Matrix Content Bankrupt?

Hooper · 11-25-2003

I believe that they may be. I can think of no other reason for them to have a hard time paying their debts.

They owe my designer $4000 for referrals and have not paid him. He has referred them more than $32,000USD in new content sales.

They have owed him this money for more than 4 months now and he is continuing to earn money from new referrals, but has only gotten a single check for 500 bucks and now they've started ignoring me.

So like a good friend I called Norm (who imho is as big a dick as they come) and asked him to pay his debts. He decided it would be easier to hang up on me and transfer me to somebody's voicemail.

If he hasnt paid his debt by monday via fedex I'm going to purchase the debt and begin collections.

Unfortunately I am a bit concerned because i think they may be bankrupt, after all, why else would they refuse to pay for their bread and butter?

Winetalk.com · 11-25-2003

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Originally posted by Hooper@Nov 25 2003, 11:27 AM
I believe that they may be. I can think of no other reason for them to have a hard time paying their debts.

They owe my designer $4000 for referrals and have not paid him. He has referred them more than $32,000USD in new content sales.

They have owed him this money for more than 4 months now and he is continuing to earn money from new referrals, but has only gotten a single check for 500 bucks and now they've started ignoring me.

So like a good friend I called Norm (who imho is as big a dick as they come) and asked him to pay his debts. He decided it would be easier to hang up on me and transfer me to somebody's voicemail.

If he hasnt paid his debt by monday via fedex I'm going to purchase the debt and begin collections.

Unfortunately I am a bit concerned because i think they may be bankrupt, after all, why else would they refuse to pay for their bread and butter?

Hooper, all this acacia letters, put lots of heads into a spin and lots of NEW collection techniques were devised...
LMK if you need me to share them with you..
are they in USA?

Sharpie · 11-25-2003

They were one of the companies who settled with Acacia, and was accused of giving out webmaster names. Many have boucotted them. Their business may have suffered lately - bigtime....

Contents sales kinda suck anyway.....

DaveAFX · 11-25-2003

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LMK if you need me to share them with you..
are they in USA?

Will your recently developed techniques work with a mainstream debtor business?

Hooper · 11-25-2003

Matrix is in the usa. It's really a shame, and ya know, i wouldnt even be involved except that by him not paying his debts he forces me to make employee advances

So I guess Norm expects somebody else to pick up the slack when he welches?

He even had the balls to hang up on me. And I was really quite polite with him. Maybe it's that "deer in the headlights" knee jerk reaction.

Winetalk.com · 11-25-2003

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Originally posted by DaveAFX@Nov 25 2003, 11:42 AM

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LMK if you need me to share them with you..
are they in USA?

Will your recently developed techniques work with a mainstream debtor business?

yes...

DaveAFX · 11-25-2003

please do tell...

Winetalk.com · 11-25-2003

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Originally posted by DaveAFX@Nov 25 2003, 11:58 AM
please do tell...

on the phone...too powerful to share and 100% legal

Mike AI · 11-25-2003

The owners of Matrix are Cockholsters!

They gave away webmaster information to Acacia.

What really pissed me off is when webmasters called them on it, and were calling the office they were telling people it was no them, and "possibly DirectNIC".

The are lucky I never could find anything in writing or posted from them about this, because I would have fried them!!

Anyone who does business with them, deserves what they get!!

gonzo · 11-25-2003

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Originally posted by Hooper@Nov 25 2003, 11:42 AM
Matrix is in the usa. It's really a shame, and ya know, i wouldnt even be involved except that by him not paying his debts he forces me to make employee advances

So I guess Norm expects somebody else to pick up the slack when he welches?

He even had the balls to hang up on me. And I was really quite polite with him. Maybe it's that "deer in the headlights" knee jerk reaction.

Hooper...

Did he ask you "Who the Hell Are YOU?"

Hooper · 11-25-2003

hahaha.. no he did not, but i'm sure he doesnt know who I am. We've spent a ton of money with them too, really too bad. They used to be such a good company.

