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Old 02-10-2004   #51
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And be honest Vick, did you have to look up who the new PM is?
Have you checked out the CIA Factbook for Angola yet?
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Americans are inward looking and generally speaking aren't interested in other countries or other cultures. They believe that other countries don't have anything to offer them.

It has nothing to do with how interesting a nation's culture is.

I guarantee that you don't know one leader from Angolia, Zambia, Botswana, Uruguay, Paraguay, or Puerto Rico. Yet these nations have interesting cultures and histories.

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I smell a LOT of America Envy here!!!!!

I'm not worry we're the world's Superpower, and when you're on top everyone is gunning for you.

Just human nature - like monkeys climbing a tree - when you're the top monkey looking down all you see are faces (some smiling) when you're a monkey climbing up all you see are assholes

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I get a laugh whenever I hear someone mention how it's too cold in Canada.
The weather in the coldest parts of Canada that have any significant population isn't much different than that of most of the US north-east. (the most populated parts of the US).

EC - you just proved my point, that cold is effecting you
Can't think properly when the temp doesn't get above freezing for weeks at a time

Where I live - http://www.weather.com/outlook/drivi.../monthly/21075
January High temp average of 41F

Montreal
http://www.weather.com/outlook/trave...01?from=search
January High temp average of 21F

and that's before we get to snow fall, permafrost etc ......
Truthfully all the Canadians I've had the pleasure to meet in person are great people, nice, intelligent

We just have a little rub back and forth about politics
Give us a real common enemy and see how fast that disappears

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I smell a LOT of America Envy here!!!!!
What are we non-Americans envious of exactly?
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Chris what do you think would happen if we had a silent.. do notihing.. passive president in office right now???? would he/she be up for relection?

maybe worry about your own PM.. and why he is not making news worthy events... I see the Brits, French, Japanese.. etc.. in the news all of the time.. but never the Canadian PM.. maybe hes slacking???
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Vick what did you want me to reply about on that weather issue?
41... 21... close enough I think!

We're not talking about sunny & 78 all year round here. lol
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Chris what do you think would happen if we had a silent.. do notihing.. passive president in office right now???? would he/she be up for relection?

maybe worry about your own PM.. and why he is not making news worthy events... I see the Brits, French, Japanese.. etc.. in the news all of the time.. but never the Canadian PM.. maybe hes slacking???
Naa... he's new, and hasn't done a whole lot of publicity quite yet but all us Canadians know him very well. He has done a wonderful job as our Minister of Finance under Jean Chretien for years. I'm sure he isn't slacking.

You misunderstand our bitching. We (as collective Canadians) generally prefer a [D] president for our neighbour to the south.
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Vick what did you want me to reply about on that weather issue?
41... 21... close enough I think!

We're not talking about sunny & 78 all year round here. lol
world of difference - see that cold weather effects thinking :P

41 and 21 aren't in the same neighborhood, plus snow and permafrost
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"I smell a LOT of America Envy here!!!!!"


Nope. You could not get me to live in the United States. I prefer the freedom I have here and in England. This thread, interesting as it is, just reinforces my opinion. I am probably older than most who post here and have had the pleasure of talking directly and in person with American house speakers, Governors, congressmen, mayors or your largest cities, and travelled with your secretary of state. In fact I have even spent a couple of hours with one of your presidents and his wife. My opinion has been formed from experience. I have seen your forces in action and seen your battleships let off broadsides and I have seen dead marines killed by stupidity. I don't shoot from the hip when I say that the US has entered a very dangerous time in its history.
This kind of beligerence will do you no good when the shit hits the fan.
Mike, do not make the mistake of confusing advice and observance for whining. That will do you no good. You might do well to listen because no country is an island.
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"I smell a LOT of America Envy here!!!!!"


Nope. You could not get me to live in the United States. I prefer the freedom I have here and in England. This thread, interesting as it is, just reinforces my opinion. I am probably older than most who post here and have had the pleasure of talking directly and in person with American house speakers, Governors, congressmen, mayors or your largest cities, and travelled with your secretary of state. In fact I have even spent a couple of hours with one of your presidents and his wife. My opinion has been formed from experience. I have seen your forces in action and seen your battleships let off broadsides and I have seen dead marines killed by stupidity. I don't shoot from the hip when I say that the US has entered a very dangerous time in its history.
This kind of beligerence will do you no good when the shit hits the fan.
Mike, do not make the mistake of confusing advice and observance for whining. That will do you no good. You might do well to listen because no country is an island.
Lots of countries are islands. And England is a craphole.
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Hey Joe... I think what Vick is saying, among others, is that it just so happens that right now America is the top country -- economically, politically and militarily.

The US, like any other country who found itself in that position, would do whatever it takes to stay there.

As a result, certain actions have a ripple effect and certain other countries find themselves not aligned with the outcome or risks associated with those actions. That is inevitable.

If France was in the position the US is right now, we would all be speaking of them the same way non-Americans tend to speak about the US.



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Hey Joe... I think what Vick is saying, among others, is that it just so happens that right now America is the top country -- economically, politically and militarily.
I still don't get why I am supposed to be envious.
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The part with the tiny, slow, sputtering cars and the nasty weather.
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If France was in the position the US is right now, we would all be speaking of them the same way non-Americans tend to speak about the US.
And France does have political clout which is why many Americans do speak of them in the same way. Without that political power, no American would have ever made a French joke.
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The part with the tiny, slow, sputtering cars and the nasty weather.
where would that be? Haven't seen that part. Could you be more specific? I personally drive and English car that would blow the doors off most American cars. I haven't seen those tiny, slow sputtering English cars but maybe you were in a corner of the country I have never seen.

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I don't shoot from the hip when I say that the US has entered a very dangerous time in its history.
Are you saying the US has entered an unprecedented period of danger or are you saying that the same old dangers are always out there?

1914 was dangerous. 1929 was dangerous. 1941 was dangerous. 1950 was dangerous. 1962 was dangerous. 1964 was dangerous. 1973 was dangerous.
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I think this is a way more dangerous time for the United States because the world is smaller and virulent and deadly weapons are available to invisible cells who really hate the US. In fact who would have thought two jetliners would be used as deadly weapons and pound NYC so hard? It is not the time for bravado, it is a time for diplomacy which it seems W is not capable of.
So you consider the fact that there are virulent weapons and that the world is smaller and then reason this to be a more dangerous time than the Cuban Missile Crisis where the two nations with thousands of nuclear weapons each came to the brink of war?

You consider "virulent weapons" and a smaller world more dangerous than a world suffering from the Great Depression where the very foundations of capitalism itself were being challenged and questioned?
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Why do they make jokes about Canada?
The Mexicans are being quiet.
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Canada's coffee not bad either. Tim Hourton's rock
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I'm half French/Canadian. Glad to me you.
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Vick what did you want me to reply about on that weather issue?
41... 21... close enough I think!

We're not talking about sunny & 78 all year round here. lol
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Because you don't ever hear about other countries on the TV?
Is this why you don't know one leader from Angolia, Zambia, Botswana, Uruguay, Paraguay, or Puerto Rico? Limited television coverage of these countries and their cultures prevents you from learning about them?
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The fact that we are even having discussion proves that point.
No, it proves you believe it and brought it up. Nothing more. I think it's ridiculous.

Then it all went away? The Cold War ended in 1964? How about the entire period from 1945-1991? Jesus.

We live in tame times compared to most of the past century.
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