IMC President launches new anti-piracy union

[spazlabz]

http://www.xbiz.com/news/145080

NETHERLANDS — Siep R. Kuppens, President of the International Media Company, producers of numerous adult paysites, including ClubSeventeen.com and TeenLiveSex.com, is putting out a call to arms to all adult content producers who have been hijacked by online pirates and to those who wish to take preemptive measures to protect their intellectual property.

http://www.aciuf.org/index.php

It really is long past time to take a stand that accomplishes something. To quote Siep: "Unite and put up a fight"

[DannyCox]

WOW! That is a slippery slope. As much as I would like to support the cause, I would never want to be associated with IMC in any way. The majority of their stuff features underaged girls (at least for most of the world) in hardcore situations. While their sites are legal in the Netherlands, you'd get busted for kiddie porn in these parts!

[spazlabz]

Originally Posted by DannyCox

WOW! That is a slippery slope. As much as I would like to support the cause, I would never want to be associated with IMC in any way. The majority of their stuff features underaged girls (at least for most of the world) in hardcore situations. While their sites are legal in the Netherlands, you'd get busted for kiddie porn in these parts!

Wow, no slippery slope at all. There is not a single image or video on any site owned or operated by IMC that has one underage model. Every one of the sites are 100% 2257 compliant and has been since 2000.

I do not know where you got your information but it is wrong.

[RawAlex]

It looks more like a "closing the barn after the horse got out" thing. I have little doubt that the companies who chose not to be in the illegal tube business (or had rogue ex-employees running them, sending traffic to them, and eventually selling them as a package with the mothership) find themselves on the outside looking in when it comes to traffic.

That being said, the recent shut down of Mega and a few other file lockers have moved many things around, and have given a new path by which these sites can be attacked legally.

[softball]

Didn't Manwin have a similar deal it was trying to sell over at the zoo? Now that was beyond irony.

[spazlabz]

will it work or not... well, that remains to be seen and we believe that it will. A lot of time, effort and work has gone into setting this up and I can tell everyone quite freely that the enthusiasm within IMC to see this succeed is very high.

[softball]

Originally Posted by spazlabz

will it work or not... well, that remains to be seen and we believe that it will. A lot of time, effort and work has gone into setting this up and I can tell everyone quite freely that the enthusiasm within IMC to see this succeed is very high.

OK...devils advocate....400 bucks a month for a pig in a poke. Any track record or are we just gonna throw spaghetti at the fridge? And why is this different from Manwin's deal?

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by spazlabz

will it work or not... well, that remains to be seen and we believe that it will. A lot of time, effort and work has gone into setting this up and I can tell everyone quite freely that the enthusiasm within IMC to see this succeed is very high.

Be that as it may.

This, right here:

There are numerous content removal companies out there offering their “help”. But why aren’t pirates destroyed? Why is the content cleaned just here and there? Why is the content still available at everybody’s reach? With all due respect, their objective can't be to end piracy. Without piracy they will lose their right to exist.

Is quite insulting to those who are actually fighting the good fight, and it is pure bullshit.

I know people in the business of getting shit down and they go to great lengths to get sites shut down. Some of them take the whole effort quite personally. They want the pirate gone, believe me.

So, why aren't pirates destroyed through these people's efforts? Because every time you take one down, 3 new ones pop up.

How come Aids still exists? I mean doctors have been fighting that one for thirty years now. So does that mean that doctors have no interest in curing Aids, just because it still exists?

I cannot speak for all of the removal type companies out there and I will not name company names because that would not be prudent but I am tight with a couple of them and have seen the effort that they have made and I have seen the results. To imply that because they make their living fighting piracy somehow means they want pirates to stay and proliferate is downright insulting and quite disenguous coming from someone starting a "foundation" that will require a monetary contribution to join (and stay in):

The membership fee:
Considering the size of your company, thus the amount of content we need to track the membership fees are:
1) Junior - 300€/month
2) Senior - 550€/month

Pay 3 months in advance and you get a discount of €150.

For non-content companies that want to help:
* Supporting friend - 150€/month

Yeah, they're doing it to be altruistic and there won't be making a profit at all, uh huh. I see it every day on the adult boards, all the generous fucking people that never have an ulterior motive. What are they going to do when the pirates are gone? They are basing a biz on the same thing, so what makes them different?

Reminds me of Lee Noga wanting to be the fucking gatekeeper.








Oh, I almost forgot. Hi Spaz

[Toby]

Seems somewhat ironic for a company that uploads it's own content to illegal tubes.

[spazlabz]

Originally Posted by sarettah

Be that as it may.

This, right here:



Is quite insulting to those who are actually fighting the good fight, and it is pure bullshit.

I know people in the business of getting shit down and they go to great lengths to get sites shut down. Some of them take the whole effort quite personally. They want the pirate gone, believe me.

So, why aren't pirates destroyed through these people's efforts? Because every time you take one down, 3 new ones pop up.

How come Aids still exists? I mean doctors have been fighting that one for thirty years now. So does that mean that doctors have no interest in curing Aids, just because it still exists?

