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Originally posted by Vick@Nov 23 2003, 08:52 AM In fact in you dislike America so much put your money where your mouth is and no longer accept US traffic and no longer take US dollars
I agree
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Originally posted by Vick@Nov 23 2003, 05:58 AM FATPad - reload the page, you're pulling my old avatar from cache memory
The new one is a Turkey Leg (chewed) hanging out of a vagina
I'll never look at thanksgiving dinner again,the same
Originally posted by Vick@Nov 23 2003, 05:52 AM
In fact in you dislike America so much put your money where your mouth is and no longer accept US traffic and no longer take US dollars
This is the most idiotic reply to all america-hater threads there is. IF you dislike someone, you don't take their money? This fucking argument always makes me fucking angry. Of course, that's just my opinion.
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Originally posted by Vick@Nov 23 2003, 07:27 AM But in this case I like to challenge to put money where the mouth is to prove the lack of courage in their convictions
I fail to see your point.
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Originally posted by Vick@Nov 23 2003, 05:52 AM [Labret] - I take serious offensive with your US flag burning avatar
Now you may be trying to express something or making some statement I don't get
While I respect your right to burn the US flag I also reserve the right to plant my foot in your ass for doing so
Many people have served and died for the country, freedoms and other things that flag represents.
Your using that avatar disrespects the past 4 generations of my family along with millions of others
Your using an avatar of the US flag being burned is lacking in respect, distasteful and ignorant
If you have problems with this great nation either work to solve them ..... or get out
and don't tell me you are leaving when ever .... go now....
In fact in you dislike America so much put your money where your mouth is and no longer accept US traffic and no longer take US dollars
LOL Vick, I respect the way you express yourself I really do, But that avatar, although not offensive, makes me wana yack!! LOL guess my stomach is too weak to consider using a turkey leg in quite the same way>
as for Labret, I used to get livid when i saw someone, esp an American who benefits greatly by the rights afforded to them by the mere fact that they are US Citizens, burning any symbol of our freedom. I thought about the blood that paid for our freedoms, I think of the tenacity of our ancestors, and what it took to build this country into what it is. I think of how little respect it takes to do something so offensive to the great Americans of the past.
I used to get livid, now I recognize it for what it is. It is only ignorance and immaturity (irregarless of age). I view it as offensive as someone saying the word nigger. The word itself is powerless. We assign it its power by the affect it has on us personally. So to is the act of burning a flag. It is done to offend. Allowing it to have that effect gives power to the person who wishes that effect. I give them the power to offend (or piss me right the fuck off) by buying into their bullshit. I add credibility to their argument by allowing passions to get the better of me.
As for me, let him keep the avatar, let him revel in its beauty to him. Time will heal his eyes and he will see what he has done, and then it will matter.
spaz - you didn't come off as assholish, not at all
My Great-grandfather served during WWI
My Grandfather served in WWII, he was on the first American ship into Tokyo Bay at the end of WWII, he is an artist and cabinetmaker.
He drew the postmark that was used for all mail coming from that ship. He still has envelopes with the postmark he drew that was printed on them
My Father served in the National Guard
My Brother was one of the last American soldiers at the Berlin Wall
I enjoy the liberties and privileges I have because of their and many others sacrifices
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interestingly enough,
despite the fact that I am only here 24 years,
my family member gave life for America.
I told this story many times..
My grandfather's brother Michael left Russia to Palestine in 1911 because he didn't wanna serve in Russian Army.
In 1914 the WWI started and Ottoman Turks tried to get him into the Turkish Army.
He left his wife and son and went to America. He fell in love with USA and volunteered into US Army and died in Verden in 1918...
I have his round army tag with his serial number...
Vick & Serge, what can be said but 'WOW" honestly. When i read or hear stories of Americans who have served, or gave the Ultimate, its strange. Because as a Former serviceman myself, and as someone who was brought up to love our country. I always feel a special connection with them. A kinship, like they are a member of my family or something. Yes, I am proud to be associated with people like Vicks Grandfather and Serge's Great Uncle and thanks to you guys for sharing them with me.
OK, its a turkey leg on your sig Vick. I've been wondering what that was exactly.
On the subject of flag burning. Isn't that the ultimate expression of a country's freedom? Though I'm not a fan of it, it is a symbolism of and in itself.
