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It's been awhile, but I see the game remains the same: Iraq, Indonesia, India, and, of course, Israel. And that's only the places starting with I! I don't know what to make of that pattern, but I will advise staying out of Indiana.
I just wanted to let you know how I've been uncomfortably numb for most of the day. I gave an acquaintance a lift to the bus station this sunny morning, and she confided in me that we were attacked because Bush was in the White House. I was speechless. I can only wonder how many others across the world buy into that.
However, I was reminded that Western Civilization blenches the moment it starts treating you like an adult. The moral relativism excuse train pulls into more stations than usual just to make sure your fragile, little self-image is not tarnished. I guess everyday people just find it too incredible that there really are a bunch of international thugs and malcontents on the loose trying to turn back the clock.
I'm going to have to get back to work but just wanted to leave you with one more thought. As far as I can tell, you are the spiritual equivalent of a petulant special education student, and without the equivalent of Reformation you will always be thus.
Drop me a line when you start getting your act together.
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Originally posted by Buff@Sep 11 2003, 01:19 PM However, I was reminded that Western Civilization blenches the moment it starts treating you like an adult. The moral relativism excuse train pulls into more stations than usual just to make sure your fragile, little self-image is not tarnished. I guess everyday people just find it too incredible that there really are a bunch of international thugs and malcontents on the loose trying to turn back the clock.
Something that should have been done years ago ...
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But isn't he a nobel peace prize owner and a legitimate democratically elected leader?
btw - That "talk" is about deporting him rather than eliminating the annoyance. As a matter of fact the talk is about "creating the circumstances needed for the removal of this person who is considered an obstacle for peace".
Now... What happend if instead of Arafat he was called Saddam? Or Bin laden? How many deliberations do you think lets say the US instead of Israel would have before using a 7 TON bomb eliminating the guy, his aids and everyone in a 50miles diameter?
>> I guess everyday people just find it too incredible that there really are a bunch of international thugs and malcontents on the loose trying to turn back the clock.
I must say, I have always been impressed with your distinct articulation in our conversations. The way you ask me to "tap that ass" always has the perfect inunciation of T and P and S
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Originally posted by Buff@Sep 11 2003, 10:19 AM Dear Islam:
It's been awhile, but I see the game remains the same: Iraq, Indonesia, India, and, of course, Israel. And that's only the places starting with I! I don't know what to make of that pattern, but I will advise staying out of Indiana.
I just wanted to let you know how I've been uncomfortably numb for most of the day. I gave an acquaintance a lift to the bus station this sunny morning, and she confided in me that we were attacked because Bush was in the White House. I was speechless. I can only wonder how many others across the world buy into that.
However, I was reminded that Western Civilization blenches the moment it starts treating you like an adult. The moral relativism excuse train pulls into more stations than usual just to make sure your fragile, little self-image is not tarnished. I guess everyday people just find it too incredible that there really are a bunch of international thugs and malcontents on the loose trying to turn back the clock.
I'm going to have to get back to work but just wanted to leave you with one more thought. As far as I can tell, you are the spiritual equivalent of a petulant special education student, and without the equivalent of Reformation you will always be thus.
Drop me a line when you start getting your act together.
Buff
That's quite the blog.
going to have to reread that a few times.
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Why would you want to tell Acacia who your customers are - every month - month after month?
I know I should be flattered that you think so highly of my diction that you actually accused me of plagiarism, but somehow I feel more inclined to rip off your giant, diseased sphincter-flaps and staple them to your ears so you can go as Dumbo with the chicken pox for Halloween than to thank you.
Of course, you could just apologize for being wrong.
Think highly of your diction? Whatever redeeming qualities your little attempt at a psuedo-intellectual rant may have had were rendered null and void instantly when you exposed yourself the mental midget with your opening line, "Dear Islam". The rest of the rant could have been written in crayon for all it mattered. Your "diction"... it doesnt matter how many candy sprinkles you put on a dog turd, its still a dog turd. Yes wonderboy, your amazing analytical and diction skills led me to believe it was plagiarism.
"Oh goody" I thought to myself, another 9th grade theologian.
