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Rolo, might I ask the obvious (but sort of dumb) question:
Who has the right to say the Mullahs have to go? It's a serious issue. Is the US and the US alone the judge of "good leadership" (maybe the boy can remove himself)? How do you decide that someone "has to go"? Is not the act of attempting to remove of kill the current leaders of a country in fact a declaration of war on them? I am really starting to feel that the US wants to make everyone free, even if they have to force them to be free (which isn't really very free, now is it?). Alex
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How about the UN sending troops into countries such as Ivory Coast? How about the UN sending troops into North Korea in 1950? And why DIDN'T the UN send troops into Czechoslovakia in 1968? Can the UN decide any better than the US can? Are such actions more ethical when decided by a majority of nations with no vetoes than by any one nation?
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Colin, Japan and Germany are the results of "world war"... Ivory coast is a result of, well, internal strife.
Can't compare the two properly. Can't even compare German to Iraq... the scale and situation just is no the same. Getting back to the original topic, it turns out that Powell's source is once again "questionable"... http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/11/19/...iran/index.html Nice to have the media prove me right for having doubts. Alex
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I guess you could take the point that no one is free. After all, we are all slaves to our governments in various degrees. The concept of "free" would loose its meaning in that case though. At any rate, I prefer to think of myself as living under Rousseau's "Social Contract". -------------- repeat ------------------ Were Germans freed at the end of World War II? Were the Japanese freed at the end of World War II? Are the citizens of nonconsensual governments "free" in the first place? I'd say Germans citizens are "free" today. How did they get that way? How about the UN sending troops into countries such as Ivory Coast? How about the UN sending troops into North Korea in 1950? And why DIDN'T the UN send troops into Czechoslovakia in 1968? Can the UN decide any better than the US can? Are such actions more ethical when decided by a majority of nations with no vetoes than by any one nation?
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