Do you want Gonzo to post your real name?

[camandago]

and gonzo... YES i would love some new shoes, some new clothes... and a day at the spa for me and my girlfriend.

[Hammer]

I'm not ashamed but I understand that the majority of the public doesn't want to admit they know us. Maybe when you get a little older you'll understand.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by camandago

GONZO-
Yes it is your vegas wife. When do i get to see my husband again? I am missing you terribly. Love ya,
Amanda

Do you need a ticket to Charlotte?

Or Ill be in Atlanta next weekend.

[Sexyteaser]

Originally Posted by Hammer

Wow, I can't wait for the day when my girls are old enough to defend me on a porn board... oh wait, yes I can.

They grow up fast. I have a lot to learn so forgive me for making some mistakes along the way. I desire to consult on some legislation and gain expertise to support consumer protection and affiliate marketing law.

If you had any idea of the three biggest stories that are about to break in this industry you would know that having an advocate might not be a bad idea right now and along the way a few people are making some money off my work so its a win win all the way.

By the way protection just showed up here so I think we are ok for now.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by Shelleehale

They grow up fast. I have a lot to learn so forgive me for making some mistakes along the way. I desire to consult on some legislation and gain expertise to support consumer protection and affiliate marketing law.

If you had any idea of the three biggest stories that are about to break in this industry you would know that having an advocate might not be a bad idea right now and along the way a few people are making some money off my work so its a win win all the way.

By the way protection just showed up here so I think we are ok for now.

I used to have an outfit kind of like that.
No cowl though... only a Krispy Kreme hat.

[Hammer]

He's got floppy ears. Are those jammies?

[mmemmer]

Never do anything that you don't want your name attached to or are embarassed by, sign your work with pride and take credit where it is due!

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by Hammer

He's got floppy ears. Are those jammies?

POP IN LAW!

[Sexyteaser]

Originally Posted by Hammer

I'm not ashamed but I understand that the majority of the public doesn't want to admit they know us. Maybe when you get a little older you'll understand.

Hammer - that is only true depending on how you start and how you finish. Ordinary people don't ever do extraordinary things. So it takes great risk to accomplish something big... I like to think big and take risks and fortunately they tend to work out for me.

When I entered this business I was into the second half of my life (if I live to be 90) and had a lot of friends - I don't think one of them has turned their back on me yet over this. In fact - it is the big topic at most gatherings around here and they always want an update. Kasey who was my little sister's best friend whom I have known for 30 years became my partner. Most my friends I have known over 20 years. So I don't have to prove myself but it's no fun doing nothing with your life.

98% of children were a love child and not planned - sex is a natural integral important part of human nature. We are in different times 8 our of 10 children have been exposed to online adult material - some at school and I can't be blamed. But how many people in this business had their kids abducted or harmed - I did not know this was a big issue.

Most parents are calling me for advice and to discuss finding material their teen/kids saw online; so I have actually become a great resource for my community because of this experience.

It's all how you are positioned in your community and the conviction you have for what you do and how you do it. I am really not that stupid.

[camandago]

Hammer-
Thank you for your advice, HOWEVER... I would appreciate it if you were not condecending with me. I may be 22 years old but I work 3 jobs, I am going to school to become a nurse. I have 6 brothers and 2 sisters whom I am extremely close with and am a great example for. I am SOBER and live my life based on integrity. I may be very young on a number scale but I would have to guess that I am more mature than you probably will ever be.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by camandago

Hammer-
Thank you for your advice, HOWEVER... I would appreciate it if you were not condecending with me. I may be 22 years old but I work 3 jobs, I am going to school to become a nurse. I have 6 brothers and 2 sisters whom I am extremely close with and am a great example for. I am SOBER and live my life based on integrity. I may be very young on a number scale but I would have to guess that I am more mature than you probably will ever be.

And she has a pretty sweet ass.

[Jace]

i could care less personally

but I know some people hide who they are and what they do, I don't get it, but if that is what they want I try and respect that.....until they purposely don't show me any respect, then it is all fair game

[softball]

Originally Posted by Jace

i could care less personally

but I know some people hide who they are and what they do, I don't get it, but if that is what they want I try and respect that.....until they purposely don't show me any respect, then it is all fair game

Threats. Why do you guys like you always resort to shit like this

[Hell Puppy]

Hi.

