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Old 04-23-2003   #1
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SWOIT!! http://www.swoit.com

I've recently started working with a new product that I personally think is one of the best systems to enter the industry in a long time. The system offers unique income streams for both paysite owners and webmasters with traffic, including rare niches like bi & shemales etc.

With the changes in cc processing many smaller programs or individual sites are having difficulty in maintaining profitability, and we've had many discussions here about the amount of free porn and why would anyone want to sign up to a paysite anymore. Add to that free password sites and surfers who have already learnt how to 'work the trial' to avoid paying and we have an industry that is moving quickly towards another uncertain change period where paysites are suffering more than ever.

This system combines the best features of avs and paysite programs, while giving every person who is involved the ability to earn revenue.

The quick summary ... plug in your paysite members area to the swoit system and you get paid $$ when Swoit members surf your site - the better your paysite content, the more people who will surf it ... the swoit members area has a bunch of cool features, and access to a directory of paysite members areas ... all searchable by keyword. You can list keywords when you set up your site so if you have a rare niche, you will probably be the only site in that category and attract a lot of swoit members to your site ...

affiliates can promote the site, and can advertise any of the niches which are included in the members area .... stuff like shemales, bisexual (mmf & ffm), 4women, cheerleaders etc ... $15 recurring per month payout so with this much content, the site should retain well. a lot of paysite regular subscribers have signed up so far with very few cancellations in the test period ...

Surfers are tight-asses and don't want to spend their hard earned $$ on porn when they can get so much of it for free. Nobody WANTS to pay $30 or $40 or $50 per month for the same members area they get everywhere else ... we've evolved through the changes in the past and this year is no exception. this system allows you to basically run an entire paysite by doing nothing but running a good members area ... back to the days of K.I.S.S.!!

If this takes off, you'll regret not getting in quick!

Official announcement below ...

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You are cordially invited to join us for the worldwide launch of Swoit.com - the change the adult industry has been waiting for.

Swoit.com offers web surfers unlimited access to HUNDREDS of real live Internet adult paysites with just one subscription! And we're not talking about AVS sites or paysites you've never heard of before, we already have dozens of big name paysites participating, with niches like Bisexual, Shemales, Fetish, Anal, Plumpers and a featured women's section provided by Purve.com

We're also adding new paysites to Swoit every day, because we offer paysite owners a massive financial incentive to do so (see below for details).

Make more money with Swoit than you could ever make with any per-signup program

* Webmasters, earn $15 per signup AND recurring for all your signups!
* Retentions that are out of this world
* Members can search for sites in easy to navigate categories
* Paysite owners, add your members areas and earn $$$
* Promote big name paysites with 100's of niches, all in 1 subscription

AFFILIATES
Swoit works by paying affiliates a 50% recurring commission on a monthly subscription to Swoit.com. That's $15.00 for every signup you send plus $15 recurring per signup forever. We believe Swoit.com will be the first ever revshare program to truly offer webmasters a compelling reason to switch away from regular per-signup programs, because of our superior membership retentions and extremely high payouts. Because we are adding new paysites every day, and the paysites that are already within Swoit are being constantly updated by their owners, we expect many members to make Swoit.com the only adult paysite they ever need to join. For affiliates, these massive retentions means massive dollars in their pockets.

In fact, a member only has to stay with Swoit.com for 2 rebills (31 days) and you've already made $30 income, the same as most per signup programs these days. However we anticipate membership retentions to far exceed that -- imagine if your member stayed 10 months, that's 10 x $15 or $150 per signup!

PAYSITE OWNERS
Webmasters who own and operate their own paysites (big or small) can partner with Swoit and make their paysites available to Swoit.com members. We accept all legitimate paysites ranging from the biggest MEGA sites, to the small owner-operated amateur or CAM sites because good variety will ensure excellent member retention. All sites are checked and approved by an examiner before they become available to members, so members can expect an excellent selection of sites of a very high quality.

As a payment to partners, Swoit distributes an enormous 40% of its ENTIRE MONTHLY REBILLINGS to it's partners. With an aggressive 3 month forecast of 100,000 members, that's over $1.35 million dollars PER MONTH we will be paying to our partners. The exact distribution will be determined by usage per site -- ie. the more time Swoit members spend at your site, the more the site owner gets paid.

If you have a unique members area or cover a rare niche, your site will attract more of our members for longer, and earn you extra money for doing nothing more than subscribing it to Swoit!

Create an account instantly at http://www.swoit.com and start earning big bucks!!

* HIGHER RETENTIONS
* HIGHER PAYOUTS
* HIGHER PROFITS

.. now that's Swoit!


Don't miss out - for more information, visit the 'webmasters' section at:
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CJ looks like an amazing idea, that if takes off would revolutionize the industry....


When I get back home, I will over it closely and get with you....

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I agree Mike, and for all of those amateur sites you run and cam girls etc, its a great way to add an income stream without losing anything from the sites themselves ...

I'm around for questions ;-)
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"To combat Fraud, Swoit implements a mathematical algorithm which discards abnormal user sessions which fall outside of two standard deviations either side of the mean for that site. As this check is performed against all sites, it will not adversely affect your overall percentage."

