WTF is up with Peaches????

[Peaches]

Originally Posted by Rcourt64

Where is the Medical Pro Lady anyway? is it true she a pug junkie lover?
Cause pugs love her back: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqcrfTzV54A

& this is what happens when u mix pugs & blenders...
"No it's not what you think"....Don't be cynical !!! "
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9l19D2sIHI

Pugs were bred purely for humor!

However, the puppy is chewing up all my furniture. Good thing I'd already decided to sell it with the house.

[sudden]

Originally Posted by gonzo

Oprano is just a breeding ground for additional marketing.

Im not retired. I dont spam for a living and Im not out to earn your business.

I have to work for a living.

Maybe if you had been spamming you could've retired instead of working for almost nothing

[softball]

Originally Posted by Peaches

Pugs were bred purely for humor!

However, the puppy is chewing up all my furniture. Good thing I'd already decided to sell it with the house.

Damn that is heartless. I would never sell my puppy just because it chewed furniture. I would train it like any sensible person would do.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by sudden

Maybe if you had been spamming you could've retired instead of working for almost nothing

True dat! Of course my mainstream work wasnt too shabby making 6 figures working 9-5 in a white collar job.

However I have had my brush with spam by providing hosting spammers for 6 months.The worst 6 months of my life. Your always left high and dry in the end.

They always dont pay that massive final bill AFTER theyve burned at least 3 of your upstream providers.

In the end... I sleep well at night not concerned about being arrested or jailed...I can travel anywhere I want...cross any boarder and Im not on Interpol's wanted list.

[sudden]

Originally Posted by gonzo

In the end... I sleep well at night not concerned about being arrested or jailed...I can travel anywhere I want...cross any boarder and Im not on Interpol's wanted list.

Things that can all be solved easily if you have the amount of money you'd have made from Spam

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by sudden

Things that can all be solved easily if you have the amount of money you'd have made from Spam

Many a program was launched with that income.

Im too honest and ethical for my own good.

[Peaches]

Originally Posted by gonzo

However I have had my brush with spam by providing hosting spammers for 6 months.The worst 6 months of my life. Your always left high and dry in the end.

They always dont pay that massive final bill AFTER theyve burned at least 3 of your upstream providers.

So you actually made money (or at least attempted to) off spam too.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by Peaches

So you actually made money (or at least attempted to) off spam too.

Ive never said that I didnt.
And in the end. No... it was a major loss.

[Peaches]

Originally Posted by gonzo

Ive never said that I didnt.
And in the end. No... it was a major loss.

So...would you sleep better if you had made millions hosting spam?

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by Peaches

So...would you sleep better if you had made millions hosting spam?

Probably not.

We got a small taste of the heat it brings.

[Peaches]

Originally Posted by gonzo

Probably not.

We got a small taste of the heat it brings.

I could sleep easy with a few mill in my mattress. If the heat came, I'd sic the furniture eating pugs after them or I'd hang out with my bud's in Panama

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by Peaches

I could sleep easy with a few mill in my mattress. If the heat came, I'd sic the furniture eating pugs after them or I'd hang out with my bud's in Panama

Different set of values I suppose.
Im beginning to think that you want to keep money in a matress though.
Banks are all about the homeland security

[Peaches]

Originally Posted by gonzo

Different set of values I suppose.
Im beginning to think that you want to keep money in a matress though.
Banks are all about the homeland security

Hard to completely avoid banks. Even legitmate cash real estate deals aren't really "cash" - there's still a check and an attorney involved. I have to deal with the banks no matter what. I just make sure I keep the higher amounts in the higher paying MM's and spread the love around. And have at least a months worth of living expenses IN CASH. But not in the mattress

[sudden]

Originally Posted by gonzo

Many a program was launched with that income.

Im too honest and ethical for my own good.

What was that quote someone keeps around here? Wasn't it something like "ethics are a bad excuse to rationalize failure"?

[Hell Puppy]

Originally Posted by sudden

What was that quote someone keeps around here? Wasn't it something like "ethics are a bad excuse to rationalize failure"?

Only the truly weak make the conscious decision to compromise their ethics for mere monetary gain.

But I guess by the token of those who live by the quote to which you refer Ken Lay, Bernie Ebbers, et al are successful and the companies who do not cook the books are failures.

[softball]

Originally Posted by Hell Puppy

Only the truly weak make the conscious decision to compromise their ethics for mere monetary gain.

But I guess by the token of those who live by the quote to which you refer Ken Lay, Bernie Ebbers, et al are successful and the companies who do not cook the books are failures.

Serge comes to mind. All he has is money but can't buy success to save his life.

[Rcourt64]

Originally Posted by Hell Puppy

Only the truly weak make the conscious decision to compromise their ethics for mere monetary gain.

Compromising their Ethics????
"uhmm, and who's s supposedly is setting the moral standards here??? "

just curious bro?

[softball]

Originally Posted by Rcourt64

Compromising their Ethics????
"uhmm, and who's s supposedly is setting the moral standards here??? "

just curious bro?

It is nothing to do with moral standards. It is to do with class.

[softball]

Something that is in short supply in our business. I don't care if you drive an Escalade. You know how you got it. Hell, I could sell coke and make the same dough, but why would I? Fuck the rats in this business. Kind of like Joe Kennedy and look what happened to that family. Absolutely no respect. OK, I know jack was a good guy, but a first among rats.