My name is Hugh Jass.

[EmporerEJ]

My Real Name has ALWAYS been used:

Eric J. White


I'll be damned if I'm gonna hide under a rock, or be intimidated by people that think the adult industry is a bad thing.

Come get me. I'm easy to find. I'm listed "in the book."

[Forest]

Originally Posted by camandago

Hammer-
Thank you for your advice, HOWEVER... I would appreciate it if you were not condecending with me. I may be 22 years old but I work 3 jobs, I am going to school to become a nurse. I have 6 brothers and 2 sisters whom I am extremely close with and am a great example for. I am SOBER and live my life based on integrity. I may be very young on a number scale but I would have to guess that I am more mature than you probably will ever be.

you GO girl!

I dont even know you but I like you

[softball]

Originally Posted by EmporerEJ

My Real Name has ALWAYS been used:

Eric J. White


I'll be damned if I'm gonna hide under a rock, or be intimidated by people that think the adult industry is a bad thing.

Come get me. I'm easy to find. I'm listed "in the book."

Emp, you are not exactly in the "adult business". You are a manufacturer. If publishing your real name would hurt your relationship with your loved ones, put you at risk from the local bubba sheriff, put you in danger from stalking fans, or perhaps more to the point, cost you money because of other business interests, you would not be so quick to lose money or endanger any of the above relationships and/or people. JFK tried that shit out on me once at a GFY party, and I am sorry it just doesn't fly. Pseudonyms have been used by everyone from writers to actors. The Nom de plume is a time honoured tradition. This has a lot to do with safety and business and nothing to do with morals or pride. In your line of work, none of this is a threat to you unless perhaps you are putting your bare ass and dick in front of the camera and we don't know about it. In which case, see above.

[softball]

Originally Posted by Forest

you GO girl!

I dont even know you but I like you

Ooooooh Hammer, you have a worthy opponent here.

[ali25extreme]

My name is Alicia..as far as my last name I have stalkers!!! I am sure that they could find me if they wanted to but I changed my last name to help! I see both sides of this, why to keep it secret and why you should go all out. I am not big into the biz yet..so maybe someday later once I can hire bodyguards I will spill the beans! Until then...

[softball]

Originally Posted by ali25extreme

My name is Alicia..as far as my last name I have stalkers!!! I am sure that they could find me if they wanted to but I changed my last name to help! I see both sides of this, why to keep it secret and why you should go all out. I am not big into the biz yet..so maybe someday later once I can hire bodyguards I will spill the beans! Until then...

You will have to be very big in the business to afford bodyguards. Don't get your hopes up. I don't mean that with any ill intent. But unless you get very lucky, it is prolly not an option.

[EmporerEJ]

Originally Posted by Hammer

They'd rather have Krispy Kreme.

Don't count on Gonzo for the Krispy Kremes.....
It's like Charlie Brown's football. He promises to get you the Krispy Kremes, and at the last minute, pulls them out from under you. You go away hungry, with YOUR Krispy Kremes in HIS belly.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by camandago

and gonzo... YES i would love some new shoes, some new clothes... and a day at the spa for me and my girlfriend.

Another threesome.
Lance is going to be so jealous again!

[Sexyteaser]

Here is a cute photo of Mandy and Gonzo - and the friend of her's Gonzo ran off.

amandagonzo.jpg

[Sexyteaser]

Originally Posted by camandago

Hammer-
Thank you for your advice, HOWEVER... I would appreciate it if you were not condecending with me. I may be 22 years old but I work 3 jobs, I am going to school to become a nurse. I have 6 brothers and 2 sisters whom I am extremely close with and am a great example for. I am SOBER and live my life based on integrity. I may be very young on a number scale but I would have to guess that I am more mature than you probably will ever be.

Besides all that she just gave a week out of her time to fly to Texas and help build a home for Habitat For Humanity.

[softball]

Originally Posted by Shelleehale

Besides all that she just gave a week out of her time to fly to Texas and help build a home for Habitat For Humanity.

