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and of course "toying" with is so much more entertaining and enlightening than viable discussions and discourse regarding interesting matters such as all facets of business, art, history, fine dining, travel, wine, movies, music, literature, world events or even eventful happenings in our lives
Well I guess it does get more page views
I still go with the statement [Labret] needs a Mommy, someone to love him and help him work though his cynical views which may come from deep seated issues
and no he is not intelligent or wise and may never be, at best a little educated perhaps and a little education can be a dangerous thing
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Originally posted by LadyMischief@Nov 23 2003, 09:24 PM Apparently you missed the part where I said it's what you DO about it that makes all the difference?
Yes I did miss where you stated that
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Grogran was totally annoying. Now Labret ... I'm shocked he can cause this many posts in a thread. I neither like nor dislike him.
Probably that is worse than with Grogan ... apathy, I didn't pay any attention to him one way or another, I just don't fucking care. All this thread has done was let me know he exists, and now that I know that .. guess what? Yup, still don't care!
People that join programs for no better reason than they like the piss on the board the program's advertising on are not just lurkers...
They're lemmings. .."
LOL Did I miss something here?
Piss = entertainment = visitors = adviews etc etc
Isnt that the business model ?
Lemmings die !..Im still here despite Gonzos culinary fantasies.
You just came to the party with some points & I really like your most recent post
Carrie ...
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And I tell you with all honesty and the experience of what you are now... this is better. So much better. One day you'll wake up and you'll realize that. All of the money in the world, all of the knowledge in the world... it's nothing when you're alone and lonely.
Thanks, but I'll pass on your OPINION of what is BETTER and stick with my life how it is right now - far from alone and far from lonely Family life ISN'T for everybody, no matter how perfect it is for you
I think parents should stop behaving like they have achieved something special by giving birth & should stop expecting to be congratulated because they buy nappies & take kids to soccer practice when it was their choice to put penis in vagina in the first place ...
I totally agree with this statement
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I think that A LOT of children are accidents and that those parents do their best to pretend that its what they wanted out of life all along and then later in life become resentful towards their children for preventing them from achieving their goals ...
Both of my boys were not planned. So i guess that makes them 'accidents' by some peoples standards. I can say with all honesty that for me, both were happy accidents if accidents at all. & as for being resentful towards children later in life? I cannot comprehend such a thing. There are a lot of people that one could be resentful towards for an unhappy life, but ones own children.............to quote Princess Bride
"INCONCEIVABLE!!"
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I think a lot of people become parents to make up for their own failures & end up creating children who are even more fucked up than they are ...
hahaha spaz<-------------- living proof that this argument is WRONG, at least as far as it applies to me. I was the most fucked up person I knew when my first son was born. I graduated HS, barely, got out of the USMC, and was digging ditches for a living (anyone remember the old saying 'things could be worse. I could be diging ditches for a living.'? well I was. For $4.35 an hour this was 14 years ago). I was uneducated, ignorant, self centered and all in all a complete waste of flesh. waiting to die in an industrial accident or something. The moment my first son was born everything changed. It was a flash. I openly weeped in public. It was overwhelming, that feeling I felt. For the first time in my entire stinking life I knew what responsibility was. It changed me for the better. Did I g on to collegeand better my education? Nope, hard reality was I wouldnt have been able to afford it before my son was born, that certainly didnt change after I had him. But, in a flash I decided that this child would NOT share the same fate as his father. And thus far, he has had the success in school that I never had. And grades are extremely important in this house. I credit my having kids with the successes I have had since his birth because it is the drive I have to provide better for my family that happily inspires me to achieve more. That ditch digger has his days of a 6 firgure income. I dont have that now, but I and my wife (whom I have been married to going on 17 years) are hard at work trying to achieve it again. Not all that easy to do when your only a couple of high school grads surrounded by the 'best & brightest' of their generations, but we dont do so bad.
Kids are not for everyone. Everyone has heard the wicked stepmother routine, or the stoies of people who abuse their kids. If someone truely feels that having children is not for them, then I for one respect that, even if I am unable, due to the positive influences it has had in my life, to understand their descision. But referring to children as a cancer like Labret did. is wrong. I am not angered by what he said, not at all, but I have always viewed anyone whose sole intent is to offend to be an intellectual inferior to myself. & I am a lowly high school grad of the American public school system. Intelligent conversation is meant to enlighten, not anger. Ican passionately debate my point of view without trying to offend the person who disagrees with me. Offending doesnt show intellect, IT shows laziness.
