sky.

No sir...the problem is what has happened to that segment of people who WILL pay for porn. Or I should say WERE willing to pay for porn.

The industry has conditioned them to not pay. If they DO whip out that credit card, the vast majority of companies left standing will milk that card for every penny they can ring out of it.

Now when these guys do discover what's being shared for free, they're gone forever. The content I can find right now with simple searches of videos or images on google is superior to what 90% of the card slamming paysites deliver.

And why is it feasible for all of that movie content to be delivered for free? It's made possible by the money from the same people who slam cards.

An honest business that wants to exist with clean hands outside of that entire mess has to operate in what is probably a 5% or less crack in the business. That crack is where you'll find people producing good honest original targeted content, delivering it at a fair price exactly as advertised. And they are increasingly having to contain themselves to underserved niches that thieves do not understand and bust their ass to find the users seeking it out and earning their trust.

[RawAlex]

Will, you almost have it, but you are barking up the wrong tree at least a bit.

The porn business isn't about porn anymore. Porn now online is on par with the roller skate girls in the short skirts at the 50s or 60s drive in restaurant - the titillation that gets you to the store, not the product. There weren't selling ass, they were selling food. Realistically we aren't sell porn anymore, we are selling OTHER stuff.

The common other stuff these days is dating and cams, but even that is pretty worn down, and with sites like chaturbate, are starting to show their own trend towards "give it away" to sell something else.

Porn generates a ton of traffic. Getting that traffic to filter down and be able to sell it off is key these days, it's not about selling porn anymore.

The real trick of Manwin or any other porn company isn't what they do in porn, it's what they do outside of porn that will really make them go.

[will76]

Originally Posted by RawAlex

Will, you almost have it, but you are barking up the wrong tree at least a bit.

The porn business isn't about porn anymore. Porn now online is on par with the roller skate girls in the short skirts at the 50s or 60s drive in restaurant - the titillation that gets you to the store, not the product. There weren't selling ass, they were selling food. Realistically we aren't sell porn anymore, we are selling OTHER stuff.

The common other stuff these days is dating and cams, but even that is pretty worn down, and with sites like chaturbate, are starting to show their own trend towards "give it away" to sell something else.

Porn generates a ton of traffic. Getting that traffic to filter down and be able to sell it off is key these days, it's not about selling porn anymore.

The real trick of Manwin or any other porn company isn't what they do in porn, it's what they do outside of porn that will really make them go.

It's obvious Steve can't make money anymore from selling memberships so he changed his business plan to sue as many people as he can. I understand that completely. Just pointing out how much of a douchebag he is and that most of the bros actually think he is "fighting for the industry" and doing something good. And that he has won, when he hasn't even seen a penny yet.

On a side note cams and dating still do pretty well, at least for me they do. It's not 1999 but its no where near as bad as membership sites.

What does Manwin do out side of porn? are you eluding to them washing money, or do they have some offline business I am not aware of ?

[EmporerEJ]

I just wanna get me one of those "lightspeed" baseball shirts with the snazzy numbers on it, that he always wore to the conventions.....

[bxy]

If the liquor store is robbed and they get your license plate number, guess where the cops are coming. Did it matter that your nephew borrowed your car and never told you? Did it matter that his friend convinced your nephew to take your car so that they could score some booze? Did it matter that your nephew didn't even know his friend / acquaintance robbed the liquor store? No, none of that mattered, your license plate, their coming for you. They do have to start somewhere to get to the truth. Unfortunately, they're often too lazy to get to the truth; and this scenario translated to internet and porn happens a lot more frequently.Cops like it simple, your license plate your crime, your ip your crime.

[pornkook]

Lightspeed is da bomb

[EmporerEJ]

I want my shirt....(and my donuts...)

[Toby]

Originally Posted by EmporerEJ

I want my shirt....(and my donuts...)

The Lightspeed "empire" is up for sale. I'm sure that if you buy it you can get a shirt thrown in on the deal.

[Hell Puppy]

I have a crisp $20 bill.

[softball]

Hell, I have a brand spanking new plastic Canadian hundred. Wanna arm wrestle?

[Hell Puppy]

I'm out. $20 is my best offer.

Maybe he can go to Vegas and sell it on Pawn Stars. But I doubt Old Man will pay $20. So the plastic loonies probably takes it.