Post quality gone to shit - Page 3

gonzo · 03-09-2006

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Originally Posted by sarettah

Not to be too sarcastic, becuse I have heard many really great things about Shemp, but did he expect everybody to go "oh you are so smart" or something. He was talking to people who have been in business as long as he was. They were not disrespectful or really harsh (definitely not harsh by webmaster board standards).

One lesson out of this is you shouldnt talk smack to your benefactor.

Im sure that since he had traffic exchanges running he expected at least common courtesy.

Shemp is one of the nicest and genuine guys in the business. Honestly Sare... I equate this to the kp beatdown you got. Just uncalled for and counter productive all the way around.

That behaviour has gotta change... and thats inclusive of myself!

gonzo · 03-09-2006

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Originally Posted by JR

thanks for the inspiration guys!
http://www.fuckedwebmaster.com/?p=31

BLOGS RULE!

Vick · 03-09-2006

I am the one held (and rightly so) responsible for running Shemp off

What I did was challenge (in no uncertain terms) a business model that has cost this industry MILLIONS of dollars. I don't care how you want to wrap it that's the bottom line

I also personally went and looked and tore apart for public inspection some of Shemps business model

Shemps explanation was he felt he didn't have to explain the right for TGP's to exist as he had already done that

What few know if I offered to try to speak to Shemp and apologize to have him come back (only becasue Gonzo had put effort into getting him here and thought that was a good thing, obviously I was of a different opinion and the other "owner" at the time agreed with me that Shemp was thin skinned about the whole issue)

and what you and I call productive (or fine) traffic might be 2 very different things

If you want to say it go ahead, no need for innuendo

JoesHO · 03-09-2006

How aam I tryng to re write history Sarretah?

Just because I was one of the assholes in the shemp case. does not excuse it.

what about all the others mentioned?

and I am not the one who said Oprano is slow, in fact it is not. we are getting more posters than the previous administration had by a long shot ( some of you call it spam, I call it new blood potential)

Nor am I saying that we are defending anything someone else says, I am telling you the direction we are going to go, period.

again, I dont give a fuck if you think it is bullshit or not, the changes will be made, stay or go. it makes no difference to me . you were gone once and Oprano did not die without you as you already said, and you did not die without Oprano. If yuou like it here then please come by often, if you dont then go wherever you want to.

I want the real businessmen, and the newbies. I think you are niether , but I do enjoy your conversation. you can be pissed or hurt or put aside or whatever . but those are the facts .

gonzo · 03-09-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vick

I am the one held (and rightly so) responsible for running Shemp off

What I did was challenge (in no uncertain terms) a business model that has cost this industry MILLIONS of dollars. I don't care how you want to wrap it that's the bottom line

I also personally went and looked and tore apart for public inspection some of Shemps business model

Shemps explanation was he felt he didn't have to explain the right for TGP's to exist as he had already done that

What few know if I offered to try to speak to Shemp and apologize to have him come back (only becasue Gonzo had put effort into getting him here and thought that was a good thing, obviously I was of a different opinion and the other "owner" at the time agreed with me that Shemp was thin skinned about the whole issue)

and what you and I call productive (or fine) traffic might be 2 very different things

If you want to say it go ahead, no need for innuendo

Do you call 30K a month commission unproductive traffic?
I dont.
Ive never made 30K in my LIFE in one month off of all my sites combined.

Have you? Im really trying to put this in perspective Vick. Cuz I sure as fuck dont understand where your coming from. And no Im not talking about Shemp.

JoesHO · 03-09-2006

Let me clarify, by saying businessmen, I eman the people on the level I mentioned that have decided to not come here in my earlier post, I do not mean you are not in business, sarretah .