Holy shit, she could be on the fast track to becoming a saint. If she can turn water into wine, I have work for her. I also have a couple of loaves of bread for her. Just imagine what that could do to feed the hungry in America. What a kid you got there.

[Sexyteaser]

Originally Posted by Hammer

I'm not ashamed but I understand that the majority of the public doesn't want to admit they know us. Maybe when you get a little older you'll understand.

It's Hammertime....

Since you are talking about your personal experience here I guess we conclude that a majority of the public doesn't want to admit they know you. I am older and I do understand.

Here is some of my knowledge Verisign got their start in Adult and easily crossed over with no stigma - its a different world especially with mainstream companies using techniques adult monitized for years there is great opportunity out there and the stigma is lessened - the people still judging seem to be getting caught in hypocritical situations every day.

Now you have bigger problems as large webdesigners and seo companies (organic, widemile, searchrev, etc.) open their markets to adult companies to keep growth. For instance, a mainstream web designer just programmed an adult membership site they billed at over a million dollars. I am sure your 1400.00 clients are a different breed but are you? Are you a million dollar designer or a 1400.00 one? But, I am not smart according to you, yet I could probably get you double what you make now with just two of my contacts. Damn I could probably even arrange a merger/buy if your as good as you say; but I am sure you do this because you love it not for the money. Oh and then there's that list of people you will never to do business with.

But once again if you are concerned about "sick fucks" here and your kids - using an alias or fake name is not going to protect them better than I can protect my kids. It might take the sickos a few more minutes to get the goods on you but your kids are just as vulnerable to the disturbing concerns you have. My guess is your really disturbed about what your doing in this business and raising your kids and took it out on me. Your conflict comes from wanting to keep two seperate lives and we are all just one person no matter how you slice it. It is time to integrate.

I can get anything about anybody within minutes online - that's why the Dirty D thing and everyone questioning the arrest was laughable it was $10 to verify but an arrest record is not a guilt record. I don't think he's going to be too harmed by a repost of a story that had his real name and has been online for 5 years. Funny thing I don't even remember what his real name is and he will always just be Dirty D to me.

OMG a mother daughter tag team all over you... I actually feel bad now, once again I will say that it is my intention to get off your black list and I don't think I am doing a very good job; I am sure I am on the black black list now.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by Hammer

Shellee I'm not going to argue with you because frankly I don't think you have the intelligence to make it worth my time. If you don't care anymore about your children's safety than to post your real name and address on an adult webmaster board where some real sick fucks lurk, then you're an idiot.

As for Tev's comment about being honest, that one escapes me. Because I choose to use a pen name when posting on the boards, that somehow shows that I must be dishonest and have something to hide rather than not wanting everyone in my community knowing what I do. I'm not ashamed of this business but I'll decide who I tell what I do and who I don't.

Well put, Hammer.

I would like to add my own 2 cents here and say that it really doesn't matter if people use their real names here in adult, or not.

Some people chose to use fake names for no reason, while others use it because of the way so many people publicly view the porn industry. Susie homaker likes porn, wants to make porn, but doesn't need the headache of her uppity next door neighbour finding out, at least not yet. Therefore she'll choose a fake name.

When I meet someone at a show with a name such as "Dirty D", "Hammer", "Sleazy", etc, to me, this is THEIR NAME, PERIOD. I won't judge anyone using a fake name in adult, nor will I give any bonus points to anyone who openly declares their real name either. For me, I just don't care.

All I care about is what they do, how they do business, what their product is (or how they can sell mine). That's it!

Regardless, when someone does not want to use their real name, you should respect their wishes. Why? Because it is something they want to keep private. Lots of people here have mainstream businesses, families and other interests to protect.

If you're about to do business with someone in adult, the legal names come out anyway when it comes time to write the check, right? If we are going to write a check to Hammer and his company name is Hammer, Inc, thats good enough for me.

Mark Prince
http://www.2Much.net
http://www.LiveCamNetwork.com

[Sexyteaser]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

Well put, Hammer.

I would like to add my own 2 cents here and say that it really doesn't matter if people use their real names here in adult, or not.

