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Forrest, You should know better. I am paying $8k@ week to models for http://www.privatefriends.com We are still working on the program. IT DOES NOT MAKE ONE DIME. You gave me the numbers of someone for cams. You want a commission? No problem, when I make money you do.
here is my cell phone(like you do not have it-954-336-7222)
I guess I will talk to you...lmk if you need money in a different way.
cj, you band wagon little cunt bitch. Here are the stats yesterday for PG.
Private Gold 83774 41244 301 229 1:180 1:137
Figure them out. Anybody posting about my honesty and my sobriety has no fucking clue. Again, fuck off..or GFY;-)
Take your pick. On another note, here is where I have the license for adult 300 frames per second(tv) delivered through a dialup account.
http://www.icecoldcash.com for those of you that know meand know who built CEN/NetMgt before JB was a cherry popper.... Ed Cherry, Serge, Dean, fm, Colin, DomainKing, Jordan,Meir, Mike Price,Mike WyldeSites,Chris Mallick,Shane Candid,etc... Ask them ;-))
The boards are fun,and their can be buisness, I used to bring the boards to life but my money
You finally took you nose outta the straw long enough to post
should I post your e-mails to me and the ones you sent to Jose cutting me out of the deal I set up??
Yeah he sent me the ones you sent to him behind my back
Joe
yes you did well at cen...But you are a Has been now
Your recent Thefts prove it
and Joee Ill get the money you owe me in another fashion
U fucked the Wrong person this time
have a nice day
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Originally posted by joee@Jun 17 2003, 06:13 AM for those of you that know meand know who built CEN/NetMgt before JB was a cherry popper.... Ed Cherry, Serge, Dean, fm, Colin, DomainKing, Jordan,Meir, Mike Price,Mike WyldeSites,Chris Mallick,Shane Candid,etc... Ask them ;-))
and Im not sure you want serge in that class as he KNOWS how you fucked me and other people
Serge you owe me another lobster for that
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Originally posted by Forest@Jun 17 2003, 09:19 AM JOEEEEE
You finally took you nose outta the straw long enough to post
should I post your e-mails to me and the ones you sent to Jose cutting me out of the deal I set up??
Yeah he sent me the ones you sent to him behind my back
Joe
yes you did well at cen...But you are a Has been now
Your recent Thefts prove it
and Joee Ill get the money you owe me in another fashion
U fucked the Wrong person this time
have a nice day
Forest, I am a witness that Joee doesn't snort cocain,
I spent enough time with him to know
Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Jun 17 2003, 06:31 AM Forest,
I put you 2 together,
but as my predessesor before me,
(I beleive his name was Pilat ;-)
I just wash my hands
;-)))
ok then you owe me lobster for the hell of it then
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As for the recent allegations towards JoeE, I have been making my own inquiries into this matter, talking to a few people, getting their opinions and I just have to draw my own.
I have known Joe since 98, and back when he was running CEN, and there was the problems with AOL, his program getting shut down, anytime there was a problem, he always made it right somehow. Sometimes a little dark cloud hangs over some peoples heads, and its difficult to get that cloud to go away. I have never had a problem with Joe, never been fucked by him, he's always treated me great and back in the day, spent alot of $ at shows so webmasters could have a great time.
Recently I asked him for something, and he was more than happy to oblige.
Some people say he screwed them, I have many more saying that they respect him and they are still doing biz with him without consequence.
Maybe IM to trusting, or whatever, but I give everyone the same chance, and If I get fucked, its my own fault and deal with it if it happens, but I will also step back and determine if it was by accident or intentional.
Forest, I don't know you and wish you no ill will.
JoeE has always been square with me since 1996.
A few years ago in Montreal I got held up going thru customs and my driver ended up leaving. JoeE saw me in the taxi line, had his limo driver turn around and pick me up, and then went about 40 minutes out of his way to drop me off at my hotel (and keep in mind we weren't doing business together at the time...).
Joe's had his ups and downs, but he's good people and I'll have no problem standing up and saying it.
I was a newbie once with no money in my pocket and a tradeshow, I recall Joe introducing himself to me and giving me a hundred dollar bill to play with. I have seen Joe give a homeless man money in the streets of New Orleans so he could eat.
Now as you know inthis industry there is NO honor among thieves.....
I hate to say it but WE ALL OUR THIEVES in one way or another, don't believe me? Look around the mainstream companies- ask them if they understand why some of them get bogus charges on their credit cards, or get spammed with so much porn they cannot handle it- throw in recurrings that most people have no idea about and bingo-
Yes we are all thieves- so Joe did something bad?
I haven't seen exactly what he was accused of....