Vick · 03-09-2006

Wow so much at once

First off CJ is that really you??!!
How are ya? How's life on the bottom of the world? great to see ya (so to speak)

I reread some of the thread cross refed here and damn I actually discussed business

Gonzo, not sure what you are saying but is 30K a month unproductive? FUCK NO!. -
well maybe if you could have made 500K a month off the same traffic a different way it might be ....
Once again my gift for the obvious shines through

Joesho - while you're opening up the door to kick the old guard out remember
Which of the old guard helped bust your chops when you first came here and you earned your wings and spot here damn it ;-)

If you don't want that here now it's your place and I don't have the time, energy or inclination for it anymore anyway

gonzo · 03-09-2006

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Originally Posted by Vick

Gonzo, not sure what you are saying but is 30K a month unproductive? FUCK NO!. -
well maybe if you could have made 500K a month off the same traffic a different way it might be ....
Once again my gift for the obvious shines through

Damn player. Which site did you make 500K a month off of?

Vick · 03-09-2006

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Originally Posted by gonzo

Damn player. Which site did you make 500K a month off of?

Not me, I just make enough to keep of welfare and take 2 disney vacations a year ;-)

gonzo · 03-09-2006

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Originally Posted by Vick

Not me, I just make enough to keep of welfare and take 2 disney vacations a year ;-)

Once again my gift for the obvious shines through ....

Hahaha and I hear you.
Theres a Kimmy Kim quote I could use here that she told me once but I will refrain!

Business models change...and so does Oprano!

Vick · 03-09-2006

I sincerely hope it works

I guess from the outside looking in the biggest challenge seems to be finding the time for it with everything else you and Joe have going on

gonzo · 03-09-2006

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Originally Posted by Vick

I sincerely hope it works

I guess from the outside looking in the biggest challenge seems to be finding the time for it with everything else you and Joe have going on

Your used to me posting on here a lot. But the challenge has not simply been finding the time but the hook to have new folks stick here as well as the rest of us.

We just arent paying people to post.
You cant hire 4 people thats never ran a board before...call it adultnetsurprise II and expect it to work. Gear is nice but it shouldnt be used to drive posts and traffic with a "points" system.

The folks that have wandered over here from Xpeeps are looking for 2 things.

1. Honest advice on which sponsors to use and some building blocks to help develop a strategy to market them.

2. Some seed traffic to get them started.

While we were pissing I started laying the groundwork for number 2.
And while everyone has been whining I rebuilt GBU.

Check it out http://www.goodbadugly.info

And in addition to housing the press releases we will have some strategies and tutorials in a perm place at http://www.resourceboards.com

That project was set back due to a hosting change and a dropped database. Its was done a month ago but I have to go back and repopulate it.

Jace has been fine tuning the stream and http://www.opranoradio.com has been refitted still using Sister CJ's design. And Im about to go live again in the old slot but this time we call it "Burn" and target everyone as a potential listener. You can hear direct from the surfers what they like and dislike as well as some of the personalities that make up the sites.

So you can see its been a challenge.
Id rather not post about it as much as I have in the past .... just do it.
But I figured since you asked ... Id show off a little.

Dravyk · 03-09-2006

Lordy lordy lordy, what a thread!!

IMHO you're all right. And you're all wrong.

So there. That should pretty much cover it.

gonzo · 03-09-2006

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Originally Posted by Dravyk

Lordy lordy lordy, what a thread!!

IMHO you're all right. And you're all wrong.

So there. That should pretty much cover it.

One thing is for sure Drav.... we wont kick you in the teeth for having an idea!

PornoDoggy · 03-09-2006

Okay, so what we've established is that things are different.

(The subtext, that some people will blow whichever way they think popular opinion wants the wind to blow, has probably been known to anyone with a 3rd grade reading level).

softball · 03-09-2006

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Originally Posted by gonzo

Do you call 30K a month commission unproductive traffic?
I dont.
Ive never made 30K in my LIFE in one month off of all my sites combined.

Have you? Im really trying to put this in perspective Vick. Cuz I sure as fuck dont understand where your coming from. And no Im not talking about Shemp.

Ah the sound of one hand clapping.....
What an entertaining thread. And I thought this was where the big money playas...well...played.

DrGuile · 03-09-2006

It's great that I could come to Oprano this morning and see FHGs of a fat teen showing it all...

I mean, where else could I possibly see that?

Nice work

JoesHO · 03-09-2006

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Originally Posted by DrGuile

It's great that I could come to Oprano this morning and see FHGs of a fat teen showing it all...

I mean, where else could I possibly see that?

