Porn Sales

[will76]

Everyone bitches about tube sites killing the industry but I think Mobile porn has done just as much if not more damage. I've seen my mobile traffic increase from just 2% 5-6 years ago to about 25-30% now.

I can't convert mobile traffic for shit.
- Most of the time people are on their phone they are in public. When they are alone (at home or work) they are usually sitting in front of their pc and use that to surf. Porn is an impulse buy, less likely to purchase when in public vs being home alone. In past most people surfed internet when they were in private.
- Billing sucks for US residents. In Europe i've read mobile users can easily make transactions on their phone and bill it to their phone company. US mobile users have to fill out a signup page with credit card number on their phone which is a big obstacle vs clicking a button to bill you.
- Viewing porn in general sucks on your phone (small screen) and not everything works on phones or is compliant.

I've tried several different mobile programs and I can not find one that converts 1/20th as good as regular web traffic. Basically my mobile traffic is a total loss and each day the % of mobile users keeps increasing.

The increase in mobile usage + people not buying due to finding everything for free on tube sites, then the people who do actually try to join are getting declined at a growing rate hardly anyone is getting through. I've seen the number of people who get declined continue to increase year to year over the last 4-5 years.

It's like putting them through a funnel with holes in it, almost everything is getting siphoned off before it makes it to the bottom.

Free porn, mobile usage and people having maxed out credit cards and banks reducing their available limits all started happening in 2008-2009 the same time everyone started seeing big drops in sales. The perfect storm.

[Hell Puppy]

I'll give away my one nugget for 2013 early....

Browsers on tablets are typically reported as "mobile". Big difference between user experience on a phone versus a tablet or even a phablet.

[Toby]

Originally Posted by Hell Puppy

I'll give away my one nugget for 2013 early....

Browsers on tablets are typically reported as "mobile". Big difference between user experience on a phone versus a tablet or even a phablet.

I think that will likely change in the not too distant future with tablet specific versions of browsers. At this point there's almost zero difference between smart phone and tablet as far as OS and apps other than the size of the display.

It's already obvious that tablets are headed towards replacing laptops, but in order for that to happen the tablet OS has to become robust enough to run some of the essential desktop apps.

[housekeeper]

Originally Posted by Toby

It's already obvious that tablets are headed towards replacing laptops, but in order for that to happen the tablet OS has to become robust enough to run some of the essential desktop apps.

To my view tablets already have replace laptops, if you're selling on-line product you'd be wise to focus on what specifically mobile users are purchasing. As mentioned, when browsers expand and become more functional, people will make porn purchases.

[Toby]

Originally Posted by housekeeper

To my view tablets already have replace laptops, if you're selling on-line product you'd be wise to focus on what specifically mobile users are purchasing. As mentioned, when browsers expand and become more functional, people will make porn purchases.

There are still too many things you can't do on a tablet for it to completely replace laptops as a business tool. Just look at the apps you use regularly on your primary work computer. I'll bet there is at least one, and probably several, apps essential to what you do that do not have an adequate equivalent for tablets.

The casual home user is a different story, but tablet browsers don't display sites that much differently than small laptops. Tablet and phone OS's will converge soon enough.

[RawAlex]

Will, one of the problems of selling mobile traffic is that many programs will dick you over on it, making it very hard to make a trackable sale.

I won't mention which program (as they fixed the issue) but I had one very large program which took all the mobile traffic to galleries and redirected it to their "mobile mega site" with the default NATS 10001 referral code instead of mine. I bitched, and while the rep says the programmers found nothing wrong, my traffic to the program literally doubled overnight.

My suggestion is get your mobile device and start surfing your sites, links, and galleries. I think you will be shocked to see how little of your mobile traffic actually makes it to a point that you will get paid for it.

[softball]

at the moment, mobile for me is a necessary value added deal for my customers who most likely join at home or work. They still want to view on their tablets, phablets or whatever. Billing support needs to catch up to mobile capability which I am sure is imminent.