All I know is when I did something that Joe wanted me to do , he not only took care of me, but I also got paid.....
Or laid.
Forest I gather you are upset- I recall your boasting posts about your sex survior thing with Joe a few years back.
Let's just say this Forest, move on.
This is not worth the fight.
Plus do you think Joe E is scared of YOU?
Joe still is the only guy I know with a G3 ....do you have a G3?
Are you to tell me he has that plane because he rips off content producers such as yourself?
come on man-
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All I know is when I did something that Joe wanted me to do , he not only took care of me, but I also got paid.....
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Joee,
thanks for NEVER asking me to suck your cock.
"I did something that Joe wanted me to do " sounds REAL kinky!
;-))))
JoeE's always been a sweetheart to me, even though I don't fit the "model beauty" type he usually has on his arm.
If someone has a problem with Joe and money, then deal with Joe and money - keep the personal opinions to yourself. Business is business, but people are people. We all have demons (some even use them as a their sig..... ), but there's no need to bring them up when discussing business, IMHO.
Originally posted by Peaches@Jun 17 2003, 04:32 PM JoeE's always been a sweetheart to me, even though I don't fit the "model beauty" type he usually has on his arm.
If someone has a problem with Joe and money, then deal with Joe and money - keep the personal opinions to yourself. Business is business, but people are people. We all have demons (some even use them as a their sig..... ), but there's no need to bring them up when discussing business, IMHO.
Yeah, and especially starting this shit by jacking my thread.
In the 5 years I have been in this business, there have been MANY who have not kept thier word, honored contracts, or just plain screwed with me. JoeE is NOT one of them. Many would surprise you, but bringing the dirty linen to the boards has not been a good way to settle much of anything. There is only one person I have ever badmouthed on the boards.
Joe has always kept his word with me, and there are not many I can say that about. I wish he would get off 'the stuff - and actually I would like to shake him sometimes. But, he has been very generous with both his time and money in the adult community. Even though he gets off track from time to time - he has a Good Heart - and that is an important asset. I wish him well.
I have dealt with Forrest very little - but he has never screwed with me when I did. Although the boards are a good way to vent frustration, I doubt he will get much mileage from them. You have got Joe's attention - so now is a good time to settle this thing (off the boards)
This thread has turned into an attack on forest because he's an easy target, way too easy! JoeE has paid a lot of money to a lot of folks in 6 years so there's lots of brown nosers ready to jump to his defense. Problem is, he's stolen twice as much as he's given.
JoeE, you are a thief, plain and simple. You can get as many of your friends to drop by and defend you as possible, but the simple fact is that you steal and that is why you can afford to be generous to the occasional person who you might want something from in the future. You are so like someone else I know - pretending to be generous when there's a group around, but as soon as you get what you want you fuck those around you. You use your money as a tool to manipulate and take advantage of those who you know won't have the financial power to stand up to you. Give someone free *bleep* and manipulate them into paying for it some how ...
Your private friends site is stolen. The content is stolen. Can you show the 2257 on the content inside the site? I hope the site was worth it, because you fucked a lot of people along the way to get it finished. It must have been cheap to build, being that you took an existing product, didn't pay any of the people who worked on it, then got rid of anyone who you would have had to pay! good job!! be careful of employing programmers without visa's! ;-))))
i always thought you were just a harmless egomaniac, but 'loose canon' comes to mind these days ... good thing you've surrounded yourself with enough paid friends to protect you when you are at your lowest. hope your money doesn't run out
how much money do you owe 'the family' Joe?
Oh, and for those of you suggesting to 'settle this off the boards' and 'not bring this to a public forum' ... do you honestly think that hasn't been tried?!?!??!!? If joe had co-operated when he had the MANY chances this wouldn't have made it to the board - Just like most disputes that end up here.
Joe, you know who i'm talking about (and its nothing to do with forest, i still don't really know what happened there), you know how to fix it - prove me wrong that you aren't a lying stealing good for nothing scumbag and i'll post a public apology withdrawing all of my comments. It really is that easy.
Also, from what I have seen... people have mostly talked about their business dealings with JoeE and not their friendship, in defending him here.
CJ, you should know better than anybody that its not cool to throw general allegations out on a chatboard to take shots at people... lord knows you have had to defend your previous employers enough, and they don't have a lily white reputation.
If you have some facts and want to share them, fine. If not...
06-17-2003
Forrest, You should know better. I am paying $8k@ week to models for http://www.privatefriends.com We are still working on the program. IT DOES NOT MAKE ONE DIME. You gave me the numbers of someone for cams. You want a commission? No problem, when I make money you do. 
I love them BOTH.....But than again I even think nick is kinda cute with his Wanna Be a Crook Act !
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