Nice work

do you suppose people that build cars for a living ,

bitch when they see cars on the road ?

gonzo · 03-09-2006

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Originally Posted by rhetorical

Ah the sound of one hand clapping.....
What an entertaining thread. And I thought this was where the big money playas...well...played.

Ah the sound of a blow hard who brags all the time about all the cash he makes but wants to keep everything all secret. Why dont you tell us all again how you are at carnivale but posting like mad on webmaster boards.

Better yet why dont you tell us how well your affiliate program is doing?

Maybe Serge wont pick on baby pee pee Graham and run him off so fast this time.

TheEnforcer · 03-09-2006

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Originally Posted by cj

if it weren't for the pink markers that would be a postcard. that looks so beautiful.

but fuck all that snow, if I have to wear more than bikini's its too cold ;-))))

that car is called a CJ7?!
I want one!!!!

Gotta lok at the snow as a reason to get closer to someone to keep em warm dear!!

TheEnforcer · 03-09-2006

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Originally Posted by MonsterPartners

I think you will see that being said on a lot of boards...boards always go through good times and bad times..patience is key

very true.. man.. that's an old program under a newer name there!! I remember Sports Babes, Cheer Girls, etc from WAY back! Nice to have you guys around here!

cj · 03-09-2006

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Originally Posted by TheEnforcer

Gotta lok at the snow as a reason to get closer to someone to keep em warm dear!!

yeah but when its warm ya can drop em and do it right there!!! no blankets required!!!!!

lol

cj · 03-09-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vick

Wow so much at once

First off CJ is that really you??!!
How are ya? How's life on the bottom of the world? great to see ya (so to speak)

its really me ;-)
I figured it was time for my 6 monthly stir up! hehehehhee

Regarding the Shemp situation, we all went oprano on his ass, but honestly that dude had no intention of sharing any real information with us about his business model - just like none of us really did when we were at the top of the food chain.

The food chain moves, and as with every industry but this one more than any, the most important thing is keeping up with changes and staying on top of moving technology. A lot of us made the mistake of thinking things should stay the same, because it worked for us.

And look at it this way ... why would anyone want to answer serious questions about their business to doubters, when he could be getting his ass kissed by morons who don't know any better?

Its the Lensman/GFY principal - better for the ego to be the king, even if it is king of rotting garbage.

softball · 03-09-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by gonzo

Ah the sound of a blow hard who brags all the time about all the cash he makes but wants to keep everything all secret. Why dont you tell us all again how you are at carnivale but posting like mad on webmaster boards.

Better yet why dont you tell us how well your affiliate program is doing?

Maybe Serge wont pick on baby pee pee Graham and run him off so fast this time.

Proggy does well. Thanks for asking. Carnaval is over and I am back on the west coast. FYI, Gonzo, in case you didn't know, they have internet in Brasil and Argentina now. Hell they even have cell phones. Just thought I would keep you au current with modern technology.
As for pee pee stuff, well, that is part of the reason this thread exists....because of those kinds of posts. I don't run away. I just don't want to be part of that childish shit.
I was just surprised at your admission, that is all. I thought you were one of the ones that actually did well on the net.
Good luck and I hope you can pull the board up by its bootstraps. It does have a lot of potential and at least the traffic is now real.

JR · 03-09-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by gonzo

We just arent paying people to post.
You cant hire 4 people thats never ran a board before...call it adultnetsurprise II and expect it to work. Gear is nice but it shouldnt be used to drive posts and traffic with a "points" system.

points subtracted for heresy, blasphemy and sedition.

Dravyk · 03-09-2006

JR, why is your avatar all about a man's butt?

Is there anything you want to get out, er, um, off your chest?

JR · 03-09-2006

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Originally Posted by Dravyk

JR, why is your avatar all about a man's butt?