Let me see if I can explain this to you in a manner in which even you can understand sparky. Lets say that the Church of Jesus Christ Christian Aryan Nations (a christian terrorist group to many), began a campaign of church bombings and selective assassinations. Would it wise of me to open my message board magnum opus with "Dear Christians"? Or would it be absurd to lump Christian Identity in with Catholics, Mormons, Eastern and Western Orthodox, Shakers, Baptists, blah blah blah? I am at least inclined to believe so.
Moral relativism and "reformation". Given the context of both in your brain fart, it is frighteningly evident that your grasp of history and religion is nill, and your concept of the use of moral relativism as an excuse used by some is lacking at best. Might I suggest a trip to the library? While there you should pick up a history book and take a look at what was occurring within Islam around the same exact time Xtians were killing off pagan Europe under the guise of redemption via the second hand words and blood of a dead Jew. Then come back and tell me about reformation.
So now, what was it about your post that dazzled me and led me to believe it was plagiarism? I believe the definition of plagiarism is "taking someone's words or ideas as if they were your own". So yes Jethro, couching the same tired hillbilly rhetoric in pretty pretty prose and pawning it off as your own is indeed plagiarism.
And I dont know what is more tragic. The plagiarism itself, or plagiarizing the ideas of other idiots... and then crossposting it.
Stick to being content, thinking isnt your strong point.
Originally posted by Colin@Sep 15 2003, 05:06 AM Labret,
One thing I don't understand about your post.
Why can't we just kill 'em all?
Killing off Buff and his ilk would have a disasterous effect on the economy and political landscape.
Buff, like most Americans, is a mindless consumer. He eats what he is fed. His identity, his knowledge of history and world politics comes via the flashing idiot box in the corner. And he obviously consumes alot.
What was the immediate response post 9-11? Get back on the planes, buy American, spend money, go back to normal. The economy is hurting, go back to consuming. Dont let the terrorists take your freedom. Your freedom to consume. If you stop consuming, and the economy collapses, the terrorists win. Not only was consumption the solution, it became an American's patriotic duty to consume. Freedom = consumption. Patriotism = consumption. It was partially brilliant yet mostly nauseating. Stick a flag on the minivan bitch, you are American.
Mindless fucking consumers of cultural texts. Gobbling up whatever is put before your face. Utterly oblivious.
Oh how I would love to line up the Buffs of the world and put a single bullet between their eyes. But as much as I hate to admit it, America needs Buff to survive. If we kill off the Buff, malls will cease to exist, entertainment industry would collapse, pulp style mass media... gone. Economy devastated. How do economists rate the health of this country? By looking at how much we consume. The more we consume, the healthier the economy. But the end result of mindless consumption is a soulless lump of phlegm we call an American. Cultureless and inept.
Imagine what our government would look like if they didnt have Buff sheep to lead around?
So go back to consuming you fucking vegetables, your government needs you.
Stick to being content, thinking isnt your strong point.
Looks like he decided to take you on at your strength... using his weaker assets... Time to post your dick pics Labret! only way I can see for you to win from here
(Don't ponder too long before you reply.. wouldn't want anyone to think you had to TRY to out argue some content)
Originally posted by Buff@Sep 11 2003, 10:19 AM Dear Islam:
It's been awhile, but I see the game remains the same: Iraq, Indonesia, India, and, of course, Israel. And that's only the places starting with I! I don't know what to make of that pattern, but I will advise staying out of Indiana.
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Buff
As I posted on GFY ...
that is funny and clever.
Seems there are some pretty decent bloggers over here.
[still lurking ...kinda]
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Why would you want to tell Acacia who your customers are - every month - month after month?
Originally posted by Buff@Sep 15 2003, 11:46 AM funny. A guy who doesn't know that "a lot" is two words (think: public "school")
I would jump in here and have a bit of a go with you over some of the stuff you have stated here Buff but far be it from me to look as if I am in support of Labret in any fashion whatsoever.
However, your denigration of public education is getting a little hard to take. There are some of us here that were not fortunate enough to have rich mommies and daddys to pay for a private education but still somehow managed to come out of the system with some semblance of a mind. Further, there are many stupid idiots running around this world that are the products of private education.
