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Old 04-19-2006   #1
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Default Microniche sites - amateur or pro design?

I am in the process of working a new tour into our site, and it will be for puffy nipples....I was always taught that when you are dealing with a microniche an amateur, more personal, tour sells much better, but I would love to get the insight of the oprano old timers in on this.
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i learned a while ago that it all depends on the model.

i will explain my 2 cents

if the model is really amateur looking as in not a super model or glamour you can go with a more home made look and it will work.

but if she is one of those amateurs/glamour babes then go a little fancier on the design

the point is do not make a design that looks prettier than the actual model because it can lead to unsatisfied paid customers or poor sales.

and viceversa
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Make both. You can run multiple tours.
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Make both. You can run multiple tours.
I plan on it, but for right now I am just toying with ideas in my head

My goal is to have 6 tours by the end of the year
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i learned a while ago that it all depends on the model.

i will explain my 2 cents

if the model is really amateur looking as in not a super model or glamour you can go with a more home made look and it will work.

but if she is one of those amateurs/glamour babes then go a little fancier on the design

the point is do not make a design that looks prettier than the actual model because it can lead to unsatisfied paid customers or poor sales.

and viceversa
Which site was that for?
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i learned a while ago that it all depends on the model.

i will explain my 2 cents

if the model is really amateur looking as in not a super model or glamour you can go with a more home made look and it will work.

but if she is one of those amateurs/glamour babes then go a little fancier on the design

the point is do not make a design that looks prettier than the actual model because it can lead to unsatisfied paid customers or poor sales.

and viceversa
that is actually a great point....luckily I have a ton of really great amateur content for my wife, and I am going to do the amateur style tour right now

but like Mike said there will be multiple tours for each niche and style
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Make both. You can run multiple tours.
to be honest, right now money is a factor....while we are getting up there and doing nicely, we have a while to go before we can just have our designer pop out a bunch of tours continuously...we have to budget our best moves right now
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I need to get all this done fast though, I have been building up my SE shit for puffy nipples and it came WAY faster than I expected it too, right now I am covering the first pages of a lot of search engines and sending them all to the normal tour on our site


but my goal is to have all of this
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to be honest, right now money is a factor....while we are getting up there and doing nicely, we have a while to go before we can just have our designer pop out a bunch of tours continuously...we have to budget our best moves right now
I understand. Of course an amateur design you should be able to build yourself.
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Make both. You can run multiple tours.


Also think backwards when you design your tours... most people fail, because they first think design, and then traffic - if you reverse the two, then you will have demand looking for supply, instead of supply looking for demand.... it makes all the difference.
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Also think backwards when you design your tours... most people fail, because they first think design, and then traffic - if you reverse the two, then you will have demand looking for supply, instead of supply looking for demand.... it makes all the difference.
That indeed was a pearl
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Also think backwards when you design your tours... most people fail, because they first think design, and then traffic - if you reverse the two, then you will have demand looking for supply, instead of supply looking for demand.... it makes all the difference.
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Also think backwards when you design your tours... most people fail, because they first think design, and then traffic - if you reverse the two, then you will have demand looking for supply, instead of supply looking for demand.... it makes all the difference.
It was about time
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If you've got the psd for the original 'glamour' design, is it possible to switch pics to puffy nipples instead of the standard... that way you can get a pro tour up, and see wht works before you get a designer involved.
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If you've got the psd for the original 'glamour' design, is it possible to switch pics to puffy nipples instead of the standard... that way you can get a pro tour up, and see wht works before you get a designer involved.
yup, sure do, and that is a nice idea...just use all the same design elements, but swithc out the pics to emphasize the puffy nipples
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Which site was that for?

baaaaaack when i used to be partners in sexual-linkage.com and free4sex.com (which recently expired haha i guess my old partner let it die) we used those sites as a hubs to send traffic to sponsors and we created custom pages for them and i noticed that my idea worked



however Rolo's pearl added to my 2 cents could be very nice.

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a student of al ries and jack trout?
Well, yes it is essential reading, but I must admit that I have also learned alot by trial and error - simply because I´m a stubborn perfectionist with a slightly narcissistic opinion about my own work ;-))

However these days I´m finding exploring subjects such as synchronization and connectedness are helping me to improve the questions, which I end up seeking the answers too. The questions are just as important as the answers - none of them make sense without the other.
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It was about time
Once in a while you will need to throw someone a bone, or he will end up dead, and then you will have no one to kick in the butt ;-)))
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Ya, ok, now pass the bong & keep the bones coming
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something I just whipped up in between naps

http://www.tabithastoybox.net/tt3/
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something I just whipped up in between naps

http://www.tabithastoybox.net/tt3/
That might just work. Why not flesh it out and send some targetted traffic to it?
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That might just work. Why not flesh it out and send some targetted traffic to it?
flesh it out?
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flesh it out?
Finish it up ...
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I need to get all this done fast though, I have been building up my SE shit for puffy nipples and it came WAY faster than I expected it too, right now I am covering the first pages of a lot of search engines and sending them all to the normal tour on our site


but my goal is to have all of this
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If you have a muhahaha idea, don't post the details on a public board, there's probably 10 SEO guys putting up "puffy nipples" pages tonight
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BTW I wonder how many of those are body builders looking for info on their gyno
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Okay, I will shamelessly display my ignorance.

What makes a nipple a puffy nipple?
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If you have a muhahaha idea, don't post the details on a public board, there's probably 10 SEO guys putting up "puffy nipples" pages tonight
eh, i don't care really....I already have the traffic rolling in, they are welcome to some of it too
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It's the marshmelows that makes 'em like that, right? She must eat alot of marshmelows,...I just know it
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