Some people chose to use fake names for no reason, while others use it because of the way so many people publicly view the porn industry. Susie homaker likes porn, wants to make porn, but doesn't need the headache of her uppity next door neighbour finding out, at least not yet. Therefore she'll choose a fake name.

When I meet someone at a show with a name such as "Dirty D", "Hammer", "Sleazy", etc, to me, this is THEIR NAME, PERIOD. I won't judge anyone using a fake name in adult, nor will I give any bonus points to anyone who openly declares their real name either. For me, I just don't care.

All I care about is what they do, how they do business, what their product is (or how they can sell mine). That's it!

Regardless, when someone does not want to use their real name, you should respect their wishes. Why? Because it is something they want to keep private. Lots of people here have mainstream businesses, families and other interests to protect.

If you're about to do business with someone in adult, the legal names come out anyway when it comes time to write the check, right? If we are going to write a check to Hammer and his company name is Hammer, Inc, thats good enough for me.

Mark Prince
http://www.2Much.net
http://www.LiveCamNetwork.com

I thought you went away?

Using a fake name does not change who you are or what you do it only makes you look worst when you get found out and your real name and assumed names were used as people think you were hiding something, which is the point of this thread and everwhere it has gone.

Your not hiding anything using a fake name unless your living in the 1980's the internet and technology has made it real easy to figure out who is who.

We discovered that you Mark Prince came on here as Soundslikebullshit to stir things up, but you came up with some lame excuse when you got found out.

Supposedly you called the guy "Soundslikebullshit" (or yourself) you gave the computer to with the mac/ip matching your's and instead of having him come on here and set the record straight he has disappeared. Basic scripts can crawl the internet tracing and pulling up most of what you do online - we can even discover all the Mark Prince 2Much.net failures and victims - what do you have like a 99% failure rate with your clients and you want to brag about all the sales lately. Maybe you should work on improving their success rate before you brag about selling new licenses for something with a 99% chance of failing.

My god, with Video Secrets, Moo Cash, Camz etc any one paying you for anything even a 2Much.net license to be victimzed is throwing money in the toilet. These companies have a much larger payout and actually Pay unlike you and don't charge for a white label.

Esensual networks offers a better platform for a lot less and they don't steal either. And your little mbase thing you use to sell this whole thing if anyone wants to hear the truth about that hit me up on icq or send me a pm and Mark who takes a 35-55% fee to use from both the user and the buyer licensee is the only person that can profit and he randomly changes the percentages even though you have one rate in your contract and then takes months to fix the accounting errors - floating your money to run his company.

I think the coffin with 2Much.net in it is just getting dirt thrown on top of it with all the double talk and lies you post on here - I give you a year before your out of business and I don't think Tracy will bail you out again when she becomes aware of what your really up to. So stop insulting me and go back to bailing your company from sinking. You can say one thing on here but if you are not telling the truth you are going to get found out and are fair game.

[Toby]

Originally Posted by Shelleehale

We discovered that you Mark Prince came on here as Soundslikebullshit to stir things up, but you came up with some lame excuse when you got found out.

That part deserved some more emphasis.

[Sexyteaser]

Originally Posted by Toby

That part deserved some more emphasis.

Thanks Toby...

Also I guess this does also

I can get anything about anybody within minutes online - that's why the Dirty D thing and everyone questioning the arrest was laughable it was $10 to verify but an arrest record is not a guilt record. I don't think he's going to be too harmed by a repost of a story that had his real name and has been online for 5 years. Funny thing I don't even remember what his real name is and he will always just be Dirty D to me.

[2MuchMark]

Shellee,

Using a fake name does not change who you are or what you do it only makes you look worst when you get found out and your real name and assumed names were used as people think you were hiding something

Are you fucking kidding me? Do you think for a second that people believe that names used in adult are Real? Of course not! My point was, if I talk with somme on a board or at a convention who intoduces themselves as "Dong" from "Dong Content" or something like that, this is who they are, period! Why should I suspect them of hiding anything?


And very smart of you to attempt to equate Search engines with "Scripts that crawl the net and trace what you do online". Once again Shellee, you don't know a fucking thing. The Bullshit guy is not me. You can believe what you want. I once believed that you were a nice lady, but was proven wrong. Sooner or later you will be proven wrong about this too.

