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Dude, take a few bong tokes and chill for Chrissake! You DO understand that posting that message in every single thread is pointless, seein' as how I'm sure it'll be deleted out of most, if not all, of them. And rightly so.
If the posts on message boards get your blood up to such a degree, that's something you probably ought to seek counseling for... seriously. |
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01-25-2003
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(money money money <----- for nick, I'm gonna lose serge cause I will definitely be over 5 lines on this one)
Heq.... take a deep breath man..... I don't know if you realize it, but you are burning bridges around here before you even build them... If you want to make money in adult... On the Net, or on the street, one of the best things you can do is NETWORK with folks... The people who post on this and several other boards are composed of many kinds... There are vets making tons of bucks... There are retirees who already made their money and post just because they like passing on knowledge and there are midbies and newbies who will be the sucessful folk of the future.... Your posts show a lot of ignorance of not only how the internet works, but of how marketing works in general... >1. traffic >Converting traffic you mean? Still dependant on others for your life! >I win the point No, you lose... Traffic is the key to all things net and on the street, you can have the best product in the world, but if nobody is seeing it, then nobody is buying it.... So whether it is a store front or a website, if you don't have traffic then you aren't going to make shit for profit.... >2. search engines >Search in google for "Intense NYC Sex DVD" >I win the point! Once again, wrong..... Yes, with that search you come to the top in google (at least until they do the end of January Google dance), but that is on an exact phrase match.. How many people are going to search for that exact phrase? Not many.... When someone types in DVD and you are on top, then you might have something. Just so you know, most folk don't type in phrases in quotes unless they are ego surfing, most people just type in a phrase with no quotes and the search engine parses out the phrase, then evaluates it and presents the results... When you do this with your phrase, your site is nowhere to be found... >3. affiliate programs >THEY ALL SHAVE AND STEAL FROM YOU. As admitted by you all >I win the point! Once again you lose.... Yes shaving does occur, but payments also occur.... If you feel you are being screwed, you move on to another sponsor.. Zero (which is what you get if you dont't do anything) is always worse than 1... So, it doesn't matter if they shave as long as what they pay seems fair to me... You are not ripped off in this world unless you feel ripped off... I will repeat, 1 is always better than zero, whether you are talking money or women.... >chat board marketing >You don't do it - PROVE ME WRONG HERE WITH FACTS Huh, of course she and everyone that posts here does chat board marketing.... once again, it is all about NETWORKING, developing relationships with those in this business who can make you or break you... Even trading barbs with you is marketing... We, the observers get to watch you make a fool of yourself and end up making the determination that we will never do business with someone like this, or else, we observe rational intelligent behaviour and decide, hey this seems like someone I can trust, I wonder what their product looks like. >4. credit card processing >Seems like CCBill is the only one people use - PROVE ME WRONG WITH >FACTS All sorts of billers out there, CCBill is one of many. Yes many folks use CCBill, but I actually associate them in my mind with smaller paysite programs rather than the biggies. Get out, look around, go to paysites, hit that join button, see who they are processing through... hell for that matter just type in Adult Billing in google and take a trip through the 360,000 or so results that come back... >5. content & how it effects bottom line >Right I make you buy >I win the point! Wrong, no point won again.... What do you make any one on this board buy. From what I saw of your site (I am sure you will correct me if I am wrong) you sell dvds to adult consumers, not content for websites (if you sell content licenses, then I do want the 4 dvds you promised me..lol. Webmasters and folks in the adult biz do not typically buy porn videos unless they have a content license with them. Why would they, we see this stuff day in and day out. The folks who you are attacking here serve the same consumer base that you are trying to reach. You can treat them as competition and guarantee they never help you in any way, or you can treat them as potential partners, as folk that potentially control enough traffic, that if you made the right strategic alliances and worked out the a proper affiliate program could easily have changed the $75,000 you made your first year (or first 7 months, or whatever time period) into the 750,000 or 7,500,000 that was mentioned earlier. ************************************************ Some advice, even though you didn't ask for it.... Get your self over to Voltar's place at VNWR.com.... Do not post (your posts wouldn't last 10 minutes and he would ban your ass in an instant if you acted over there like you do here).. Read the newbie tutorials there.... Even do some of them (yes, they are free site and gallery building exercises that you might not be interested in...tough...do em anyway). Learn how the adult business and traffic building and networking work... Once you have mastered the concepts, put them to work for yourself.... Incorporate them into your business plans... Then come back, very humbly, and admit that you don't know everything, that you are not necessarilly smarter than every one else in the world and that even you can learn a new trick or two..... People tend to respect someone a whole lot more when they admit that they are ignorant rather than someone who claims superiority but when they open their mouths prove their ignorance...... nuff said for now..............