The purpose of education is to teach you how to learn. Those that participate in their education, rather publically funded or privately funded end up with the ability to gather facts and form opinions. Those that do not participate in their education and merely go through the process end up with a bunch of disconnected information that was fed to them by teachers with their own personal agendas.
Now, this was the part which was more tragic than funny. A guy who doesn't know that "a lot" is two words (think: public "school") proclaims that television is my professor -- that I am one of the herded government baaa baaas who reacts with jerked knee in favor of that which Daddy Washington sets before me as my marching orders. This should be patently hysterical to those of you who have read anything I've ever posted here, but it should also be patently discouraging to those of you who have read anything that I've ever posted here: reading comprehension is a thing of the past.
All that because I forgot to put a space between "a" and "lot"?
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So, yes, that's pretty ignorant of Labret; but the obvious hatred he has for his fellow man, especially his fellow Americans and their way of life, explains why he approves of Islam's attempt to destroy our culture.
Destroy our culture. American culture, there is a fucking oxymoron.
I approve of "militant" Islam? Perhaps you could quote me on that? Or has your steady diet of cock and "you are either with us or against us" neo-patriot consumer rhetoric clouded your reading and comprehension abilities?
You are proof enough that America is well on its way to decaying from the inside. Help from an outside source not needed.
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Well, I'm not saying Labret is a lying, idiotic, leftist, douchebag faggot-- I'm just saying that tying me into his anti-consumerism drivel was a serious non sequitur, and also that he might not be a faggot.
Leftist. So everyone that is not a super patriot is a leftist? Pretty strong argument on your behalf that you are not as simple minded as you appear to be. You are right sparky, everything is black and white, left or right.
You either love America or you love the Taliban. Right?
No, you have not been watching very much tv at all have you? From Bill O'reilly's ass to your mouth.
Its funny, at gfy I am the resident anti-semite bigot, here I am gonna be pegged the board lefty by the resident halfwhit. Good stuff.
However, your denigration of public education is getting a little hard to take.
They nevah tot me the diference between alot and a lot.
The vast majority of this country has been educated via the public school system. The very same educational system that built the nation that George W. Buff feels is so fantastic, is shit. Well, according to Buffy anyways.
What's this consumerism neo-con nonsense? What's this blind patriotism? Why do you accuse me of such things? When you pull this stuff out of your ass, do you occasionally grab a homing gerbil by accident?
If you want to build up straw men and throw darts at them, that's your Buff-given right. If you had gone to private school, though, you'd know that I am not a fan of Bush's -- you would know this, because you'd be able to read the plethora of disparaging comments about him (in this very forum, no less) that I've made since his election. But you're just having knee-jerk reactions, because I called out Islam.
I suppose we could continue to play spelling nazi. Err wait, you are the only one playing.
So I am guessing that was your way of dodging pointing out where I am left leaning lover of militant Islam?
Anywho...
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And do me a favor: show me non-militant Islam.
You are a thick one.
Ill try and make this one simple for you as well. Going back to my initial post regarding the generalization of an entire faith for the actions of a particular denomination. I could easily sit here and list off passage after passage from the Torah proving my point that Judaism is rife with images of militant Judaism and anyone who considers the Torah to be the true and inspired word of God must also believe in order to spead the word of Elohim, sometimes it requires genocide. But that would be absurd would it not? For every "Muslim" terrorist group, I could probably name a Christian terrorist group. Should I lump all Xtians in with them? I find it hard to believe that someone as brilliant as yourself would actually sit there and believe that of a faith of a billion plus people, they all want to destroy America. I am no expert on various branches and denominations within Islam, just as there are literally thousands of branches of Judaism and Christianity, but I feel pretty safe in saying that there are no Sufi terrorist groups.
The ARIS 2001 total in Table 1, which shows 1,104,000 Muslim adults, is smaller than the figures in current circulation. Yet it is twice the number reported in the NSRI survey in 1990. Allowing for a sampling error of +/-0.5 percent, the ARIS 2001 figure maybe adjusted upwards to its maximum range of 1.0 percent of all 208 million American adults (see Table 1). With such an adjustment, the total national figure for US Muslims is 2.2 million, giving a total national population (including children) of just under 3 million. By comparison, the CUNY National Survey of Religious Identification 1990 found that 0.3 percent of respondents adhered to Islam.
