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Old 03-28-2005   #1
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Im reading around some of the boards to the reaction of the raise in the price for admission to the Florida show. Looks like a lot of people are raising hell.
AVN sez they had to raise the price to restrict the admission to the hotel to attendees only. I understand restricting access to the hotel and show but Im not sure how that would change the price of admission.

Plus Im looking at the prices to sponsor some of the aspects... looks to me like the hotel was bought out and they are selling sponsorships right down to the damn toilet paper. [Which is sold out]

Hopefully Aly will check in and shed some more light on the improvements and the new marketing innovations that were being discussed earlier this year.

Do yall think $250 is too high for the Florida show?
What do you think of the new policy.... no ticket no admission to the hotel?
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wow thats outrageous.

i thnk we should start another show at the same time.

boycott the avn show.

fuck soon they will be as expensive as the aoe shows.
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From my perspective....


ahahahahahahaah and you suckers will still pay it , you know you will ?

ahahahahahahahahah


If so , I fucking love AVN!!! ahahahahahahahahahaha

Fucking Awesome!!

They are treating you guys like I treat surfers ahahahahahahahaha

Bitch gripe complain...and it will achieve absolutely nothing except getting even more publicity and selling even more tickets for AVN!!!

ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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wow thats outrageous.

i thnk we should start another show at the same time.

boycott the avn show.

fuck soon they will be as expensive as the aoe shows.
See thats the only thing that could hurt them...

and :

a) no one will
no one will

ahahahahahahahahahahaha

Enjoy the show surfers ahahahahahaha

Twist them Aly make them bleed , then Aly come on here , be very professional charming , throw in a few jokes , and they'll love you still and you can fuck them again and again..its a recurring model!! ;-)))


But hang on...

I'm telling you the plot! lol

ahahahahaha
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You charge what the market will bear. Overburden the market and they simply won't buy.

There is a point where we surfers just won't pay.

Yeah. I think 250. is too high.

I haven't looked yet; but, if it's to keep the riff raff out, well, I'm sure they will accomplish that...and if they didn't do anything to the sponsors, well, the sponsors may well be the only ones in attendance.

Here's the thing....when sponsors were charging 50-60 dollars to get a membership, surfers stopped paying.
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just wondering

i call and book a room at the westin for those days using the internext hookup or what ever

and dont get a pass. you mean to tell me they are going to kick me out?

also, they raised the room rates. just figure id let u in on that one as well.
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I'm not really big on being in Florida in August anyways, so wasn't really excited to attend as it was...
so basically, if I wanted to take my wife so she could enjoy some shopping and sites, I (or the company ;-)) would have to buy an extra ticket for her or she can't stay at the show hotel? Someone who won't be attending the show or parties anyways? interesting...
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ahahahaha bullshit!!!

You are all gonna whine and bitch...

but you'll be there.
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just wondering

i call and book a room at the westin for those days using the internext hookup or what ever

and dont get a pass. you mean to tell me they are going to kick me out?

also, they raised the room rates. just figure id let u in on that one as well.
What did they raise the room rates too? I booked a month or so ago, and was given a rate at that time, so it will be intersting to see how that works out .
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Ok... let me see if I get this right..

If I phone up the Westin to book a room for that time period , and have no intent of going to the show , just going to sit by the pool and in the bar , I have to buy a ticket too?

if so..........................



Brilliant!!!






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ahahahaha bullshit!!!

You are all gonna whine and bitch...

but you'll be there.
Yeah Ive already called ahead for your AVN opera loafers.
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yes, im going. i have alot of people i need to talk to, i need to take a trip to s fl and see a close friend and this kinda bundles everything up. no matter how they bend me over and fuck my ass, im going

still a write off =D
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no ticket no admission to the hotel?
Id say that was about right

Perhaps this will be one of the last AVN shows... Coupled with the outrageous costs of renting a suite for 24hours when its only needed for 3.