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Originally posted by Vick@Nov 23 2003, 09:03 AM It's what the flag stands for, it's not "a piece of cloth"
By disrespecting that symbol you're disrespecting all that has been done, all the sacrifices that have been made. That's wrong in every respect
Well, I don't know about the good old USA but in finland, when the flag gets dirty (touches the ground) it should be burned or buried. Having a fucking dirty, ripped apart flag hanging on your dirty backyard is DISRESPECT. When I was in internext in august, I saw SOO many usa flags that it's not even funny. That's disrespect as well.. showing the fucking flag down in every possible situation. Just my worthless euro 2 cents.
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Originally posted by [Labret]@Nov 23 2003, 03:57 PM shit, how did I miss this thread. I always saw the title and always assumed it was just about turkey neck in vagina.
Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Nov 23 2003, 09:31 AM interestingly enough,
despite the fact that I am only here 24 years,
my family member gave life for America.
I told this story many times..
My grandfather's brother Michael left Russia to Palestine in 1911 because he didn't wanna serve in Russian Army.
In 1914 the WWI started and Ottoman Turks tried to get him into the Turkish Army.
He left his wife and son and went to America. He fell in love with USA and volunteered into US Army and died in Verden in 1918...
I have his round army tag with his serial number...
Funny Serge, we have similar stories...
My great grandfather deserted the Russian army, when they were going
to fight the Sino-Japanese war, and eventually emigrated to America.
He refused to fight a country he'd never heard of...
Originally posted by [Labret]@Nov 23 2003, 03:57 PM shit, how did I miss this thread. I always saw the title and just assumed it was just about turkey neck in vagina.
In response... stop crying, bitch.
I'd say you're an idiot ...
.... but that would be an insult to idiots everywhere
You're afraid of real life so you study it. How amusing, sad and ironic
at 32 it would be hoped you had more sense. At 32 you have the sense and values of a 20 year old
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.... but that would be an insult to idiots everywhere
You're afraid of real life so you study it. How amusing, sad and ironic
at 32 it would be hoped you had more sense. At 32 you have the sense and values of a 20 year old
Please enlighten me. What sense should I have by this age?
I study "life"? I study culture and society on a micro and macro level, art history, and human evolution. I fear something I will eventually receive a phd in? Instead of just being a passive sheap, I choose to understand why people "do the things they do". Its about fear, uh huh.
Seriously, is this is the level of debate I can expect from you?
Originally posted by [Labret]@Nov 23 2003, 05:34 PM Please enlighten me. What sense should I have by this age?
You know you're lost so you ask for help
But you're not worthy nor have the intellect to understand. Nor will I waste my valuable time trying to educate, enlighten and stimulate your little mind
Your words and actions show where your intellect is, that of a 20 year old.
You're a lifelong student afraid of real life (not that all students are afraid of real life, learning is a lifelong passion)
Adiós, don't wait for May to leave the USA
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Originally posted by Vick@Nov 23 2003, 02:40 PM
You know you're lost so you ask for help
But you're not worthy nor have the intellect to understand. Nor will I waste my valuable time trying to educate, enlighten and stimulate your little mind
Your words and actions show where your intellect is, that of a 20 year old.
You're a lifelong student afraid of real life (not that all students are afraid of real life, learning is a lifelong passion)
Adiós, don't wait for May to leave the USA
Real life uh? What might that be? Slow financial and emotional suicide with a wife and kids? A mountain of credit card debt, a shitty job, residing in a cultural and intellectual vacuum with the likes of you?
No thanks, I learn from others mistakes. If I ever end up like that I will consider my life a failure. I do not expect you to understand my way of life. I would love to see you walk a day in my shoes. I spend day in and day out being challenged by some of the best and brightest in their respective fields, and your barely literate ass is going to tell me what life is about and what values I should possess? Do not pretend you have any idea what a life in academia requires.
I live a dream life. I have met very few people who would not kill to be in my position. Young, rich, and highly educated... with no wife and kids dragging me down.
Only a dipshit like you would try and fault a person for getting an education. I suppose I should take my smut money and run around doing blow and banging strippers while I pretend to be a patriot?
You are so severely outclassed it is not even funny.
Originally posted by Vick@Nov 23 2003, 03:04 PM I will echo Nick's sentiments
"You seem to study much and yet have learned nothing."