You know Shellee... when I posted in this thread I wasn't even responding to you, but once again, you decide to talk about me. Why can't you ignore me? You must have the hugest fucking hard-on for me or something. This thread is about real names or fake names, and who cares about those names. All I said was that I did not care who used a real name or a fake name here.

You have been in this business for exactly 1 year now (by your own admission too). In that 1 year, you have proclaimed yourself to be an expert on everything. You have at least 10 domain names on your business card and will tell anyone who can stand listening to you talk that each of these are a success when in fact each one is a complete failure. Each of your websites have been nothing but placeholders at best.

You brag, brag and brag some more. You try to make everyone around you who you think has less money than you can get from your husband, feel like shit. You know what? It doesn’t work. We just feel sorry for you.

Your life must be empty because you seem to have a very desperate need to fill in some gaps in your life. You seem to work so hard to try to get people to take you seriously, and to consider you as someone who is an EXPERT in this industry and therefore deserves respect. You work much harder TELLING people how good you are at everything instead of actually becoming good at it. You desperately want people to listen to you when in fact you have nothing interesting to say. You have not "been here, done that", Shellee, but you really want people to think that you have. And when you can’t create an idea on your own, you attempt to steal others ideas and make them yours.

Lets talk about idea theft for a moment. We run a a chat studio and offer to help train our customers who have their own chat studios, FOR FREE. We have been running LiveCamNetwork.com for a while now and we have learned a couple of things. These things we share with our customers. Things like the importance of performers to talk to customers by voice, to look into the camera, to be fun and flirty. These are by no means secrets, but they are important I would say, right? This plus all kinds of other things is what we have learned, and turned into a manual for performers written by LCN Girls AVA, and KEDRA.

Well, when you, Gasbag Shellee Hale, read our manual and talked to the writers of that manual, Kedra and Ava (2 of the best converters by the way), you decided that you were now so much of a fucking EXPERT on what it took to run a successful chat studio the idea that you turned it into a website at http://www.Chatterboxtraining.com, where YOU offer to CONSULT and TRAIN Chat girls for a FEE!. WHAT A FUCKING JOKE! Who the fuck are you now? You're a fucking expert just because you read OUR manual? Who the fuck is going to pay YOU to train them how to chat? Have you ever done an adult chat before (God I hope not!) And do you honestly think that just because a girl is "Certified by Shellee Hale" that she is now some kind of Expert on chatting? Oh wait! This is the great old Shellee Hale! When you fart the whole Internet stinks of it!.

Not only did you steal Ava’s content and attempt to make it your own, but you also took Kedra’s idea when she wanted to start a Content / Chat model seminar at the Qwebec Expo. Here’s a little surprise for you, Shellee, a part of that idea belonged to a good friend of yours too. Bet you didn’t know you were fucking several people over at once, did you?

Shall I mention the stolen content that appeared on your site for a while? How about when I asked you for 3 months to remove pictures of LCN Girl Alexxia that you had on your site because not only had she quit the biz and was no longer chatting (thereby promoting someone who didn't even chat on your website), but you did not even have the rights to display her image? You, the Fucking Expert in Everything that you are, either didn't know how to remove a simple picture, or didn't give a fuck that you had no model release for those pictures in the first place and figured yourself to be such an expert that you could use them anyway. And even worse, that same girl who's images you were using without her permission was the same one who had helped you many times on the phone. Way to stab someone in the back, Shellee. Fuck are you lame.


Let's talk about some other Stolen content. Remember when you jumped in an proclaimed yourself to be a LEGAL EXPERT ON CONTENT and gave the WRONG FUCKING ADVICE on Ynot to a friend of yours who was using content without permission? Your fucking SHIT ADVICE caused the shutdown of your friend’s website, 2 DMCA's, and threat of legal action when all that was necessary was the simple removal of a couple of pictures. Nice going, Shellee Hale. If you give this kind of advice to your friends, I wonder why kind of advice you give your customers (or god - Life-Coach-ee's)?

Someone (I won't say who, but trust me you know who it is) described you as a "bored housewife who seems to be suffering big time from empty nest syndrome". Maybe things are so quiet for you now that you have become so desperate for attention that you make fucking sure (a) that everyone knows you have money (for what? So people will respect you?), (b), that are an expert on everything (for what? So people will think you’re smart?), (c) that you name-drop endlessly (for what? So people will think that you’re “connected”?.