Needless to say our events are going to be held off-site this year and they arent going to be officially 'sanctioned' by AVN
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Goodness, I wasn't aware that Aly owned AVN now, I thought she collected a paycheck.
Next time I'm surely not paying for lunch
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2.) I really don't give a monkey's grey pube whether you are amused or not.
I know.

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OMG, this is turning into some strange sort of British courting ritual!
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OMG, this is turning into some strange sort of British courting ritual!
Now hold on there lady!!!

We don't do that over here any more! So it's got to be a Canadian/cunty thing!
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Goodness, I wasn't aware that Aly owned AVN now, I thought she collected a paycheck.
Next time I'm surely not paying for lunch
So what are you saying KK?????

Its not your buddy's Aly's fault if her employers , want to act , IMHO , like any good business and charge , as Raven said "What the market will bear?"

I fail to understand why Aly would be embarassed or nay ashamed of the rates AVN are charging.
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I might add that if I owned AVN, I'd be charging 500 bucks for a ticket.
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The badge cost is $250 with early registration. That's a lot more than the convention attendee badge was last year.

Last year, the trade show floor itself was the revenue source... that's why people had to exhibit in order to throw 'official' events, otherwise, they would have been 'leeching' off the event.

But lots of people wanted to be involved and have events and so on without having a booth, so that requirement was removed. That does, however, according to an Internext spreadsheet somewhere, amount to a serious loss in revenue (including that necessary to cover basic costs) for the show... even with people sponsoring the toilet paper.

So, to even this all out, attendance in any way now has a flat fee. That fee covers entry to all events, including exhibits and seminars and so on. And, the nice folks at Internext are also having wireless access added to the entire area.

Raven's right... as is Nick... and maybe Lee too... People will either buy it or they won't, and that remains to be seen.
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I was just hoping to get an honest answer on some of the marketing improvements shes been working on since she started.

Please dont tell me its just stuff like sponsoring the hotel room's toilet paper or the bar napkins.

Lets hear more about chances to be more involved with networking and more business related ventures.
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I still what to know if she thinks $250 is too high??

I thought it wasn't and agree with you , KK..I'd charge whatever the sad fucks would pay..

But obviously Aly is in some way ashamed of that price..
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Raven's right... as is Nick...
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!

A minute ago it was "not amused" and "fuck off"

Now I'm right ....WHUUUUUUUUU HUH?

So you think 250 is a fair price?
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I was just hoping to get an honest answer on some of the marketing improvements shes been working on since she started.

Please dont tell me its just stuff like sponsoring the hotel room's toilet paper or the bar napkins.

Lets hear more about chances to be more involved with networking and more business related ventures.
Sure... darling. In answer to a few of the larger demands...

We're arranging at least one (possibly more) networking lunch with topics by table.
24 tables. Probably on a first-come-first served basis. (which is why this may carry on for more than one day)

We're mailing the badges after people pre-register, to avoid congestion at the hotel.

Sponsors no longer HAVE to exhibit in order to throw events - there are many more options in that area now.

There are hard-walled meeting rooms on show floor, so people can have their own place to meet without having to get a booth or hospitality suite... but that's also an option of course.

We've closed the show to the public, thus removing people from the show who were simply hanging around. This means, whoever you meet is a potential business partner or client.

There are more educational sessions in the seminar program, as requested.

I want to clarify that I do not run Internext. The Trade Show department runs Internext. I simply yell at the trade show department from time to time and hope to create change...
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""" We've closed the show to the public """

So no gfyers can get in?

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Gonzo, contact terri@internext-expo.com for information about throwing an event.
or phone: 818-718-5788 and ask for Terri or Renee.

If you have any trouble at all, hit me up and I'll help out.
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sounds like a few pretty major improvements have been made overall - stuff that should have been done all along but that AVN are only just now bothering to do ...

like nick said, attendees have still gone in droves despite all the negative feedback every time - so I doubt the increase in price will effect the numbers at the show, but it will effect the type of webmaster.