While you must beat on your chest and proclaim your few interests, I have no need to do the same
And that speaks volumes about us both
You started this thread about me slapdick. You point your finger and make your accusations. Back them up with something more than your uneducated opinion.
If you are not willing to, then what is the point of even starting a thread? I thought you were going to abuse me ala Grogan. Lets have it, I am waiting. So far I am very disappointed.
Originally posted by [Labret]@Nov 23 2003, 02:58 PM
Real life uh? What might that be? Slow financial and emotional suicide with a wife and kids?
I live a dream life. I have met very few people who would not kill to be in my position. Young, rich, and highly educated... with no wife and kids dragging me down.
wow.................that sentiment............difficult to adress.
The best descision I ever made was to be 'dragged down' by my wife and my kids. I happen to think that Einstein, Newton, Sagan & Hawking are the brightest minds in a field I laughingly have a lot of interest in. (laughable because intellectually I am not fit to polish their shoes). They have inspired me throughout my life. Caused me to comprehend things that blow my mind whenever I pause to think of them. Quantum Foam??? Singularities??? Amazing. I am in awe
yet I wouldnt trade an hour with my family for a lifetime with any of those great men (forget that they were/are socially challenged egotists, Brilliant, but assholes none the less. Well the noteable exception of Sagan, he was a nice guy but I digress
Family breeds a full happiness and contentment that I fear you wont experience, or will too late, when you too old to have fun with your son rough housing around, or beating the shit out of your daughters date hah hah Just kidding there.
Did either of you two receive any education outside of highschool?
I cannot believe you are as well educated as you claim , as you have attacked a perceived foe without any knowledge of said foe on the level you attack.
A plan that is probably moronic , certainly unwise and revealing of a flawed thought process rarely found in the higher levels of Educational Institutions.
For all you know I may be the overly educated son of a diplomat (free education I have heard is a perk of the job) who not only travelled extensively but may have attended an elite British School and passed high school at 15 ,I may have been offered a full scholarship at one of the worlds outstanding Universities at 16.
I may also be a high school drop out scraping a bear living submiting to tgps .
The fact is , you have no idea which , if either , is true.
So fuck off. :-)))
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I spend day in and day out being challenged by some of the best and brightest in their respective fields,
PRECISELY the people you find , here , on Oprano.
And I suspect the ones you meet personally share our contempt for you ,your politics and your opinion.
now , fearing repetition of myself , combine sex and travel , and fuck off!
BTW Spaz, how goes the reading with Richard ?? Not surprising
you have an interest that field, since "One" deals with various
aspects of quantum physics... ;-)))
Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Nov 23 2003, 03:31 PM
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Did either of you two receive any education outside of highschool?
For all you know I may be the overly educated son of a diplomat (free education I have heard is a perk of the job) who not only travelled extensively but may have attended an elite British School and passed high school at 15 ,I may have been offered a full scholarship at one of the worlds outstanding Universities at 16.
I may also be a high school drop out scraping a bear living submiting to tgps .
The fact is , you have no idea which , if either , is true.
So fuck off. :-)))
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I spend day in and day out being challenged by some of the best and brightest in their respective fields,
PRECISELY the people you find , here , on Oprano.
And I suspect the ones you meet personally share our contempt for you ,your politics and your opinion.
now , fearing repetition of myself , combine sex and travel , and fuck off!
The fact still remains the both of you have claimed I have "learned nothing" without giving any argument as to what I am supposed to have learned. Leading me to believe that you cannot. And why? Academia is foreign to you. You have zero idea about my fields and what I am supposed to have gleened from them. You bore me.
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I cannot believe you are as well educated as you claim , as you have attacked a perceived foe without any knowledge of said foe on the level you attack.
A plan that is probably moronic , certainly unwise and revealing of a flawed thought process rarely found in the higher levels of Educational Institutions.
Is that some kind of joke? No knowledge of perceived foe? As if either of you have presented any challenge thus far? Yeah, it has been hard to assume you are both idiots.
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PRECISELY the people you find , here , on Oprano.
What?
I suppose if I wanted to learn best how to spam and scam surfers then I am in the right place.
Any other sort of debate has done nothing but left me unsatisfied.
If you guys are considered the best and brightest amongst the pornographers of Oprano... christ.
11-23-2003
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