Oh well, time for fresh blood to step up and for places like freshphotos to take the lead i guess. Now if freshphotos would just do auto download!

JR · 11-25-2003

geez you guys.

Hooper, maybe someone "stole" you guys money at the same time someone "stole" their webmaster database. surprised you did not think of that.

... waiting now for the "well... please help us prove it was stolen" post of vindication.

KRL · 11-25-2003

Matrix never did follow through with what they said on that incident did they?

Makes you wonder. . . .

I seriously doubt if anybody is buying content from them after that. I've been inundated with e-mails from them offering content deals.

Mutt · 11-25-2003

Content biz isn't great BUT there is a really nice opportunity for somebody to jump in and do the same content Matrix does - American glamour and pornstar models.

Dravyk · 11-25-2003

Hoop, let's confab. Actually this has nothing to do with Matrix, but it does have to do with collections. I have one company who has been deliquent on their advertising debt to me for quite some time now and while they doesn't ignore me (actually, they do, but one out of five times I get a response eventually) they ALWAYS have another excuse each month on why they haven't paid and I've about had it at this rate. (No, it is no one who posts on this board, and no, I won't say who it is at the moment, but they are no one "big".)

So here I've been debating using a collection agency -- naming them on boards and getting into rows works sometimes, but I've been seriously thinking about using "real world" techniques for a while now. In fact, I was debating about posting this here, and wham, read this thread, so very appopriate.

Btw, there was, about a year and a half ago, a collection service that had a full page ad in AVN print mag. Anyone happen to recall who they were or their contact information?

Last edited by Dravyk at Nov 25 2003, 03:37 PM

Diamond Jim · 11-25-2003

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Originally posted by KRL@Nov 25 2003, 02:03 PM
Matrix never did follow through with what they said on that incident did they?

Makes you wonder. . . .

I seriously doubt if anybody is buying content from them after that. I've been inundated with e-mails from them offering content deals.

Same here...

There was no chance they were going to do anything, for the obvious reasons...

I will never buy anything from them again and will be on the lookout for other incarnations of the same company/people...

Trev · 11-26-2003

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Originally posted by Mutt@Nov 25 2003, 10:18 PM
Content biz isn't great BUT there is a really nice opportunity for somebody to jump in and do the same content Matrix does - American glamour and pornstar models.

I agree 100%

If someone can produce the same quality content as Matrix then they would have my $$$ because I've looked through 50+ content sites and there's only say 5 or 6 that do decent stuff.

I'm not talking Amateur, I'm talking high end American glamour and pornstar models.

Peaches · 11-26-2003

Your sig - lol!

Winetalk.com · 11-26-2003

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Originally posted by Peaches@Nov 26 2003, 10:22 AM
Your sig - lol!

here is my next one:

Trev · 11-26-2003

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Originally posted by Peaches@Nov 26 2003, 05:22 PM
Your sig - lol!

I'm guessing thats for me and my subtle sig

I didn't think it would be noticed.. honest (the Nickatilynx kind of honest lol)

only joking Nick ;-)

gregtx · 11-26-2003

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Originally posted by Hooper@Nov 25 2003, 09:25 AM
hahaha.. no he did not, but i'm sure he doesnt know who I am. We've spent a ton of money with them too, really too bad. They used to be such a good company.

Oh well, time for fresh blood to step up and for places like freshphotos to take the lead i guess. Now if freshphotos would just do auto download!

i'll do auto down load for you hooper

11-25-2003	#1
Hooper Members Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,156	I believe that they may be. I can think of no other reason for them to have a hard time paying their debts. They owe my designer $4000 for referrals and have not paid him. He has referred them more than $32,000USD in new content sales. They have owed him this money for more than 4 months now and he is continuing to earn money from new referrals, but has only gotten a single check for 500 bucks and now they've started ignoring me. So like a good friend I called Norm (who imho is as big a dick as they come) and asked him to pay his debts. He decided it would be easier to hang up on me and transfer me to somebody's voicemail. If he hasnt paid his debt by monday via fedex I'm going to purchase the debt and begin collections. Unfortunately I am a bit concerned because i think they may be bankrupt, after all, why else would they refuse to pay for their bread and butter? __________________ Quickbuck is paying $100 Per trial join.