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The geographical distribution reported in Table 1 is in accordance with expected patterns of residence. Muslim Americans tend to be heavily concentrated in New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, Detroit and Texas
The Muslim Population Riddle
August 30, 2001 by Eric Boehlert Salon.com
How many Muslims are there in America?
The answer to that seemingly straightforward question is proving difficult to answer. And following the events of Sept. 11, attempts to estimate figures have produced palpable friction between Jewish and Muslim advocacy groups, each touting its own population surveys and methodologies, and turning a typically scholarly pursuit into a politically charged one.
The results, says Dave Roozen, director of the Hartford Seminary Institute for Religion Research, is an unprecedented battle between faith groups openly questioning the size of communities.
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Last spring a Muslim-sponsored study, "The Mosque in America: A National Portrait," claimed there were between 6 and 7 million Muslims in America. The report, although part of a larger study of American congregations called "Faith Communities Today" coordinated by Hartford Seminary, was sponsored by the Council on American-Islamic Relations, the Ministry of Imam W. Deen Mohammed, who leads the largest African-American Muslim organizations, and the Islamic Circle of North America.
The study's sometimes startling findings, that the number of Muslims associated with mosques had increased 300 percent since 1994, certainly bolstered the notion that Islam was among the country's fastest-growing religions.
But it also raised eyebrows, particularly within America's Jewish community, which numbers roughly 6 million. As the Baltimore Jewish Times reported last spring, "Jewish leaders worry that this Muslim population surge will generate political influence that could skew U.S. Mideast policy."
In fact, "The Mosque in America" report came just months after Arab and Muslim groups weighed in with their first ever presidential election endorsement, signaling a new political emergence for the group as a sought-after voting block. (The groups endorsed Republican George W. Bush.)
Originally posted by [Labret]@Sep 15 2003, 01:12 PM I suppose we could continue to play spelling nazi. Err wait, you are the only one playing.
So I am guessing that was your way of dodging pointing out where I am left leaning lover of militant Islam?
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And do me a favor: show me non-militant Islam.
You are a thick one.
Ill try and make this one simple for you as well. Going back to my initial post regarding the generalization of an entire faith for the actions of a particular denomination. I could easily sit here and list off passage after passage from the Torah proving my point that Judaism is rife with images of militant Judaism and anyone who considers the Torah to be the true and inspired word of God must also believe in order to spead the word of Elohim, sometimes it requires genocide. But that would be absurd would it not? For every "Muslim" terrorist group, I could probably name a Christian terrorist group. Should I lump all Xtians in with them? I find it hard to believe that someone as brilliant as yourself would actually sit there and believe that of a faith of a billion plus people, they all want to destroy America. I am no expert on various branches and denominations within Islam, just as there are literally thousands of branches of Judaism and Christianity, but I feel pretty safe in saying that there are no Sufi terrorist groups.
So instead of showing me an example of non-militant Islam, you show me an example of militant Christianity? And you think I will take offense or something, because you assume I'm a Christian or a Jew (because you're too stupid to understand that I can call Islam a scourge, a cult of evil, without being a Christian or a Jew).
It's too bad that you're too stupid to follow a bouncing ball, because that rules out letting you work the driving range at the local golf club.
Why don't you add your IQ to your ACT score and tell me if you need to add in your shoe size or not to hit 100.
Thanks, Sarettah, for pointing out that the only place where Islam is marginally peaceful is in the United States. Note that I would have said "in the Western World", but they're not peaceful in France or England.
So instead of showing me an example of non-militant Islam, you show me an example of militant Christianity? And you think I will take offense or something, because you assume I'm a Christian or a Jew (because you're too stupid to understand that I can call Islam a scourge, a cult of evil, without being a Christian or a Jew).
It's too bad that you're too stupid to follow a bouncing ball, because that rules out letting you work the driving range at the local golf club.
Why don't you add your IQ to your ACT score and tell me if you need to add in your shoe size or not to hit 100.
Yeah I guess I was a little naive in believing you could come to a semi logical conclusion. My bad.
Hey jackass, note the fucking Sufi reference. Sufi = Muslim mystics.
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but I feel pretty safe in saying that there are no Sufi terrorist groups.