I mean Jesus Christ give us all a break! I know some rich people, I know some politicians, a couple of Rock Stars, and even an actress or two. Do I brag? No! Do I name drop? No!! You know why? Because not only does nobody gives a god-fucking-damn, but I don't feel the need to have to prove what a big cock I have to everyone I meet! I don't feel the need to push everyone "Down" just so I can feel like a BIGSHOT. “I live near Ted Turner! My husband works at Google! I’m Ex Microsoft! I’m a close friend of Hugh Hefner! Bill and I are buds! I’m this! I’m that! I’m friends with everyone! I voted for Bush!! Why won’t you take me seriously? Whaaaa!”.


(And for the record, I'm proud of my 2 inch penis!)

Here's a hint, Shellee. Braggers and name-droppers are insecure little pissants, and everyone can see people like this coming a mile away. You know all those people you've bragged to and name-dropped to? They know you're insecure now. Don't forget that.

You have gone from an "Expert" in people's personal issues, to an "Expert" in the adult industry. Yeah, ok, sure. One of your "Life Coach" sites out there lists you as an expert in Relationship advice, Relationship coach, Personal coach, Home and family". Tell me, Shellee, when did you find the time to become an EXPERT in adult? Or an EXPERT in Technology? Or an EXPERT in law? or an EXPERT in Chatting? Or an EXPERT in traffic? Or an EXPERT in Content?

Oh wait! Now you're an EXPERT at Internet Security, and have an incredible need to tell everyone this too. You spent at least $15,000 promoting Pornafia (wow your husband must love you to keep wasting his money like that!), After 3 months in operation, it has exactly 39 Members. 39!!! It has 319 threads and 424 posts. From who? FROM YOU!!!!!! THEY ARE ALL FROM FUCKING YOU!!!

You know why no one else posts? Why you have no members? Because no one likes to listen to a self-important pompous ass TALK and TALK and TALK!

You love to listen to your fucking self talk so fucking much that you posted over 400 Messages on your own site!!! How PATHETIC is that?? It gets worse! I see that you are now trying to sell advertising on that site. Someone told me that the minimum buy in is $500 a pop.

Here’s some numbers for you Shellee (All provable, sweetheart!)
.

• - You have only 39 Members. Wow, that $15k was well spent! Way to go, EXPERT! Where's the proof? You say so on your website!

• - Your site is has an Alexa ranking of 4,892,454 ! (For comparison's sake, Oprano is 94,561, while GFY is an incredible 4097). Need Proof? Go to http://www.alexa.com and check for yourself. You know what this means, don't you, expert?

So tell me, who the fuck is going to spend $500 to advertise on a website with these kinds of numbers? GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK!

Let’s talk about the unfortunate time we were doing business with you. While you were blaming us for your miserable failure running a chat site Shellee, Our entire team here was desperately trying to tell you the mistakes you were making with your sites, but your head was so fucking full of your own bullshit that you simply had no room to listen to anyone else who's ideas or suggestions contradicted your own. Remember that girl who hired to chat for you who told YOUR customers to either "pay me or fuck off"? Wow, good sales girl she was. She was the same Florida Prostitute who was stealing YOUR customers! Your website page pictures of hot cute girls all over it (the promise), but what you delivered was this big fat slob of a girl who just sat there, ate a fucking sloppy Big Mac on camera, and then gave away her personal address on camera and invited guys to come fuck a fat fold in her gut for $200! I called you late that night to tell you that your performer was breaking the law, breaking our own policies, breaking YOUR own policies, and stealing your customers by asking to be paid by Paypal. What did you do? You ARGUED with me on that one too. Brilliant Shellee, Just brilliant. The state of Florida takes the crime of prostitution pretty seriously, or didn't you know that?


And lets not forget the Old Fat Guys you were trying to offer on your Male / Buff / Cut chat site. We tried very hard to explain the concept of NICHE to you. There is nothing wrong with BBW’s or BEAR content, but you can’t promise Slim / Fit Men and Women as content but deliver the opposite. Greg “Media Guy” Jones tried to explain this to you as well but you just blew him off despite his obvious industry smarts.