CJ you're right, it's my opinion. I've been on both sides though. It's WAY different when it's your own kids.
I never wanted kids. Hated them. My nickname for them was "small stupid humans". Ooh, what brats they all were. Babies were cute - as long as you could give them back, LOL. I was never going to have one, let alone three.
And then one day it all changed. Maybe it was just Fate looking over my shoulder and keeping me from getting stuck in that first hellhole I was talking about and protecting me until things were right. I dunno.
But it all just changed. It was weird.
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I still go with the statement [Labret] needs a Mommy, someone to love him and help him work though his cynical views which may come from deep seated issues
and no he is not intelligent or wise and may never be, at best a little educated perhaps and a little education can be a dangerous thing
interesting...I wrote about the same thing without reading your post...
There is an old Jewish saying:
if 2 people without talking to each other, say to the third one that he is drunk-
the third one should go to bed and sleep
;-)))
Originally posted by Dravyk@Nov 23 2003, 11:02 PM Grogran was totally annoying. Now Labret ... I'm shocked he can cause this many posts in a thread. I neither like nor dislike him.
Probably that is worse than with Grogan ... apathy, I didn't pay any attention to him one way or another, I just don't fucking care. All this thread has done was let me know he exists, and now that I know that .. guess what? Yup, still don't care!
yeah....very sad indeed....and Drav, I am with you on this one.
Complete indifference is all Labret could squeeze out of me.
Originally posted by [Labret]@Nov 24 2003, 12:41 AM So I am doing my part for humanity. I will not unleash upon the world another fat stupid lazy American.
we ALL are the subjects of our environment and I personally command you for knowing your limitations as a human being and understanding that
"fat stupid lazy Am" is ALL you are capable of bringing into this world...
bravo! at least you are not self indulgent as grogan
;-)))
Complete indifference is all Labret could squeeze out of me.
3 posts all in a row about little ol indifferent me.
You goofy bastard, who are you kidding?
Anywho, I wake up and it is still the same boo hoo'ing that was going on when I went to bed. Its funny, I am still overwhelmingly labeled an unintelligent fool by the Oprano short bus riders association, yet nobody will explain precisely why.
Because I dont like Americans? Because I will call a spade a spade? My dislike for marriage and children? Because my doormat is an Israeli flag?
I ask for debate and all I get is crying. This is all the Oprano literati could come up with? Oprano has really let me down.
Originally posted by [Labret]@Nov 24 2003, 07:35 AM
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Complete indifference is all Labret could squeeze out of me.
3 posts all in a row about little ol indifferent me.
You goofy bastard, who are you kidding?
Anywho, I wake up and it is still the same boo hoo'ing that was going on when I went to bed. Its funny, I am still overwhelmingly labeled an unintelligent fool by the Oprano short bus riders association, yet nobody will explain precisely why.
Because I dont like Americans? Because I will call a spade a spade? My dislike for marriage and children? Because my doormat is an Israeli flag?
I ask for debate and all I get is crying. This is all the Oprano literati could come up with? Oprano has really let me down.
Labret, there is NOTHING to debate about,
like it or not, but USA is a free country,
you can do whaever you like withing the law and what's there to debate?
You wanna be a rebel without the cause and get a rise out of the crowd?
this is kinda hard to do from people who don't give a flying fuck
;-)))
Originally posted by [Labret]@Nov 24 2003, 04:35 AM
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Complete indifference is all Labret could squeeze out of me.
3 posts all in a row about little ol indifferent me.
You goofy bastard, who are you kidding?
Anywho, I wake up and it is still the same boo hoo'ing that was going on when I went to bed. Its funny, I am still overwhelmingly labeled an unintelligent fool by the Oprano short bus riders association, yet nobody will explain precisely why.
Because I dont like Americans? Because I will call a spade a spade? My dislike for marriage and children? Because my doormat is an Israeli flag?
I ask for debate and all I get is crying. This is all the Oprano literati could come up with? Oprano has really let me down.
