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Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Nov 25 2003, 04:24 PM
So did you nick Han's content ,Labret?
What did you do to warrant his goons appearance?
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I was working with a different producer, the one that eventually bailed out the bestiality.com crew and brought about the second wave of post Burger crackdown beast sites. Burger tried to take over the entire beast niche, and did for a brief time. Our issues revolved around his claim to content that was not his and what HE felt would be proper compensation.
Originally posted by Vick@Nov 25 2003, 04:28 PM Show me where anyone referred to the Stooges as Punk Rock before 1975
As I said Punk came about from the Ramones to the Pistols
Iggy is an incredible performer and certainly one of a kind but Punk Started with the Ramones
Say it all you want you have no clue about punk rock, and you laid it down with your first strike.
The ONLY cultural SIGNIFICANCE the Ramones had in punk rock, was they were one of the few who were not influenced by 3 chord blues, a la Chuck Berry the way some were, even admitting that they TRIED to NOT use such riffs or turn arounds.
Again, I won't carry this that far, you obviously do not know anything past what you watched on some VH1 special.
Originally posted by stocktrader23@Nov 25 2003, 04:36 PM
You should send them Vic. I'm sure they'll just love his intellectual insight into the Ramones.
Vicky reminds me of Gilbert Gottfried, I honestly hear his voice when I read Vickys posts.
Originally posted by stocktrader23@Nov 25 2003, 07:36 PM
You should send them Vic. I'm sure they'll just love his intellectual insight into the Ramones.
hmmm....taking pot shots at Oprano founding fathers?
Originally posted by Fletch XXX@Nov 25 2003, 07:33 PM The ONLY cultural SIGNIFICANCE the Ramones had in punk rock, was they were one of the few who were not influenced by 3 chord blues, a la Chuck Berry the way some were, even admitting that they TRIED to NOT use such riffs or turn arounds.
Again, I won't carry this that far, you obviously do not know anything past what you watched on some VH1 special.
You are so far off and lost you couldn't find your way if I drew you a map, gave you a flashlight and pointed you in the right direction
You don't get the lyrics in the Ramones songs, they stayed away from politics for a long time but spoke to cultural issues and were very witty doing it
Who were the Pistols influenced by?
What did Malcom McLearn own that he first made the Pistols to promote?
Again all you're doing is repeating what you've read and heard. I was there, I lived through the time we're discussing
You're really hard to speak with because you're very bullheaded (nice way of saying ignorant fuck)
You can't show where anyone considered Iggy Punk prior to 1975
I haven't see you back up any of your statements
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Vick, you won the bet we made 18 months ago..
you DIDF get me involved in music discussion..
what's next? football???
Labret - now you know ......... and it fits in your studies
Fletch - next time I get to NO if you're around we'll go out and drink and continue this discussion in person
stocktrader23 - I could really go on for pages about the actual cultural/social impact of the Ramones and Punk Rock but I was trying to be brief (didn't suceed)
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Which seems like a weird thing to say about a bunch of guys for whom a show, in 1974 or '75, could be six songs in a quarter of an hour.
The Ramones were also first:
The first band of the mid-'70s New York punk-rock uprising to get a major-label record contract and put an album out; the first to rock the nation on the road and teach the British how noise annoys; the first new American group of the decade to kick the smug, yellow-bellied shit out of a '60s superstar aristocracy running on cocaine-and-caviar autopilot.
And here I had aways thought Punk started with Clint Eastwood....
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Originally posted by Vick@Nov 25 2003, 05:11 PM you can find anything on the internet
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Which seems like a weird thing to say about a bunch of guys for whom a show, in 1974 or '75, could be six songs in a quarter of an hour.
The Ramones were also first:
The first band of the mid-'70s New York punk-rock uprising to get a major-label record contract and put an album out; the first to rock the nation on the road and teach the British how noise annoys; the first new American group of the decade to kick the smug, yellow-bellied shit out of a '60s superstar aristocracy running on cocaine-and-caviar autopilot.
Labret you may be the most ignorant person on the face of the earth
When bested you still try to sidestep and deflect the issue
Why don't you just admit it?
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Although all punk rock bands might be related to each other, some are directly related to The Clash. The most well known bands are: Ramones, Sex Pistols and Rancid. Ramones and Sex Pistols were not influenced by The Clash's sound, since The Clash appeared later in the music scene, but they make part of the roots of punk rock. The first punk rock band is told to be the Ramones. There were other bands that appeared first, but only the Ramones had the punk qualities altogether to become the first one. As Joe Strummer said once, Ramones' first album (released in 1976) was the only punk rock album they had by that time until The Clash and Sex Pistols came.
The Ramones are the first punk rock band. There were other bands, such as the Stooges and the New York Dolls, that came before them and set the stage and aesthetic for punk and bands that immediately followed, such as the Sex Pistols, that made the latent violence of the music more explicit, but the Ramones crystallized the musical ideals of the genre. By cutting rock & roll down to its bare essentials -- four chords, a simple, catchy melody, and irresistably inane lyrics -- speeding up the tempo considerably, the Ramones created something that was rooted in early '60s, pre-Beatles rock & roll and pop but sounded revolutionary.
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"Iggy Pop (b. James Osterberg) formed the Stooges in 1967 after witnessing a Doors concert in Chicago. Adopting the name Iggy Stooge, he rounded up brothers Ron and Scott Asheton (guitar and drums, respectively) and bassist Dave Alexander, and the group debuted at a Halloween concert at the University of Michigan student union in 1967"
"the Stooges were hailed as one of the first punk rock bands, and there was legions of underground groups replicating their sound, as well as several others -- such as Sonic Youth and Mudhoney -- who expanded and updated that sound, making it one of the cornerstones of alternative rock. Meanwhile, the Stooges lived on in countless semi-legal releases and repackagings of live shows, demos and outtakes, all of which were consumed avidly by a still-devoted cult. AMG "
Originally posted by Vick@Nov 25 2003, 04:57 PM
Now go google off something else
does ANYONE use Yahoo any more?
Last post for awhile friends. Laptop is getting packed right after i click send. Look for me sometime between Sunday & Tuesday.
Everyone have a great Thanksgiving, enjoy the gams, stuff yourself, post boring threads (I dont wanna miss anything) and generally connect with those ya love...........as for me, I am gonna do terrible things to my dog with a fork!! (DAMN! kidding PETA, lighten up)
11-25-2003
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