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Another really scary weapon related issue is the use of tasers by law enforcement on the public. Tasers are responsible for many deaths/heart damage. The law enforcement agencies here in the states and Canada are too willing to use the supposed "non-lethal" energy weapons unnecessarily on the public imo. These energy weapons are far more lethal (sometimes days after use) than they are admitting. Taser finally lost their first lawsuit for wrongful death.
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Sorry Toby, but when you can explain to me how many people got to work driving their guns or how many people picked up a girl in a bar because they drank their guns or whatnot, this argument is ALWAYS a non-starter. It gets back to my point: Guns have two purposes, kill or threaten to kill. 100% of the use of guns is to inflict pain and suffering. 99.99% of all miles driving in a car (and 99% of all people who have a drink) aren't killers or threatening to kill anyone. it is the same worn out logic as to knives, axes, pens, rope, and about a million other things that can use used to kill someone. The point isn't that they can kill, because all you need to kill are your fists (let's cut everyone's hands off!). The point is that all of those items have good and valid uses that don't involve killing other people. NRA member?
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He probably has the girly .22 with the pink handles in his bra.
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All debate aside. I never have understood why anyone carries a .22 pistol.
Its kind of like a large 2 shot derringer. More of a get off of my gun that youd have to put right up against a thugs head to get his attention. Otherwise youd just piss him off even if you did hit him. I remember when I got that gun we called it the derringer of death. It totally mangles your hand when you fire it. I dont miss those days much. Making less than 30K a year, hanging out in shitty places and working shitty hours. Cops and teachers truely are the most underpaid professionals in the world.
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Gonzo, I think that .22s falls in that category of "threaten to kill". Visibly it is a gun, and for most people, all guns are deadly. It is something to pull out when you want to look way more deadly than you are. Possibly the next step up from a BB gun?
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.22's are the weapon of choice for assassination.
The bullet does a whole lot more damage bouncing around inside of someone then a larger more powerful bullet does by just going right through someone.
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90% of all statistics can be made to say absolutely anything, 50% of the time.
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I suspect that is when the right to bear arms will turn into the right to invade Canada.
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Guys like Emp always consider that as an option. But it is impossible. We have way too many friends. It comes with being reasonable which Emp misinterprets for weakness. Never threaten what you cannot deliver. Just like Emp has been promising his jerk off device for the last ten years and nobody uses it. His ego is writing checks his body can't cash.
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M.A.D. seems to have worked, now didn't it? Not sure Hitler would have stopped for a Beer. Or did you imagine the Japanese wouldn't have come down through Alaska, and invaded Canada, had they not been stopped? Where you going to through beer at them? Fortunately for you, you never had to find out. Your American Neighbors saved your ass.
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It's got to be the cold that makes you think these things, right? Maybe the O2 depravation? I think the best bet is you just stay up there.
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We get it for the asking. Invasion isn't necessary.
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Oh yeah.... and MAD? The jury is still out on that. It is currently still in effect, but if it does fail, and it just might, we won't have to worry about it. You really fire from the hip without a thought about reality, don't you emp. I guess that is why the whole world isn't jerking off in your cow milkers yet.
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I am still pissed that I was banned from Canadian TV. So much for Canadian tolerance. http://www.cbsc.ca/english/decisions/2007/070404.php But I still like Canada. Good bread. No American Cheese, but we can fix that. As for the device, you're absolutely right. Nothing to see here, move along. I'm sure there are much better ways for all you fellas to make money. I encourage you to explore them all.
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And as far as swinging your military dick, I do believe you have never had the privilege of serving. You would never risk your fraidy ass when real hot lead was flying. But hey Smith and Wesson made you a big boy.....not. Its armchair wankers like you that send your kids off to do your dirty work then let them molder in crumbling va hospitals when they meet the misfortune that you never cared to risk. |
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And I'm pretty sure, after 50+ years, we can send the jury home. But then, judging by Canada's Jury system, compared to ours, you may not understand what "Jury is still out," actually means to an American.
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I think you just like to complain about what we do. You should just concentrate on yourself, and stop worrying about what we do. You don't see us bitching about your action, or, should I say, inaction, now do you? How would you feel if the marines landed in Darfur?
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To take pleasure of, and make light of, the killing of our soldiers, and Canada's own, you have clearly shown where your loyalties lie. Talking at you is a waste of screen.
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Rhetoric won't save your sorry ass on this one. Nice try though...sort of. Back to the milking machine. Emp, you crack me up when you fall apart. I see in your profile you consider yourself somewhat of a writer. Perhaps it is time to find a better day job.
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I'm done reading this thread . . . let me know when the movie comes out
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Even the very rare time when you say anything neutral never lasts. Ultimately, you head right over to idiot land. I just have to stop paying attention to you. Gonzo? Is there a way to turn off certain person's comments, as was referred to about GFY's board? It's long past time to turn off rhetoric. I'd really like to do that if possible. The rest of you can deal with him, he's just a waste of time.