Shellee we tried so hard to help you but you threw it all in our faces again and again. You're own "expertise" caused your downfall with ALL of your sites, Shellee. The sooner you take responsibility for your own actions - the sooner you admit to yourself that you're not an expert in all things in the universe, the sooner you begin to listen to others instead of yourself - you may begin to do something.

So listen, Shellee, enough is enough. Stop trying to prove what an expert you are at, ok? Maybe you did a good job raising your kids, I don't know, and I don't care. Stop telling ME how to run my business, and stop telling others what you THINK you know about us (or anyone else). It was cute before but now it's just fucking embarrassing. Stop telling the world that you have PROOF of things like Kedra jumping ship (Wow how embarrassing was that for you! We’re still waiting for your proof on that one! Keep the word KIDS out of your adult site. Don't steal any more of our content or ideas.

(And you really need to stop name - dropping (Whoopee! You live on the same street as Turner! Big fucking deal!). You know why? Because the next time you name-drop to someone, they will remember my little rant here, and they may distrust what you just said. Even worse, you will remember my little rant here too, and when you name drop, you’ll stumble over your words, and sound like an even bigger FAKE than you are now.

Try to do something more creative with your time before you get all bent out of shape obsessing over me before you have a heart attack. Stop insulting me, me, my company, my friends, my employees or even the LCN girls all you want now. You are not worth my time or consideration. Just remember one thing, Shellee. We make a single product, LiveCamnetwork. I am very proud of my company, the people that work here, and the product. LiveCamnetwork is all I have done for many years now and it works well when IN THE HANDS OF SOMEONE WHO KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE DOING WHEN IT COMES TO MODELS AND TRAFFIC.

Cheers!

[Toby]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

Shellee,

...blah blah blah...

Cheers!

Holy Sheep Shit Batman! WTF was all that? You really need to find a hobby to occupy your free time.

[2MuchMark]

I know!!! God I need a life....



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[softball]

You have been in this business for exactly 1 year now (by your own admission too). In that 1 year, you have proclaimed yourself to be an expert on everything. You have at least 10 domain names on your business card and will tell anyone who can stand listening to you talk that each of these are a success when in fact each one is a complete failure. Each of your websites have been nothing but placeholders at best.

Is this true? You have been in the business for one year?

[Nymph]

Originally Posted by Toby

Holy Sheep Shit Batman! WTF was all that?

This looks like it could go on for awhile...I'll share with ya Toby

[2MuchMark]

When she came to us last year, she told me she was brand new, and "green". And, in another post in this thread, she says she's 45, and then says

When I entered this business I was into the second half of my life (if I live to be 90)

So um, Happy 46th birthday!

Anyway,

ESEnterprises.com : Created on: 23-Oct-07
ChatterboxTraining.com: Created on: 19-May-07
4realgirls.com: Creation Date: 28-apr-2007
adultfantasycam.com: Created on: 21-Apr-07 (Yet another FlirtForFree redirect. Zzzz)

It goes on...

m

[softball]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

When she came to us last year, she told me she was brand new, and "green". And, in another post in this thread, she says she's 45, and then says



So um, Happy 46th birthday!

Wow.....you never know on boards. Some dwarfs walk tall and some giants just well.......carry a big stick.....lol.
BTW, I have never lived near Ted Turner....and just for old time sake kiddies....but it is true, I did have lunch with him. OK, Trev et al...i know Peaches finally crashed....but unleash hell.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by Nymph

This looks like it could go on for awhile...I'll share with ya Toby

Hi Nymph,

Nah, it won't... I'm so tired of Shellee Hale you have no idea. I'll leave this thread with the following:

Shellee, go ahead and post whatever you want now. I've said my piece. Goodbye, goodluck, whatever.

m

[Sexyteaser]

Well, Mark Prince...

Do you feel better getting that all off your chest? Does it piss you off that some "lowly housewife" finally caught on to your scam and called you out?

Your good friend Michel Plante designed the site you commented on and if anyone stole images or content it was him not me; so - take your beef there. How nice to call your best friend Michael Plante a thief.

