DirectNic Demands SlicksNetwork.com Hand Over Model IDs

[LadyMischief]

Originally Posted by sarettah

The thumbs I saw appeared to be prepubescent, I would have put them in the 8 year old area. And I have 2 daughters so I do know the difference between prepubescent and teen.

These did not bring up the instinct of I want to reproduce with that, it brought up the image of anyone who destroys that innocence should be shot and damn, that girl is scared shitless of what that asshole is about to do.

That shit scares me too, I have two little girls. THe stuff I personally saw on slick's sites was never that questionable, what was on his trades was what brought me up short.

My comments on instinct were simply to bring a little perspective to the other argument, about taking older girls and making them look younger. Actual CP itself is sickening, and if it was on Slick's sites he deserves what he gets. Every gallery I saw when I looked in web-archives were from well-known/highly promoted sponsors that are "reputable", however. Please show me the questionable thumbs because I'd be curious to see what sponsors they are promoting.

[LadyMischief]

Originally Posted by sarettah

Yep, which is the reason I don't do much site building anymore. Done right, it can be intensely boring, tedious work and you spend long hours doing it even with tools helping. I used to thumb and crop the images, catalog the sets and images by niche Multi niche actually, (redhead:lesbian:strapon:etc), type (softcore, hardcore), whether they were sponsor provided or purchased, 2257 info, etc, on and on.

And this was to be able to put trustworthy automation in place.

But, if you choose to run tgp or even just do a shit load of galleries and free sites, to do it right is a big job and when you decide you are going to do it is when you should have agreed with yourself to do the work.

There is nothing wrong with attemting to automate and make your job easier, however, it does not remove responsibility.

Old saying from my Navy days: You can delegate authority, you cannt delegate responsibility.

I agree, and that is how *I* run MY ship, however I think having had the experience, you can appreciate why someone would allow automation to remove 95% of the tedious labor from the process.. Some of these networks are massive and just cropping thumbs would be a 5 day a week job for someone. It's not an excuse, but I see WHY people leave these things up to automation.

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by LadyMischief

Please show me the questionable thumbs because I'd be curious to see what sponsors they are promoting.

The only page I looked at was the front of majorpervert. I am not sure how you would get back to what was there at that point.

[Peaches]

I never saw the questionable content on Slick's sites because it personally bothers me so much, that I won't even attempt to view it if even if proves a point.

However, many people FOR Slick and AGAINST DirectNic said there were CP links.

Slick might be making a lot of money doing what he's done. As Shania said "That don't impress me much.". The guy make mistake, after mistake, after mistake. If it runs him out of business, I have no pity for him.

I canceled all of my domains with "teen" in them at least 2 years ago. I removed all the content on my freesites when the 2257 issue was rearing its ugly head. It's possible to make money in this biz without even getting NEAR the edge of the envelope, let alone be over the edge and not even know it - where it seems Slick was.

[LadyMischief]

Originally Posted by Peaches

I never saw the questionable content on Slick's sites because it personally bothers me so much, that I won't even attempt to view it if even if proves a point.

However, many people FOR Slick and AGAINST DirectNic said there were CP links.

Slick might be making a lot of money doing what he's done. As Shania said "That don't impress me much.". The guy make mistake, after mistake, after mistake. If it runs him out of business, I have no pity for him.

I canceled all of my domains with "teen" in them at least 2 years ago. I removed all the content on my freesites when the 2257 issue was rearing its ugly head. It's possible to make money in this biz without even getting NEAR the edge of the envelope, let alone be over the edge and not even know it - where it seems Slick was.

That's great for you, but there are a lot of people who still promote the teen category in a LEGITIMATE way. Would those people not want to know who was doing things wrong and make sure they were blacklisted or they stopped doing business with them? I want to know because it might affect my business, and for no other reason at this point. You guys crucified him for his affiliations saying he should have "checked them" well I like to do the same kind of research, but I prefer to go on what is really there instead of heresay, that's all.

[Peaches]

Originally Posted by LadyMischief

That's great for you, but there are a lot of people who still promote the teen category in a LEGITIMATE way. Would those people not want to know who was doing things wrong and make sure they were blacklisted or they stopped doing business with them? I want to know because it might affect my business, and for no other reason at this point. You guys crucified him for his affiliations saying he should have "checked them" well I like to do the same kind of research, but I prefer to go on what is really there instead of heresay, that's all.

Well, apparently what was there was pretty bad. Per Slick's own post "Then it comes up here and half the board does have a problem with what's on there.".