Your posts, your avatar seem to be designed ti illicit(sp) offense. That is an unintelligent way to state your opinions.
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Oprano literati
Probably closer to Illuminati
State your opinions without name calling and you may possibly pass as someone with an education AND intelligence.
Your posts, your avatar seem to be designed ti illicit(sp) offense. That is an unintelligent way to state your opinions.
Offensive to some, a powerful statement to others. Of course I knew the avatar would get an ugly response from the kneejerk reactionaries. And nothing makes me laugh harder than the bleating of fools who lack the ability to coherently respond to the flood of emotion, Vick for example. The avatar was made for simians like him/her. We study this a lot in soc, its called ethnomethodology.
Nobody with any sense would be offended by it. When I see someone burning a flag I am more inclined to ask them why, not kneejerk. The inability to control that sort of reaction is a sign of lack of intelligence.
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State your opinions without name calling and you may possibly pass as someone with an education AND intelligence.
Sorry, no can do in this instance. The thread started with name calling, it shall end the same way. Like I could have an intelligent debate with Vicky? Cmon now. I spend all day nearly every day in debate, no need to tell me what debate requires. It is all I do.
Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Nov 24 2003, 05:11 AM [Labret], will you post appologies next time you get drunk and let the truth come out, like you did on GFY,
or did you quit drinking?
You must be confusing me with Lord Fletch (PBUH), I am not a drinker. I mean, I do drink, but its been a rather lackluster month for me in the partying department. If I was drunk my posts would be much much more vitriolic.
Apologies? For what? Offending my inferiors? Their very existence offends me. Vick should apologize to me for being alive.
edit, ahhh the GFY thread. You explain to me Russian prison immigration and I will explain that thread. Deal?
Originally posted by [Labret]@Nov 24 2003, 08:18 AM
You must be confusing me with Lord Fletch (PBUH), I am not a drinker. I mean, I do drink, but its been a rather lackluster month for me in the partying department. If I was drunk my posts would be much much more vitriolic.
Apologies? For what? Offending my inferiors? Their very existence offends me. Vick should apologize to me for being alive.
edit, ahhh the GFY thread. You explain to me Russian prison immigration and I will explain that thread. Deal?
ahhh...Mr. Sociologist, can't even get a rise out of Russian...all those years of studying wasted for nothing
;-))
what IS "Russian Prison Immigration"?
is that some thing you learned about in your "college" or the bathroom wall of a truck stop?
;-)))
if you meant CUBAN, I can answer you, but if you truly meant Russian,
]I suggest you chose your sources more careful...bathroom walls are NOT the best sources, son
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[Labret] - there's one thing we agree on
You shouldn't reproduce
You're narrow minded and ignorant. Hiding behind a supposed education and keeping yourself immersed in academia because you can't cope in or with a real world.
As you cry of your supposed superiority you expose your feelings of inferiority
Big man, pig man, ha ha, charade you are
You well heeled big wheel, ha ha, charade you are
And when your hand is on your heart
You're nearly a good laugh
Almost a joker
With your head down in the pig bin
Saying "keep on digging"
Pig stain on your fat chin
What do you hope to find?
When you're down in the pig mine
You're nearly a laugh
You're nearly a laugh
But you're really a cry.
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Originally posted by Vick@Nov 24 2003, 06:14 AM You haven't dealt with the statement any time I made it
Actually I'm not a fan of Pink Floyd but those lyrics fit your board personality well
Now I've got tasks to perform but I'll push your buttons if and when I feel like it
What statement would that be exactly?
I been waiting for two days for some coherent response. Blathering about life and following it up with Floyd lyrics hardly constitute button pushing. You make Amp look skilled.
Originally posted by [Labret]@Nov 24 2003, 08:05 AM The inability to control that sort of reaction is a sign of lack of intelligence.
There is no tie in between emotional response and intelligence level that would back that up. In fact, I believe that you will find that if you compared the emotional ("kneejerk") response of a highly intelligent group against that of a "normal" intelligence group, you will find the more intelligent group to have the stronger emotional "kneejerk" reaction. You will also find a much higher concentration of neuroses and psychoses among the group with the higher intelligence. So, an uncontrollable emotional response ("kneejerk") may actually be a sign of the presence of intelligence.