[Hell Puppy]

Originally Posted by Rcourt64

Compromising their Ethics????
"uhmm, and who's s supposedly is setting the moral standards here??? "

just curious bro?

Dont confuse morality with ethics.

Views surrounding nudity, sex, etc vary from region to region, country to country, religion to religion.

However, a basic sense of right and wrong regarding things like thievery, deception are pretty universally accepted across humanity.

[softball]

"However, a basic sense of right and wrong regarding things like thievery, deception are pretty universally accepted across humanity."

Not in old school porn.
edit. because I don't need the aggravation of a freeking lawsuit for speaking the truth.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

"However, a basic sense of right and wrong regarding things like thievery, deception are pretty universally accepted across humanity."

Not in old school porn.
edit. because I don't need the aggravation of a freeking lawsuit for speaking the truth.

The truth is the best defense for libel.

[softball]

Originally Posted by gonzo

The truth is the best defense for libel.

Yeah, but why do I need to even defend it. I am going to Mexico tomorrow for a little r and r. I have no need of litigation to prove a point. I know I am right. The cocksuckers all have lawyers and I really don't need the agro.

[Bobby Love]

Truth is absolute protection from libel, but your point is well taken concerning lawyers.

[Peaches]

Originally Posted by Hell Puppy

Dont confuse morality with ethics.

Views surrounding nudity, sex, etc vary from region to region, country to country, religion to religion.

However, a basic sense of right and wrong regarding things like thievery, deception are pretty universally accepted across humanity.

So it's "wrong" to spam but "right" to make money off hosting the spammers?

Sorry, but especially in this biz, spamming just ain't up there with unethical or immoral to me.

As far as universally accepted across humanity, I can pretty much guarantee you most people would choose a spammer over a pornographer to have into their home.

[sudden]

Originally Posted by Hell Puppy

Only the truly weak make the conscious decision to compromise their ethics for mere monetary gain.

But I guess by the token of those who live by the quote to which you refer Ken Lay, Bernie Ebbers, et al are successful and the companies who do not cook the books are failures.

There are degrees of ethics. You dont need to keep the same ethics as the worst, but you sure as hell can't be an angel to make it in any business.

[Hell Puppy]

Originally Posted by Peaches

So it's "wrong" to spam but "right" to make money off hosting the spammers?

Sorry, but especially in this biz, spamming just ain't up there with unethical or immoral to me.

As far as universally accepted across humanity, I can pretty much guarantee you most people would choose a spammer over a pornographer to have into their home.

Where did I list spamming as a specific behavior as either ethical or unethical?

[Hell Puppy]

Originally Posted by sudden

There are degrees of ethics. You dont need to keep the same ethics as the worst, but you sure as hell can't be an angel to make it in any business.

You can be tough and strong to the point of being ruthless and still have ethics.

Wal-mart is a good example. They're brutal with suppliers, vendors and competitors alike. Many people eve argue they are bad for communities. But can you really point to anything they do that is unethical?

[Hell Puppy]

To quote Omar: "A man's gotta have a code."

[sudden]

Originally Posted by Hell Puppy

You can be tough and strong to the point of being ruthless and still have ethics.

Wal-mart is a good example. They're brutal with suppliers, vendors and competitors alike. Many people eve argue they are bad for communities. But can you really point to anything they do that is unethical?

Is what Microsoft does unethical? Handing over money to one company in order to eradicate another, buying up the competition as soon as they become a threat etc?

In both the case of Wal-mart and Microsoft, what they're doing may not be nice, but it's not unethical.

[Peaches]

Originally Posted by Hell Puppy

Where did I list spamming as a specific behavior as either ethical or unethical?

Sorry, it seems like Gonzo was doing that and since spamming was what we were talking about, I ASSumed you were referring to it also. Sometimes the lines between the two of you blur. What WERE you referring to since the rest of us were talking about spamming?

[justb]

this is turning into a rice cooker thread ; )

Happy Thanksgiving Peaches

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by justb

this is turning into a rice cooker thread ; )

Happy Thanksgiving Peaches

I bought a slow cooker last week. I havent tested it out yet.

[Peaches]

Originally Posted by justb

this is turning into a rice cooker thread ; )

Happy Thanksgiving Peaches

LOL!!! You too, R

[Hell Puppy]

Originally Posted by Peaches

Sorry, it seems like Gonzo was doing that and since spamming was what we were talking about, I ASSumed you were referring to it also. Sometimes the lines between the two of you blur. What WERE you referring to since the rest of us were talking about spamming?

I wasn't referring to anything in particular.

All the ethics stuff started with the Zango threads though, I'd definitely consider anything like malware to be unethical. It alters a person's computer without their permission, makes it do things they dont want it to do and inhibits it's ability to perform as that person would reasonably expect. It serves no purpose or provides no value to the consumer of the product other than to make a dollar for the "advertiser" who installed it.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by Hell Puppy

I wasn't referring to anything in particular.

All the ethics stuff started with the Zango threads though, I'd definitely consider anything like malware to be unethical. It alters a person's computer without their permission, makes it do things they dont want it to do and inhibits it's ability to perform as that person would reasonably expect. It serves no purpose or provides no value to the consumer of the product other than to make a dollar for the "advertiser" who installed it.

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