Is there anything you want to get out, er, um, off your chest?

i play racquetball a lot.

when i first looked at it, i noticed good stroke mechanics... when you looked at an animated gif of a guy with a racquet, a ball and showing him hitting the ball and you only noticed his ass.

weirdo.

gonzo · 03-09-2006

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Originally Posted by rhetorical

Proggy does well. Thanks for asking. Carnaval is over and I am back on the west coast. FYI, Gonzo, in case you didn't know, they have internet in Brasil and Argentina now. Hell they even have cell phones. Just thought I would keep you au current with modern technology.
As for pee pee stuff, well, that is part of the reason this thread exists....because of those kinds of posts. I don't run away. I just don't want to be part of that childish shit.
I was just surprised at your admission, that is all. I thought you were one of the ones that actually did well on the net.
Good luck and I hope you can pull the board up by its bootstraps. It does have a lot of potential and at least the traffic is now real.

Naw man... Ive never said I was an internet player. I made a considerable amount of money in the IT field during the dotcom ramp up.
I had 2 hobbies during that time. Forensic data recovery which starts at $300 an hour and then the adult web on the side. The BBS ended up morphing into a 5 letter domain name.

For me IT was a lot more profitable. Biggest mistake I ever made was having a hard time accepting people would pay for what several of us were extracting for shits and grins out of the newsgroups.

Homegrown BBS and Wild Rose Net were the big shits of the day making money on dialup and translating it to the web. As far as I know they have both kept on keeping on.

Hell Puppy · 03-09-2006

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Originally Posted by Dravyk

Lordy lordy lordy, what a thread!!

IMHO you're all right. And you're all wrong.

So there. That should pretty much cover it.

I just added points for this, but then took them away.

softball · 03-10-2006

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Originally Posted by gonzo

Naw man... Ive never said I was an internet player. I made a considerable amount of money in the IT field during the dotcom ramp up.
I had 2 hobbies during that time. Forensic data recovery which starts at $300 an hour and then the adult web on the side. The BBS ended up morphing into a 5 letter domain name.

For me IT was a lot more profitable. Biggest mistake I ever made was having a hard time accepting people would pay for what several of us were extracting for shits and grins out of the newsgroups.

Homegrown BBS and Wild Rose Net were the big shits of the day making money on dialup and translating it to the web. As far as I know they have both kept on keeping on.

Personally I only do this for money. For shits and giggles, I travel. If you stay focussed on the profit, fun happens. This is a great business and is very profitable. I have been doing it longer than most here and have been through the web board mill as you know. I have to say, the topic of this thread is right on the money. Business happens between friends. The less you pitch it, the more actually happens. If I have to hear Joe Shoe pitch it one more time, you can gag me with a spoon. This place just aint a lot of fun anymore and you cant force folks to have fun. And btw, just to let you know and trust me there is no rancour intended, just passing it on to you, this board is down an awful lot and many times loads really slowly. I have no idea why and I only say this with the best of intentions so you can look into it.

gonzo · 03-10-2006

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Originally Posted by rhetorical

Personally I only do this for money. For shits and giggles, I travel. If you stay focussed on the profit, fun happens. This is a great business and is very profitable. I have been doing it longer than most here and have been through the web board mill as you know. I have to say, the topic of this thread is right on the money. Business happens between friends. The less you pitch it, the more actually happens. If I have to hear Joe Shoe pitch it one more time, you can gag me with a spoon. This place just aint a lot of fun anymore and you cant force folks to have fun. And btw, just to let you know and trust me there is no rancour intended, just passing it on to you, this board is down an awful lot and many times loads really slowly. I have no idea why and I only say this with the best of intentions so you can look into it.

Ill pass that information along to National Net.
I have no problems getting to it but Im up the street from them.

softball · 03-10-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by gonzo

Ill pass that information along to National Net.
I have no problems getting to it but Im up the street from them.

good luck

JoesHO · 03-10-2006

your an idiot Rhetorical. why do you still come around here ?

softball · 03-10-2006

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Originally Posted by JoesHO

your an idiot Rhetorical. why do you still come around here ?

Joe, you are a newcomer to this business. You haven't been around long enough to know what an idiot is. You are still struggling. I only offered some advice. I have watched your machinations over the last year and it is not an impressive show. You might do well to listen more. Or you can keep on believing the sky is not falling.