11-25-2003	#5
Hooper Members Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,156	Matrix is in the usa. It's really a shame, and ya know, i wouldnt even be involved except that by him not paying his debts he forces me to make employee advances So I guess Norm expects somebody else to pick up the slack when he welches? He even had the balls to hang up on me. And I was really quite polite with him. Maybe it's that "deer in the headlights" knee jerk reaction. __________________ Quickbuck is paying $100 Per trial join.

11-25-2003	#9
Mike AI Administrator Want to see your own Advertising Here! Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 11,618	The owners of Matrix are Cockholsters! They gave away webmaster information to Acacia. What really pissed me off is when webmasters called them on it, and were calling the office they were telling people it was no them, and "possibly DirectNIC". The are lucky I never could find anything in writing or posted from them about this, because I would have fried them!! Anyone who does business with them, deserves what they get!! __________________ Make big money on your Domains! Why wait 40 days to get paid with the other guys? Parked.com pays the most for your traffic, and cuts checks twice a month!

11-25-2003	#11
Hooper Members Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,156	hahaha.. no he did not, but i'm sure he doesnt know who I am. We've spent a ton of money with them too, really too bad. They used to be such a good company. Oh well, time for fresh blood to step up and for places like freshphotos to take the lead i guess. Now if freshphotos would just do auto download! __________________ Quickbuck is paying $100 Per trial join.

11-25-2003	#12
JR Members The global leader in pay-per-view AEBN Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: in my chair Posts: 3,320	geez you guys. Hooper, maybe someone "stole" you guys money at the same time someone "stole" their webmaster database. surprised you did not think of that. ... waiting now for the "well... please help us prove it was stolen" post of vindication. __________________

11-25-2003	#3
Sharpie Members Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 747	They were one of the companies who settled with Acacia, and was accused of giving out webmaster names. Many have boucotted them. Their business may have suffered lately - bigtime.... Contents sales kinda suck anyway.....

11-25-2003	#7
DaveAFX Members Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 103	please do tell...

11-25-2003	#13
KRL Members Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 339	Matrix never did follow through with what they said on that incident did they? Makes you wonder. . . . I seriously doubt if anybody is buying content from them after that. I've been inundated with e-mails from them offering content deals. __________________ Quick Buck "Value and buy domains not for what they did yesterday or today, but rather for what they can be built to do in the future."

11-25-2003	#14
Mutt Members Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,087	Content biz isn't great BUT there is a really nice opportunity for somebody to jump in and do the same content Matrix does - American glamour and pornstar models.

11-25-2003	#15
Dravyk Easy Like Sunday Morning Want to see your own Advertising Here! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Behind a couch, somewhere in Philly Posts: 7,628	Hoop, let's confab. Actually this has nothing to do with Matrix, but it does have to do with collections. I have one company who has been deliquent on their advertising debt to me for quite some time now and while they doesn't ignore me (actually, they do, but one out of five times I get a response eventually) they ALWAYS have another excuse each month on why they haven't paid and I've about had it at this rate. (No, it is no one who posts on this board, and no, I won't say who it is at the moment, but they are no one "big".) So here I've been debating using a collection agency -- naming them on boards and getting into rows works sometimes, but I've been seriously thinking about using "real world" techniques for a while now. In fact, I was debating about posting this here, and wham, read this thread, so very appopriate. Btw, there was, about a year and a half ago, a collection service that had a full page ad in AVN print mag. Anyone happen to recall who they were or their contact information? Last edited by Dravyk at Nov 25 2003, 03:37 PM __________________ All Of 'Em Mainstream Webmasters New: WebmasterConventions.com

11-26-2003	#18
Peaches Members Want to see your own Advertising Here! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Hills of N. GA Posts: 10,823	Your sig - lol! __________________ Peaches@onlinebeach.com ICQ# 36734533