The Dutch government even blocked access to some of his trades.

Bottom line, IMO, dude didn't check his trades and he was trading with some not-so-nice people who didn't think "teen" meant "over 18".

[LadyMischief]

Originally Posted by Peaches

Well, apparently what was there was pretty bad. Per Slick's own post "Then it comes up here and half the board does have a problem with what's on there.".

The Dutch government even blocked access to some of his trades.

Bottom line, IMO, dude didn't check his trades and he was trading with some not-so-nice people who didn't think "teen" meant "over 18".

I fail to see how his trades are suddenly the issue. I thought he got shut down for questionable content on HIS site? How come HIS sites were pulled and not the trades then? I'm confused?

[Peaches]

Originally Posted by LadyMischief

I fail to see how his trades are suddenly the issue. I thought he got shut down for questionable content on HIS site? How come HIS sites were pulled and not the trades then? I'm confused?

I thought you guys said those thumbnails on his site were delivered to him by his trades?

[TheEnforcer]

Originally Posted by Peaches

I canceled all of my domains with "teen" in them at least 2 years ago. I removed all the content on my freesites when the 2257 issue was rearing its ugly head. It's possible to make money in this biz without even getting NEAR the edge of the envelope, let alone be over the edge and not even know it - where it seems Slick was.

I don't own but a single domain, the one in my sig, and haven't had any content online for years.

[LadyMischief]

Originally Posted by Peaches

I thought you guys said those thumbnails on his site were delivered to him by his trades?

No, the thumnails on his site are dealt with by him.. The "redirects" are the trades, it's part of the skim that's built into tgp trade scripts to promote growth. He's responsible for the thumbs on his sites only, he would have no control over what is on the sites that he trades traffic with.

Peaches, have you ever surfed a TGP?

[softball]

I still say the question here is not the content. That is a total red herring. The issue is how to deal with it. Why are we even discussing the content. If DirectNic had a problem with that, then move the guy out and report him. Easy. However a company run by pornographers has little ethical ground to stand on when it comes to selling teen porn. They would have been the first to scream had they been put out of business for pitching teen girls.

How old do some of these girls look to you?
http://amateurindex.com/

[Toby]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

I still say the question here is not the content. That is a total red herring. The issue is how to deal with it. Why are we even discussing the content...

Exactly! In this particular case we're dealing with teen content, next time it might be gagging blow jobs, or extreme insertions, or whatever else someone decides is "questionable". Do you want your registrar to act as judge and jury? I know I don't, and all the DirectNic customers that are, or will be, moving their sites to other registrars in the next week or so agree with me.

[softball]

What will be interesting is to see how DN deals with a mass exodus, should it occur.

[urb]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

What will be interesting is to see how DN deals with a mass exodus, should it occur.

It would take more than one incident like this for me to move domains away from DirectNic. I have quite a few registered with them and will continue to buy from them.

I can't believe that we have the whole story here.

[spazlabz]

Originally Posted by sarettah

The thumbs I saw appeared to be prepubescent, I would have put them in the 8 year old area. And I have 2 daughters so I do know the difference between prepubescent and teen.

That certainly changes a lot in my opinion. I did not see the thumbs in question because the sites were taken down before I found out about the discussion.

however, as distatseful as that is, it was not DN's place to shut down these sites. it just wasnt. No matter how indignant anyone could become over what was shown on that site DN had a legal course of action it should have taken and didn't.

It appears to be a knee jerk reaction, understandable as it may be, but they are not as rhetorical says Judge, Jurry & Executioner here and should not have tried to become one

By taking the high moral ground they acted like scummy bible thumpers


spaz

[spazlabz]

Originally Posted by urb

It would take more than one incident like this for me to move domains away from DirectNic. I have quite a few registered with them and will continue to buy from them.

Fair enough Urb... how many incidents would it take?


spaz

[LadyMischief]

Originally Posted by spazlabz

That certainly changes a lot in my opinion. I did not see the thumbs in question because the sites were taken down before I found out about the discussion.

however, as distatseful as that is, it was not DN's place to shut down these sites. it just wasnt. No matter how indignant anyone could become over what was shown on that site DN had a legal course of action it should have taken and didn't.

It appears to be a knee jerk reaction, understandable as it may be, but they are not as rhetorical says Judge, Jurry & Executioner here and should not have tried to become one

By taking the high moral ground they acted like scummy bible thumpers


spaz

You can see what was on the site to this day on web-archives. I don't have the url handy but I've been through quite a few of the listings.