JoesHO · 03-10-2006

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Originally Posted by rhetorical

Joe, you are a newcomer to this business. You haven't been around long enough to know what an idiot is. You are still struggling. I only offered some advice. I have watched your machinations over the last year and it is not an impressive show. You might do well to listen more. Or you can keep on believing the sky is not falling.

sad thing about you is you are jsut wasted , pisss without any idea of what you talk about.

good luck to you rhetorical, I hope you find a new place to spill your same old song of bullshit .

Jace · 03-10-2006

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Originally Posted by rhetorical

this board is down an awful lot and many times loads really slowly. I have no idea why and I only say this with the best of intentions so you can look into it.

really? I actually haven't had any trouble since they switched it all over to NatNet, in fact the load times have been around twice as fast for me

hey Gonzo, maybe you all should install some sort of monitors on the server just to make sure

gonzo · 03-10-2006

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Originally Posted by Jace

really? I actually haven't had any trouble since they switched it all over to NatNet, in fact the load times have been around twice as fast for me

hey Gonzo, maybe you all should install some sort of monitors on the server just to make sure

Thats the reason you host with NatNet. They take care of all that shit!

Jace · 03-10-2006

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Originally Posted by gonzo

Thats the reason you host with NatNet. They take care of all that shit!

what kind of monitors do you all have set up?

the one I have on my server is sweet, it alerts me and my admin by sms any time there is anything down or non-functional

rhetorical, just out of curiosity, you seem to have a real deep seeded hate for oprano and what it has become, why do you continue to post here? this is a serious question, not a jab in any way

I just don't get it

gonzo · 03-10-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jace

what kind of monitors do you all have set up?

the one I have on my server is sweet, it alerts me and my admin by sms any time there is anything down or non-functional

rhetorical, just out of curiosity, you seem to have a real deep seeded hate for oprano and what it has become, why do you continue to post here? this is a serious question, not a jab in any way

I just don't get it

Thats a good question for LBBV. I know someone is in the data center 24/7.
You open a ticket they have fixed the problem and logged it before you can refresh the screen.

Oprano and FFC both are hosted with NatNet.

Hell Puppy · 03-10-2006

I do have monitoring on all of our servers from points across the U.S. and a couple on foreign soil as well. If something doesn't respond as expected, I get an alert, the monitors look at least once every 5 minutes.

I've yet to have anything we have hosted at Natnet fire a single alarm. And I would get one even if the response time was too slow. So not only has it been up, it's been up and moving fast.

I've seen Oprano hiccup a few times, but when I've looked as best I can from the outside looking in, it doesn't appear to be the network. It acts more like it's at the application level. I would speculate that there's more than one database application on the server and when Oprano is slow the database is getting thrashed pretty good.

This is NOT something I would fault Natnet or any other host for, application issues are the responsibility of the content provider.

slavdogg · 03-10-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by gonzo

Do you call 30K a month commission unproductive traffic?
I dont.
Ive never made 30K in my LIFE in one month off of all my sites combined.

Have you? Im really trying to put this in perspective Vick. Cuz I sure as fuck dont understand where your coming from. And no Im not talking about Shemp.

Gonzo, are you saying that Shemp makes 30k a month from all his traffic sites ??
WOW, woopty fuckin doo,
thats chicken shit on the web man.

gonzo · 03-10-2006

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Originally Posted by slavdogg

Gonzo, are you saying that Shemp makes 30k a month from all his traffic sites ??
WOW, woopty fuckin doo,
thats chicken shit on the web man.

Nope. I have no idea what Shemp makes.

gonzo · 03-10-2006

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Originally Posted by slavdogg

Gonzo, are you saying that Shemp makes 30k a month from all his traffic sites ??
WOW, woopty fuckin doo,
thats chicken shit on the web man.

Slav... I know you are the man when it comes to selling and buying domain names. How do you determine the worth of a domain?

Dianna Vesta · 03-10-2006

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Originally Posted by gonzo

Slav... I know you are the man when it comes to selling and buying domain names. How do you determine the worth of a domain?

This is a good question, especially today. In fact it sound be a whole other thread Gonzo.

gonzo · 03-10-2006

So noted

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dianna Vesta

This is a good question, especially today. In fact it sound be a whole other thread Gonzo.