Toby - dont you think an honest man would not spend so much time belittling a newbie, making up stories and trolling boards to talk about me unless he is desperately attempting to save face.

When I started this business I had not worked in 10 years and did not have to, but I wanted to - I wanted the challenge and to learn something new. You all can take a look at the projects and sites we have worked on the last 9 months and if anyone wants to comment on the comparison to their first nine months then lets do apples to apples.

[softball]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

Hi Nymph,

Nah, it won't... I'm so tired of Shellee Hale you have no idea. I'll leave this thread with the following:

Shellee, go ahead and post whatever you want now. I've said my piece. Goodbye, goodluck, whatever.

m

Don't go Mark. This is the best thread on Oprano in....well....awhile anyway. Their must be a certain pride in ownership.

[Mediaguy]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

Is this true? You have been in the business for one year?

Shellee's been in this business less than a year.

Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: SEXYTEASER.COM
Created on: 20-Apr-07
Expires on: 20-Apr-09
Last Updated on: 26-Dec-07

That was her first adult domain and she asked us if she should register it... I said yes, and that was the last advice she took...

[softball]

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr.../oprano.com?q=

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by Shelleehale

Well, Mark Prince...

Your good friend Michel Plante designed the site you commented on and if anyone stole images or content it was him not me; so - take your beef there. How nice to call your best friend Michael Plante a thief. .

Um, no Shelle.. nice try at deflecting once again though. Good luck with that.

[softball]

I see that Shelee was a contributor to the Bush Cheney campaign. 'nuff said for me.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

Don't go Mark. This is the best thread on Oprano in....well....awhile anyway. Their must be a certain pride in ownership.

Hi Rhet,

Sorry! I didn't mean that I was leaving Oprano (Did Gonzo just slump into his chair and sigh?) I meant that I wasn't going to reply to Shellee's posts anymore. (Which I just did. Dammit!) Oh well. Must...punch..myself..in..the..balls!!! argh.

Cheers!

m

[Sexyteaser]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

When she came to us last year, she told me she was brand new, and "green". And, in another post in this thread, she says she's 45, and then says



So um, Happy 46th birthday!

Anyway,

ESEnterprises.com : Created on: 23-Oct-07
ChatterboxTraining.com: Created on: 19-May-07
4realgirls.com: Creation Date: 28-apr-2007
adultfantasycam.com: Created on: 21-Apr-07 (Yet another FlirtForFree redirect. Zzzz)

It goes on...

m

Mark - if your comments are so credible why would you pick the worst of 20 sites we have? www.esenterprises.com has screen shots and links to all the sites I have put together and are working on - why don't you show us how one of your successful affiliates is promoting you? These i-frames and promotional tools are provided and are proven to work so take your beef up with the affiliate managers for each of the programs we promote if you have a problem.

Absolutely we are using the url's I own and have splash pages etc just to make use of them - I have 286 urls related to adult and there is parked splash pages with links to programs for which I promote on many of them. Why is this a problem for you?

[Toby]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

Must...punch..myself..in..the..balls!!! argh.

Where's Vittoria? She could help you with that.

[Mediaguy]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

Don't go Mark. This is the best thread on Oprano in....well....awhile anyway. Their must be a certain pride in ownership.

Oh My Christ this had me laughing for a few minutes - thank you! - I swear we're not paid or in any way in cahoots with Gonzo btw,,,

[Sexyteaser]

Originally Posted by Mediaguy

Shellee's been in this business less than a year.

Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: SEXYTEASER.COM
Created on: 20-Apr-07
Expires on: 20-Apr-09
Last Updated on: 26-Dec-07

That was her first adult domain and she asked us if she should register it... I said yes, and that was the last advice she took...

I owned that domain before I ever met you or even knew of you.. Fuck off

[softball]

Originally Posted by Toby

Where's Vittoria? She could help you with that.

Ah yes Vittoria. Remember all those girls that were trolling here and promised to stay and contribute and I was a piece of shit for calling them opportunists? But everyone believed them because they were girls showing their tits. Where are they now? Wait till the next convention rolls around and they come back. Sometimes I just can't believe how adult web professionals fall for that shit.....