So basically, its a global skim. I dont mind a skim to combat fraud. But how do you calculate the two standard deviations on either side of the mean? If one surfer logs into my paysite and sucks every video I got and spends all night on it thats gonna be an outliar thats gonna get skimmed right? Meaning the 1 guy that sucked all my bandwidth I'm not gonna get paid on.

"Distribution to partners is calculated per site daily with the following formula:
(total minutes for site today from all valid sessions / total minutes for all sites today) * 40% of global daily rebill amount)"

So if 10 surfers suck all my bandwidth for 24 hours but 100 surfers suck a bigger sites bandwidth for the same 24 hours, Im gonna get the shit end of the stick and still eat the bandwidth?

I have some niche sites that would fit in if these two things in your rules worked differently.
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What is a good email to contact someone from swoit at?

We have a few paysites that might work well with this model.
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CJ - looks like an interesting idea
Give me a day or two to wrap my mind around the concept and I'm sure I'll have some questions for you
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Eric, Contact email: partners@swoit.com

Darin, good question ;-)
and thanks for pointing out something that wasn't written clearly enough in our explanation. the system offers so much and has many potential areas for questions that we've had trouble thinking of them all in advance.


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"To combat Fraud, Swoit implements a mathematical algorithm which discards abnormal user sessions which fall outside of two standard deviations either side of the mean for that site. As this check is performed against all sites, it will not adversely affect your overall percentage."

So basically, its a global skim. I dont mind a skim to combat fraud. But how do you calculate the two standard deviations on either side of the mean? If one surfer logs into my paysite and sucks every video I got and spends all night on it thats gonna be an outliar thats gonna get skimmed right? Meaning the 1 guy that sucked all my bandwidth I'm not gonna get paid on.
The quickest way to clarify is to point out that the mean and standard deviation is not calculated based on the overall mean of other sites, its based entirely on your own members area - so the 'mean' and 'standard deviation' is only relevant to your sites.

Mathematically, all of the 'sessions' will fall within 2 standard deviations of your own mean, so you aren't going to lose out in the situation you outlined above, except that the surfer who sucks all of your bandwidth probably won't fall inside the standard deviation from your mean - which is created as an average of all of your sessions.

We will be watching closely for both surfer and webmaster fraud and in this case we would be looking for evidence of whether a) you are trying to cheat us or the surfer trying to cheat you. Your mean would have to be pretty low for you to lose out on this situation, and we will be taking all of these factors into account should a situation arise where you are being 'bandwidth sucked' ...


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"Distribution to partners is calculated per site daily with the following formula:
(total minutes for site today from all valid sessions / total minutes for all sites today) * 40% of global daily rebill amount)"

So if 10 surfers suck all my bandwidth for 24 hours but 100 surfers suck a bigger sites bandwidth for the same 24 hours, Im gonna get the shit end of the stick and still eat the bandwidth?
Partly the info above answers this, but in addition ... no 2 sites can be open at once, so the surfer is either at your site or at someone else's ... you are either being paid for a surfer being at your site or you are not being paid. So if someone is surfing your site for the entire 24 hours, that's a lot of minutes that only YOU can be earning money on ... or a surfer may browse your site for an hour and another bigger site for 2 hours but you still get paid for an hour ...

As with every new product there is going to be a learning curve on how to best maximize the system to your own advantage. The biggest, most unique, rare, niche etc sites will probably make the most money ... but maybe not! Along the way we will be providing heaps of tips based on the information we learn as we go ...
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You might wanna read this thread. It aint lookin good.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.p...50&pagenumber=1
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Hi CJ,

Very interesting. A lot of details in that release.

Can you tell me, as a webmaster who runs a dozen+ paysites, affiliate program, standard members areas with loads of plugin content - how will swoit.com work for me?

Does it work in with what I'm currently doing?
Can you give a hypothetical example of how it could work in my situation.

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Darin, what do you expect, its GFY.

They are too concerned about jumping on the anti spam bandwagon and patting each other on the back for good 1 liners than taking advantage of a product that could bring them additional revenue. This is business, bulk email advertising is part of it.

*shrug*

more cheating webmasters come from gfy than any other location, so its a bit of a case of the pot calling the kettle black! a webmaster program can't bulk email, but a webmaster can tell a surfer to sign up and cancel and that's ok? its up to you if you want to allow your mind to be warped to GFY mentality.

that's why my GFY post count is still in single figures ... i'm doing ok without their business ;-)


Meatloaf,
you set up a basic cgi script to add a swoit temp password to your htaccess file each time a user visits your site from the swoit members area, as you have multiple front ends with 1 members area (did i interpret this correctly?) you would simply add that big members area to swoit ...
you are then paid for minutes that our members spend surfing your members area ...

There is no change in your current system except that you add our usernames to allow the surfer access ...
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CJ,
I read over the site and maybe I'm blind,
but I couldn't see when you pay your partners for site usage.

It says at the end of the month the amount is calculated,
but when do the payments go out?
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Gday CJ

Simple question please

Who owns Swoit.com?