Sabby · 03-10-2006

I can post nekid pics if ya like!

Sabby

Mike AI · 03-10-2006

Sar you are right on the money with your points. Some people have a hard time defending their ideas in an open debate, so they take they run and take their ball home.

That thread told me a lot about Shemp, and others.

TheEnforcer · 03-10-2006

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Originally Posted by Sabby

I can post nekid pics if ya like!

Sabby

heheh.. no one would object to that dear!!

Sabby · 03-10-2006

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Originally Posted by TheEnforcer

heheh.. no one would object to that dear!!

Hehe... Okay, I have a lovely "Tribute to Oprano" pictorial of me in my Oprano cap that I am going to post along with the announcement of my site launch (it wont be very much longer).

Hopefully that little peace offering will soften the blow and you wont all flame me too much.

hehe.

Sabby

gonzo · 03-10-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sabby

Hehe... Okay, I have a lovely "Tribute to Oprano" pictorial of me in my Oprano cap that I am going to post along with the announcement of my site launch (it wont be very much longer).

Hopefully that little peace offering will soften the blow and you wont all flame me too much.

hehe.

Sabby

Your welcome to post any site announcement you have at all.
I have a site design for you if you would like the PSDs etc.
I have no use for them.

03-09-2006	#103
Vick Celebrating Company's Success with A Beer From Mini Bar Want to see your own Advertising Here! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Little South of Sanity Posts: 6,551	Re: Post quality gone to shit I am the one held (and rightly so) responsible for running Shemp off What I did was challenge (in no uncertain terms) a business model that has cost this industry MILLIONS of dollars. I don't care how you want to wrap it that's the bottom line I also personally went and looked and tore apart for public inspection some of Shemps business model Shemps explanation was he felt he didn't have to explain the right for TGP's to exist as he had already done that What few know if I offered to try to speak to Shemp and apologize to have him come back (only becasue Gonzo had put effort into getting him here and thought that was a good thing, obviously I was of a different opinion and the other "owner" at the time agreed with me that Shemp was thin skinned about the whole issue) and what you and I call productive (or fine) traffic might be 2 very different things If you want to say it go ahead, no need for innuendo __________________ Pssst Click the Button Above I once wanted to be a Gynecologist But I couldn't find an opening

03-09-2006	#104
JoesHO Members Want to see your own Advertising Here! Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 5,085	Re: Post quality gone to shit How aam I tryng to re write history Sarretah? Just because I was one of the assholes in the shemp case. does not excuse it. what about all the others mentioned? and I am not the one who said Oprano is slow, in fact it is not. we are getting more posters than the previous administration had by a long shot ( some of you call it spam, I call it new blood potential) Nor am I saying that we are defending anything someone else says, I am telling you the direction we are going to go, period. again, I dont give a fuck if you think it is bullshit or not, the changes will be made, stay or go. it makes no difference to me . you were gone once and Oprano did not die without you as you already said, and you did not die without Oprano. If yuou like it here then please come by often, if you dont then go wherever you want to. I want the real businessmen, and the newbies. I think you are niether , but I do enjoy your conversation. you can be pissed or hurt or put aside or whatever . but those are the facts . __________________ AEBN THE GLOBAL LEADER IN ADULT EVOLUTION something FIT this way comes!

03-09-2006	#106
JoesHO Members Want to see your own Advertising Here! Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 5,085	Re: Post quality gone to shit Let me clarify, by saying businessmen, I eman the people on the level I mentioned that have decided to not come here in my earlier post, I do not mean you are not in business, sarretah . __________________ AEBN THE GLOBAL LEADER IN ADULT EVOLUTION something FIT this way comes!