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Shit!!!!
I read that whole post, even though money wasn't mentioned!!!! And it was GOOD! 
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haha Nick,
I scrolled up and down, almost as to imagine I was having sex over that post about 20 times deciding if I wanted to read that much. Now Im glad I did, Great Post Sarettah!!! |
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Noone who buys a DVD in a store has any concern for that. Do they? It ISN'T THE SAME BASE... I know from my little experience. Where are the big distributors, I'll check the other board I guess... but how come there aren't prominently advertised here or on ynot, or anywhere else? I respect those who made a lot on the web, I said that eariler to CJ! But do you think you will be able to retire in the future from it? Yes the elders will, they started early. But how will you? Last edited by heqdvd at Jan 25 2003, 04:21 PM |
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Certainly not from paper jewels, a site I remember complimenting you on when you posted on another board for the first time!
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01-25-2003
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Once again... what the fuck......over??
>Interent sites for me are like commercials for the main deal, honey. I assume you meen INHERENT because INTERENT is not a word in my dictionary... but even then the sentence makes no sense to me... and the Honey ??? once again... sarettah=dude...big and ugly and old... >Noone who buys a DVD in a store has any concern for that. Do they? For what? Not sure what part or parts you are addressing. >I respect those who made a lot on the web, I said that eariler to CJ! Then why are you talking to them like they are shit and claiming to be smarter than all of them (for info, a lot of posters on this board are the ones who made a lot of oney early on) >But do you think you will be able to retire in the future from it? >Yes the elders will, they started early. But how will you? I don't give a rats ass if I retire from this or anything else.... I will probably work in some form or another until the day I die... I do not do adult full time, as I have stated many times... I am an Newbie... A DFN Newbie for that matter... I am a programmer who is learning the ins and outs of internet marketing while my wife and I try to build a successful mainstream presence... I try to learn and learn and learn all the time.. The way this is accomplished is using the ears twice as much as the mouth... I listen, experiment and apply.... and the results are good.... You spoke about search engine results earlier, Go to google, type in redheads in stockings (no, you don't need an exact phrase).. Look at the first one...it should be hosted on partyafterdark.com. Now do a whois on partyafterdark.com.... That's mine.... Now, go do a google on strap on dungeon (once again, no quotes needed) look at the top on that, should be on www.strapgirl.com... do a whois on that... once again, who do you see.... In other words, I am learning and learning... I applied the techniques I have learned and thiose are the types of results I am getting (btw, neither of those galleries are over 3 months old, they went to the top immediately) and yes to the rest of the folks, I know it is not good to brag on search engine results, now I will have folks stealing galleries etc... but need to back up what I am saying here... btw, thanx Nick and Voodo, I am honored that a post by me got labeled as good by you 
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No Prob Sarettah, but Im a nobody.
 heqdvd, Here is some free advice. Reputations are made in a moment, Character is built in a lifetime. |
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We are involved in the INTERNET segment of the Adult industry. You need to be looking for distributors among the VIDEO segment, it appears. You might try checking out VSDA, or even AVN (not the Online division, the brick & mortar folks). But I'll tell ya one thing... if you think you've seen some nastiness directed toward you from webmasters, what goes on in the Video end of the business will be the death of you. And webmasters are FAR more tolerant of the sort of behavior you've displayed than any of the Video people would be. "Chewed up & spit out" is a gross understatement. One last comment: in the food chain that is Video, the people who make the MOST money are the distribs, and it ain't because they're benevolent or willing to help others make their fortunes in the business. |
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