Thanks
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Looks like you made quite an impression on GFY



http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?s...threadid=127465

http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?s...threadid=127464

http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?s...threadid=127447

http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?s...threadid=127436
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opps missed 1

http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?s...threadid=127484
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Gday CJ

Simple question please

Who owns Swoit.com?

Thanks
Daniel
Hi Daniel,

You have probably never heard of the company who runs this, they have been a behind the scenes technical developer since 1997.

This is one of their first moves into running a program of their own
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CJ,
I read over the site and maybe I'm blind,
but I couldn't see when you pay your partners for site usage.

It says at the end of the month the amount is calculated,
but when do the payments go out?
hiya el-pres

7 days after end of pay period ...
so 1st & 15th .payouts are processed and payments sent on 8th and 23rd

you aren't blind, extra point being added to site now ;-)
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opps missed 1

http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?s...threadid=127484
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Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
i guess i should expect an email too
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Holy crap man, I NEVER got as much spam in my mailbox as I did today, guess from who?
A gazillion emails really.
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just 1 of over 150+ posts talking about your mailing abilities

get Nick to mail for you next time

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They hit me Seven (7) times, to both my old and newer emails

That is one hell of a list they have

Makes you wonder doesnt it


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I had nothing to do with the email, but the list is for sale if you can afford it ... you could only hope to have received as many webmasters signups in 10 hours as this has gotten.

but save trying to drag me into a piss match, i've addressed it already

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As for the bulk email, I agree with ya'all there ... I just found out where they bought the list from and I can see why so many of you got multiple copies. But, I only got 3, that I had to search for amongst the weight loss and penis enlargement spams.

Considering everyone in this thread has said nothing but negative comments about the bulk email, there have been a lot of signups in the last few hours and i see many names from this thread in the new account list ...

I'm not going to argue the spam issue, I hate spam of every kind and its a result of many arguments with my Aussie associates. I can't wait for another Paul Vixie to come back and fuck the spammers again. But that's a personal thing, not a business thing ;-)
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look and learn forest, its about results, not how many nice things people are saying about you.

but its no secret you are about the hype, you are the master of that!


the difference is that I have good products to back it up
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you get an A for product

and an F for delivery

and as far as mailing the list doesnt matter if it was you or not

your their front person no?

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btw

dont defend yourself here to me

I dont care Im not sending traffic

talk to your potential customer base
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your their front person no?

no

just helping out with the launch!


i'm sure swoit will get by fine without your traffic, but thanks for the really helpful marketing advice
i hope to one day be like you!
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[i hope to one day be like you!
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no one in their right mind wants to be like me

your worrying me now

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but its no secret you are about the hype, you are the master of that!


did you just call him a...MASTER?????

damn,
you just promoted him!

he is NOT a master yet!!!!

darn,
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that 1 works for me
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Mutt, how could I guess that you would have a problem with this? You are one of the regular names that comes up in threads where the australians are being grouped together and trashed. I've got a few questions for you ...

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you will be able to give cj first hand knowlegde of my cooking skills

with pictures even

i do trust serge's food judgement ;-)

are you catering the next oprano dinner?!
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Simple question for us all....

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If I were a surfer, this is what I would join. What more can one say?

CJ,

You have a great knack for being in hot places at the right time. Good luck with the launch.

And .. Should we give FOREST a report card?
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serge

you will be able to give cj first hand knowlegde of my cooking skills

with pictures even

Forest,
are you sure the world is ready for MORE of your pics????

you give a hard on to the 1/2 of this board!
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And .. Should we give FOREST a report card?
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i do trust serge's food judgement ;-)

in food we trust!
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what are the chances of getting Forest nad cj in the same kitchen???

THAT could have been SOMETHING!
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as long as she brings something to the "Table"

Im game

cjh, are you game????

You know what's going on "at the table"!!!!
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the company is a technical company that's been around since 97
you wouldn't know the company's name as they haven't had much to do with this side of the biz.

they had pennywize a few years ago, and have done the tech backends for a bunch of programs, including sexhit, and intergal since day 1.

sorry i can't provide home addresses and social security numbers ...
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cj, Naughty,
how are we doing bringing DICKS in yet another business discussion?????
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I think my problem is I was getting spammed to my MAINSTREAM addresses.. addresses that aren't posted ANYWHERE on any of my adult sites.. That and umm.. email addresses that shouldn't even be anywhere REMOTELY involved in the adult business were spammed. What if my kid was online and got a lovely SWOIT spam in his email box? I would have been SUPREMELY pissed. There wasn't really any rhyme or reason to the way they spammed.. the least they could have done is check their lists. I don't know who Swoit is, nor do I particularly care, however I DO NOT APPRECIATE the amount of unsolicited spam to email addresses that have NOTHING TO DO WITH THE BUSINESS. Grr. THAT chaps my ass.
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HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHA
first you are trashing my marketing then you pick a kitchen challenge?!?!? LOL

i'll bring something to the table if you promise to keep your dick in your pants the entire evening!

YOU TOO SERGE!!!

hmmm...now you are asking the almost impossible...
what about MikeW?

May Sue wear strap on?

Geeze, you are now messing up with the dinner protocol!\
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