I cannot speak for all of the removal type companies out there and I will not name company names because that would not be prudent but I am tight with a couple of them and have seen the effort that they have made and I have seen the results. To imply that because they make their living fighting piracy somehow means they want pirates to stay and proliferate is downright insulting and quite disenguous coming from someone starting a "foundation" that will require a monetary contribution to join (and stay in):



Yeah, they're doing it to be altruistic and there won't be making a profit at all, uh huh. I see it every day on the adult boards, all the generous fucking people that never have an ulterior motive. What are they going to do when the pirates are gone? They are basing a biz on the same thing, so what makes them different?

Reminds me of Lee Noga wanting to be the fucking gatekeeper.








Oh, I almost forgot. Hi Spaz

Hi Sar!

Yes there are definitely going to be disagreements on a lot of aspects of what the ACIUF is going to be doing, their motivations and if this is a for profit endeavor or not. I would say the fees that are being charged is nothing compared to what our company is investing. The only profits we are looking to make are the ones from the increase in sales that should follow when shutting down the illegal tubes and torrents. This will not just benefit us but we believe it will benefit the industry as a whole. From content producers, sponsor programs to affiliates.

It won't happen over night and it won't be easy but our commitment to the process is firm. Mr Kuppens is welcome to express his opinions on how he feels about content removal companies and you are of course welcomed to disagree with him. What is not really open to debate is that something needs to be done and pursued with gusto... that is the intent of the ACIUF and something he and our entire organization stand behind.

It is absolutely fair to criticize the minutia of this but I sincerely hope you support the end goals of it as well. It is the big picture that matters here in my humble opinion

[softball]

Originally Posted by spazlabz

Hi Sar!

Yes there are definitely going to be disagreements on a lot of aspects of what the ACIUF is going to be doing, their motivations and if this is a for profit endeavor or not. I would say the fees that are being charged is nothing compared to what our company is investing. The only profits we are looking to make are the ones from the increase in sales that should follow when shutting down the illegal tubes and torrents. This will not just benefit us but we believe it will benefit the industry as a whole. From content producers, sponsor programs to affiliates.

It won't happen over night and it won't be easy but our commitment to the process is firm. Mr Kuppens is welcome to express his opinions on how he feels about content removal companies and you are of course welcomed to disagree with him. What is not really open to debate is that something needs to be done and pursued with gusto... that is the intent of the ACIUF and something he and our entire organization stand behind.

It is absolutely fair to criticize the minutia of this but I sincerely hope you support the end goals of it as well. It is the big picture that matters here in my humble opinion

That might well be, but the amounts you are charging are more than small companies and single girl sites can afford. Its kind of a chicken and egg situation. The pirates caused the crash and the price of fighting them is expensive and that money has dried up.
You should consider a more affordable amount for the huge amount of small sites out there that would probably seriously help the cause.
Sometimes, those that have lose sight of the reality of those who don't.

[gonzo]

How is this any different than Eric Green's Remove Your Content Service?

[rycpitbull]

Originally Posted by spazlabz

Wow, no slippery slope at all. There is not a single image or video on any site owned or operated by IMC that has one underage model. Every one of the sites are 100% 2257 compliant and has been since 2000.

I do not know where you got your information but it is wrong.

Speaking on the note of disinformation, I already emailed Maria and informed her I would not tolerate any further defamation/tortious interference by your company to studios. Additionally.. our attorneys will be in touch, with Marcel Dauwe, regarding the trademark infringement on his site for which I have demanded he remove over the past 6 months.

You've done nothing to "unite" anyone.. rather have taken a self-destructive stance to attack those who are already in the trenches. I would not recommend this to anyone.

[rycpitbull]

Originally Posted by gonzo

How is this any different than Eric Green's Remove Your Content Service?

His company is telling studios we do nothing to stop pirates which is a complete lie. They know nothing about what we do because we do not submit press releases to anyone about anything. Just two examples I can think of in the last 30 days... We just put someone in prison streaming a studio's stolen porn:
http://offender.tdcj.state.tx.us/POS...n?sid=05022698
and also just received a writ of execution on a $41K piracy judgement for another studio.http://www.xbiz.com/news/144268

Like MANY others in the past.. they have nothing to go on so they attack others. Nice business.

[softball]

Originally Posted by rycpitbull

His company is telling studios we do nothing to stop pirates which is a complete lie. They know nothing about what we do because we do not submit press releases to anyone about anything. Just two examples I can think of in the last 30 days... We just put someone in prison streaming a studio's stolen porn:
http://offender.tdcj.state.tx.us/POS...n?sid=05022698
and also just received a writ of execution on a $41K piracy judgement for another studio.http://www.xbiz.com/news/144268

Like MANY others in the past.. they have nothing to go on so they attack others. Nice business.

so give us an idea of your prices please.

[rycpitbull]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

so give us an idea of your prices please.

Each campaign is different but very cost effective. Please feel free to email info at removeyourcontent dot com and we'll be happy to tailor a quote.

We provide a valuable service but should not be seen as a replacement for a traditional law firm. These people have already attacked lawyers (one of our lawyers laughed btw).. so I can't see how that's beneficial in their unity quest.

Quite humorous are statements such as this "With all due respect, their objective can't be to end piracy." I suppose the same could be said about the local auto-repair dealership who is just hoping your car breaks down so they can fix it... or maybe the doctor who is praying you get hurt so he can remedy.