Now quick go find me some militant sufis that want to destroy America.
Regardless, I have class till 9 pm tonight so take your time slappy.
There are militant members of Islam in France, in England, and in the United States.
That does NOT mean that all of those who practice that faith subscribe to the violent teachings of the funamentalists, any more than the actions of the "Christian" fundamentalists who kill abortion doctors can be used to charactrerize the beliefs of all Christians.
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If this is true, it's incredible. Sufi mysticism is about as far away as you can get in Islam from the doctrines of Osama bin Laden.
To hear that someone who was once Sufi has turned himself into a human bomb is like hearing that a former Anglican nun has bombed an abortion clinic.
"who was once Sufi"
Fucking read your own article jackass instead of jacking the first thing that pops up in google. Fucking google scholar. I am arguing with a god damn search engine.
Find me some god damned organized Sufi hate smacktard. Not a lone wacko that used to belong to a group.
Originally posted by PornoDoggy@Sep 15 2003, 01:51 PM There are militant members of Islam in France, in England, and in the United States.
That does NOT mean that all of those who practice that faith subscribe to the violent teachings of the funamentalists, any more than the actions of the "Christian" fundamentalists who kill abortion doctors can be used to charactrerize the beliefs of all Christians.
Yes, Lot, you can find 10 good Muslims. Of that I have no doubt. Hell, 100 good Muslims. 1000 even. Maybe 10,000. 100,000? Out of what though, 1 billion?
The vast majority of muslims live under theocratic regimes and support the use of terrorism to fight the west.
I did not say, or imply that the only non-militant muslims are in the U.S....
and even the most unreasonable person would have to admit that if even the majority of the estimated 1 billion muslims in the world could be considered militant, then we would be in a lot bigger trouble then we are.
The truth is that a small population of Muslims want to force Isalam down the rest of the world's throats, just as a small population of Christians want to force Christianity down the world's throat.
The vast majority of the world's population are content to believe what they choose to believe and feel that they will have the last laugh in heaven.
In the South Park movie, everybody dying was going to hell because they had the wrong religion. When someone asked, "well what was the right one", they were informed that it was the Mormons......
The truth is that a small population of Muslims want to force Isalam down the rest of the world's throats, just as a small population of Christians want to force Christianity down the world's throat.
What the fuck is Isalam?
Sorry, just had to point it out before Buffy discredited you and insinuated you cant spell because you love scat porn and were sodomized by a Japanese man when you were 9, instead of addressing the issue at hand.
But other than that I just have to say take your common sense and stick it in your ass communist. Go eat some falafel and pray towards Mecca Akbar.
Buff, I'm not going to bite and play a numbers game with you.
Yes, there is a very real threat from Islamic fundamentalists. I don't think that all subscribe to that brand of Islam. You take the simple-minded approach. Not suprising, actually; - it is easier as it deesn't require anything complex, like thought. There are a lot of people who share your approach today - some of them because they are incapable of thought, some of them because it fits very well into whatever particular agenda they are trying to push forward.
The biggest problem I have is that putting something as simple-minded as your point of view into action as policy is the wet dream of the Islamic fundamentalists. Folks like you want us to become the most effective recruiter they have.
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Originally posted by PornoDoggy@Sep 15 2003, 12:08 PM Buff, I'm not going to bite and play a numbers game with you.
Yes, there is a very real threat from Islamic fundamentalists. I don't think that all subscribe to that brand of Islam. You take the simple-minded approach. Not suprising, actually; - it is easier as it deesn't require anything complex, like thought. There are a lot of people who share your approach today - some of them because they are incapable of thought, some of them because it fits very well into whatever particular agenda they are trying to push forward.
The biggest problem I have is that putting something as simple-minded as your point of view into action as policy is the wet dream of the Islamic fundamentalists. Folks like you want us to become the most effective recruiter they have.
Pushaw! Everyone knows that cracking down on entire religious groups has the desired effect.
Look what it did to curb that pesky Christian problem in Rome. Perscuting those Mormons in the early days taught them a lesson. Those god damn Dutch reformers got their asses handed to them, now where are they? And the Jew problem, dont even get me started. Thank God Hitler got that problem under control.
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