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Quite honestly, I never had anything to do with Canada before I was in the adult online biz. (Beyond the odd coin that would show up in my vending machines.) I like Canada just fine, and most Canadians, just not you. And no, my curiosity will NOT get the better of me. I would be quite content to never see another post of yours.
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2 votes in monarchies do not equal one vote in an American Democracy.
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Monarchies?? We don't live in Saudi Arabia or Swaziland!! We're a Commonwealth Realm with the monarch as just a ceremonial figurehead but holding no legal or official status. Actually the US with it's individual head of state is closer to the concept of monarchy that we are. We have a party in power who's leader is the Prime Minister and only holds power for as long as his party allows it. It does keep thing much more democratic and he can't "veto" things or act on his own like your President can. We can also toss him quite easily if we feel he isn't doing his job. We don't need to wait 4 years for that, but can do it whenever we feel he isn't doing the right thing. It is a true democratic process. As has been illustrated by the last seven and a half years, you guys have a dictator who does what he likes, even when it's fully against the will of the majority of the people. I've never really found that to be overly democratic. |
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Unlimited democracy is in the end just as dangerous (and useless) as unlimited socialism.
The right to bear arms is the right to infringe on everyone else's security. But unlimited democracy brings unlimited selfishness, it seems.
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Before anyone goes berserk.....I am pointing out that Emp is a stereotype that is disdained around the world. Britain and Canada have a figure head queen. You, who have no idea about the world, have no idea what I am talking about, though I would assume most here would. I have a feeling you refer to the sixth grade as your senior and you skipped every social studies and geography class the other five years. What ignorant fucking crap. |
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What's all the arguing about over this. I think is basically point of view dependent on your location. I grew up in rural North Dakota. Everyone out there has a gun. We used them for hunting, and protection. I highly doubt you could goto any farm out there was not armed. We took guns as seriously then as we do now and TRAINED people how to use them in hunter safety classes and hands on training. Going to school, I would have to guess that there where at least 50 if not a lot more guns of all types sitting in the parking lot at any given time. Hell, I had 3 in mine. My 20 gauge pump, a 10/22 ruger rifle, and a 12 gauge semi auto. Each gun had a purpose and was use regularly. I personally was never big on hand guns, since they didn't have any real use in hunting etc, but I do have many friends who use them at ranges and such for target practice. Don't be fooled by the guns aren't dangerous people are crap... even in the hands of someone trained to use them, they can still be deadly. I took a 22 in the leg while target shooting with friends (bounced off something) have no idea what really as we where shooting off the top of a wooden fence... Still have the perfect round scar. Could have been much worse though. Today, I stay away from guns for the most part. I still own 3, but they have not been out of their cases in over 20 years. (plus they are stored at my fathers some 1100 miles away). That said, I still plan on getting a new shotgun soon, since I'm moving out to country again and don't want to be out there without some sort of protection if I needed it. The last thing I want is for some fucking meth heads showing up at my front door in the middle of the night without having something to defend myself with. (Course the fact that I have 2 great danes and a coon/dane mix and 2 more Danes on the way, should in theory keep just about any unwelcome person at bay.) My Brindle male is 190 pound of pure muscle and very protective of his yard and I know a lot of people that talk big about guns that would think twice about having HIM go off...
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Gergo, I don't think anyone is denying people the right to have rifles for hunting or similar. You pick it correctly, the issue wasn't that at all, rather the carrying of handguns into the inner city (in this case Washington) where the murder rate is just insane.
One of the biggest mistakes that responsible people make is assuming that everyone else is responsible. It just isn't the case, please consider the number of children that die at the hands of their parents each year for stupid things like leaving them in a hot car or not being bothered to properly take care of them. With the number of "meth heads", gang members, and just generally out of control or irresponsible people, it is amazing only that more people don't get killed with handguns every year. You cannot (reliably) use a handgun for hunting anything except humans. They have little reason to exist, and controlling the flow of handguns while not limiting the generic (apparent) right to bear arms should be maintained. After all, if the government can limit things like automatic machine guns or similar, why is it such a big jump to limit handguns? My thought is the governments should pass a law that says "you have the right to bear arms, but all handguns must be bright pink in color, and must have a loud beeper that goes off every 5 seconds so other people can spot your weapon more easily". Suddenly guns wouldn't be cool.
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Don't get too tightly wound up Danny...I was making a symbolic point to an asshole. And, it of course, sent him spinning. It's just no fun anymore,.....he's too predictable.
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Hey Emp. I have a suggestion. Why don't you do what most bald old men do....get a vette. You get more chicks (you remember them don't you?) than playing Dirty Harry and flashing your pea shooter.
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