There will be even less hard working, long running programs there and a lot more fly-by-night showoffs who have made their first and only money in their lives flashing it around to pick up some ass.

but with all that said, I think you'll find if you revisit the thread where Aly asked for feedback from everyone, the main things requested were meeting rooms on the show floor, less general public access, events open to non exibitors, pre-registered tickets to be mailed prior to show etc .... seems like there is a lot that HAS been done that WE asked for ..........

>>>>but, if it's to keep the riff raff out, well, I'm sure they will accomplish that

Raven, are you saying that anyone who will spend $250 on a ticket isn't riff raff?

I beg to differ
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Raven, are you saying that anyone who will spend $250 on a ticket isn't riff raff?

I beg to differ
I saw someone with a ticket in a sweaty tank top tossing hotel furniture last year after trying to talk smack. I bet that qualifies as riff raff.

Not sure what the FTC calls em though. Oh thats right...."employee".
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*snorting tea*

HAHAHHAHAAHAAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAA

my point exactly
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I'm confused about how admission to the hotel will be restricted?

Was the term restricted used to mean that due to the increased admission price it is felt less people will just show up and hang in the lobby and go to functions or just stay at a different hotel

or that you would have to have a show badge to get into the hotel

I can't imagine the latter really happening unless AVN buys out the entire hotel

But I've been wrong before
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I am having a spot of Green tea at the moment....

what was the price last year, shit i forgot already LOL

is it going to be more than $250.00 if you wait til the show to register?

did I hear you right? lunch is now included too each day?
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Right now... so who's AVN and he's charging what per room


I know a guy only charges £15 for one of his rooms and there no chat needed
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I'm confused about how admission to the hotel will be restricted?

Was the term restricted used to mean that due to the increased admission price it is felt less people will just show up and hang in the lobby and go to functions or just stay at a different hotel

or that you would have to have a show badge to get into the hotel

I can't imagine the latter really happening unless AVN buys out the entire hotel

But I've been wrong before
Yes, AVN has booked the entire hotel. (They still sell the rooms though, not AVN. Internext makes no money off the rooms or any other amenities.... which is silly of em really. LOL..)

So, you're correct, people without badges will not be able to enter the hotel. There'll be security at the door checking badges.
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Thanks for the clarification Aly

That's interesting

While I don't know AVN's business form the inside it looks like AVN could stand to lose $ if there are not a lot of attendees (am sure the X number to profit has been figured out long ago and AVN decided to take the rick)

While I'm not a member of the AVN fan club it would be a shame (or an opportunity) to see the Internext shows ended due to lack of attendance


and for the record I don't think $250 is to high a price but ..........

We'll see what happens
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We'll see what happens
I agree. It's a risk and we'll just have to see how it goes down.
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hmmm, if I do end up attending, I'll just leave the wife home.......which should probably be the right course of action anyways...thanks AVN for giving me a real reason to give my wife why she can't attend ;-) I'll explain that extra $250 could go for shoes...
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I was there last year, and it seems to me that the floor was empty most days, was the hotel full last year with just industry people?

how will this effect the debauchary levels allowed at the partes? could someone say like have a strip poker tournament?
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Old 03-28-2005   #46
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Ah, less competition for the hot tub
Sounds good to me!
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I was there last year, and it seems to me that the floor was empty most days, was the hotel full last year with just industry people?

how will this effect the debauchary levels allowed at the partes? could someone say like have a strip poker tournament?
It was largely industry people, but not exclusively at all. Anyone could come.

As for the strip poker... you know I'm on it!
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I was there last year, and it seems to me that the floor was empty most days, was the hotel full last year with just industry people?

how will this effect the debauchary levels allowed at the partes? could someone say like have a strip poker tournament?
Okay... apparently the strip poker tournament's off because hotel employees are considered 'the public' as far as decency is concerned. However, I've heard a rumour: What happens in Joe's room stays in Joe's room...

In other somewhat related news... The Trade Show department just offered up an oprano competition: "If people only post nice things about Internext until the show, we'll make Aly wear a G-string, and only a G-string, for the duration of Internext."

Well now, if that isn't 'indecent' by definition, I don't know what is!
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