You're narrow minded and ignorant. Hiding behind a supposed education and keeping yourself immersed in academia because you can't cope in or with a real world.
Fine, I will cover this again. Reading comprehension does not appear to be your strong point. Try and follow along this time.
Immersed in academia because I fear the real world.
As if you have even the slightest inkling what a life in academia requires. Like it is just some fantasy world where we lock ourselves in small rooms with little or no human contact? For the last time, I study people. Psychologists study the mind, physicians study the body, we study culture. How many psychiatrists and physicians you know that do not deal with the subject matter on a daily basis? Why would my field be any different? Does this make any sense at all to you? Would you say that psychiatrists and physicians are just hiding from this "real world" idea that you posit? What is this real world you keep blathering about? And fear the real world? I find your world fascinating, so much so I choose to spend my life studying why it even exists and how and why it functions. Your ignorant ass does not even give these things a second thought, yet I am the one living in fear?
Why even debate what academia is with me when you have absolutely no idea what it even requires? Humor me and tell me what my day involves.
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As you cry of your supposed superiority you expose your feelings of inferiority
I am surrounded by people that dwarf me intellectually on a daily basis. Its the nature of the beast. I do not brow beat them for being smarter than me, instead I strive to be like them and learn from them. I pay a lot for this type of abuse. It makes me stronger. You fear and loathe those smarter than you, I respect them. Inferiority, you know it well.
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Can we hear about your childhood? Were you abandoned or had feeling of abandonment?
Totally boring and uneventfull. Parents married 34 years so far, 2 sisters, no abuse, no drugs. Raised in both a rural and urban environments. Father blue collar shipyard worker, mom a typical housewife. Anything else?
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and one day let's start a new thread just for music discussion
Trust me, if Pink Floyd is the pinnacle for you, you will have no idea what the hell I will even be talking about.
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You've already admitted you're narrow minded
You have no idea just how narrow minded I am. It is staggering.
Originally posted by [Labret]@Nov 24 2003, 09:44 AM
He did have a message board that you spammed all over the place though right? I never did understand the Serge / Anthrax connection. Regardless, I thought I recalled amp on it.
I am taking Vitamin E to help with my memory loss...
what's your poison?
I suggest you join me in 1000 mg daily
;-)))
Originally posted by sarettah@Nov 24 2003, 06:23 AM
There is no tie in between emotional response and intelligence level that would back that up. In fact, I believe that you will find that if you compared the emotional ("kneejerk") response of a highly intelligent group against that of a "normal" intelligence group, you will find the more intelligent group to have the stronger emotional "kneejerk" reaction. You will also find a much higher concentration of neuroses and psychoses among the group with the higher intelligence. So, an uncontrollable emotional response ("kneejerk") may actually be a sign of the presence of intelligence.
"There is no tie in between emotional response and intelligence level that would back that up."
Yet you claim the same thing in reverse without somehow backing it up?
"You will also find a much higher concentration of neuroses and psychoses among the group with the higher intelligence". I think you would probably be more likely to find certain kinds of mental health problems within academia then you would find outside of it. Much the same way there are mental health issues that you probably wont find in academia that you will find prevalent elsewhere.
Also, to lump all of academia into one group is absurd. Comparing people doing graduate work in art history to people doing graduate work in forestry and genetics, you are dealing with two very different crowds.
I think you're the one with a reading comprehension problem, I stated I'm not a fan of Pink Floyd but the lyrics fit your board personality
Funny how you sidestepped the question of feelings of abandonment while giving your childhood background
and you know nothing of "my" world so you would find it fascinating or would you?
For someone with such a supposedly great intellect it's amusing how you can't express yourself without resorting to name calling or using the vernacular of the peasantry
I always found it a shortcoming when one must use profanity to express one's self in an intellegent conversation
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Originally posted by [Labret]@Nov 24 2003, 09:52 AM
Also, to lump all of academia into one group is absurd. Comparing people doing graduate work in art history to people doing graduate work in forestry and genetics, you are dealing with two very different crowds.
..and those 2 crowds have MORE in common than you suggest,
plus...
I haven't seen YOIU backing up your "findings" with anything but retorics...
if you are the BEST what US education system can produce,
it's a pity.
you DO need European Classical Education,
as you make this russki smile with your inadequacies...
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