03-09-2006	#107
Vick Celebrating Company's Success with A Beer From Mini Bar Want to see your own Advertising Here! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Little South of Sanity Posts: 6,551	Re: Post quality gone to shit Wow so much at once First off CJ is that really you??!! How are ya? How's life on the bottom of the world? great to see ya (so to speak) I reread some of the thread cross refed here and damn I actually discussed business Gonzo, not sure what you are saying but is 30K a month unproductive? FUCK NO!. - well maybe if you could have made 500K a month off the same traffic a different way it might be .... Once again my gift for the obvious shines through Joesho - while you're opening up the door to kick the old guard out remember Which of the old guard helped bust your chops when you first came here and you earned your wings and spot here damn it ;-) If you don't want that here now it's your place and I don't have the time, energy or inclination for it anymore anyway __________________ Pssst Click the Button Above I once wanted to be a Gynecologist But I couldn't find an opening

03-09-2006	#111
Vick Celebrating Company's Success with A Beer From Mini Bar Want to see your own Advertising Here! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Little South of Sanity Posts: 6,551	Re: Post quality gone to shit I sincerely hope it works I guess from the outside looking in the biggest challenge seems to be finding the time for it with everything else you and Joe have going on __________________ Pssst Click the Button Above I once wanted to be a Gynecologist But I couldn't find an opening

03-09-2006	#113
Dravyk Easy Like Sunday Morning Want to see your own Advertising Here! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Behind a couch, somewhere in Philly Posts: 7,628	Re: Post quality gone to shit Lordy lordy lordy, what a thread!! IMHO you're all right. And you're all wrong. So there. That should pretty much cover it. __________________ All Of 'Em Mainstream Webmasters New: WebmasterConventions.com

03-09-2006	#115
PornoDoggy Cramming 3 people in a Room to Attend Show Want to see your own Advertising Here! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Amid the Cornfields of Illinois Posts: 5,366	Re: Post quality gone to shit Okay, so what we've established is that things are different. (The subtext, that some people will blow whichever way they think popular opinion wants the wind to blow, has probably been known to anyone with a 3rd grade reading level). __________________ SEX STORY TEXT Exotic Material for Adult Websites Available for part time (project or ongoing) work ...

03-09-2006	#117
DrGuile french with welsh tendancies Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 2,007	Re: Post quality gone to shit It's great that I could come to Oprano this morning and see FHGs of a fat teen showing it all... I mean, where else could I possibly see that? Nice work __________________ LiveBucks / Privatefeeds - Giving you money since 1999 Up to 40% Commission! 25% Webmaster Referal

03-09-2006	#126
Dravyk Easy Like Sunday Morning Want to see your own Advertising Here! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Behind a couch, somewhere in Philly Posts: 7,628	Re: Post quality gone to shit JR, why is your avatar all about a man's butt? Is there anything you want to get out, er, um, off your chest? __________________ All Of 'Em Mainstream Webmasters New: WebmasterConventions.com

03-10-2006	#133
JoesHO Members Want to see your own Advertising Here! Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 5,085	Re: Post quality gone to shit your an idiot Rhetorical. why do you still come around here ? __________________ AEBN THE GLOBAL LEADER IN ADULT EVOLUTION something FIT this way comes!

03-10-2006	#140
Hell Puppy Fat Fucking Nobody Want to see your own Advertising Here! Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 6,523	Re: Post quality gone to shit I do have monitoring on all of our servers from points across the U.S. and a couple on foreign soil as well. If something doesn't respond as expected, I get an alert, the monitors look at least once every 5 minutes. I've yet to have anything we have hosted at Natnet fire a single alarm. And I would get one even if the response time was too slow. So not only has it been up, it's been up and moving fast. I've seen Oprano hiccup a few times, but when I've looked as best I can from the outside looking in, it doesn't appear to be the network. It acts more like it's at the application level. I would speculate that there's more than one database application on the server and when Oprano is slow the database is getting thrashed pretty good. This is NOT something I would fault Natnet or any other host for, application issues are the responsibility of the content provider.

03-10-2006	#146
Sabby GOLD DIGGER Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,421	Re: Post quality gone to shit I can post nekid pics if ya like! Sabby

03-10-2006	#147
Mike AI Administrator Want to see your own Advertising Here! Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 11,618	Re: Post quality gone to shit Sar you are right on the money with your points. Some people have a hard time defending their ideas in an open debate, so they take they run and take their ball home. That thread told me a lot about Shemp, and others. __________________ Make big money on your Domains! Why wait 40 days to get paid with the other guys? Parked.com pays the most for your traffic, and cuts checks twice a month!