Who's going to the Florida show?

[Mina]

I will be going. It will be my first show.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by Mina

I will be going. It will be my first show.

We will be hanging where the cool kids arent.

[JoesHO]

Originally Posted by gonzo

We will be hanging where the cool kids arent.

But the rainman will be in attendance .

[Mina]

Originally Posted by gonzo

We will be hanging where the cool kids arent.

And where's that?

[Cleo]

I'm guessing that the week of the show will be when we get hit by the next major hurricane. Should be a really great view of the night sky without all that annoying light pollution from the pitch black hotel. Sky really was beautiful after Wilma hit. It was a moonless night and not a cloud in the sky. My backyard was so dark that you couldn't even see a few feet in front of you. It was cool night with little humidity and the sky was amazingly beautiful spoiled only by the roar of generators.

I'll be at the show unless I'm home tending to a generator in topical hell.

[softball]

Originally Posted by Cleo

I'm guessing that the week of the show will be when we get hit by the next major hurricane. Should be a really great view of the night sky without all that annoying light pollution from the pitch black hotel. Sky really was beautiful after Wilma hit. It was a moonless night and not a cloud in the sky. My backyard was so dark that you couldn't even see a few feet in front of you. It was cool night with little humidity and the sky was amazingly beautiful spoiled only by the roar of generators.

I'll be at the show unless I'm home tending to a generator in topical hell.

Actually, I have never understood why folks live in such a harsh climate. Hell if I knew the weather was gonna kick the shit out of me every year, I would move on. Is it economics?

[Cleo]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

Actually, I have never understood why folks live in such a harsh climate. Hell if I knew the weather was gonna kick the shit out of me every year, I would move on. Is it economics?

Guess it is your definition of harsh.

Lived in northern California as a young adult and we had fire storms in the dry season and then mud slides in the rainy season not to mention you just never knew when the next big quake would hit.

Lived in Pennsylvania as a child and remember being snowed in and temps of -20 F that could kill. I fucking hate the cold and snow.

Neighbor has family in Oklahoma and they have to back the SUV out of the garage and climb into the tornado shelter in the floor of the garage within twenty minutes of the tornado sirens going off which is a few times of month some months.

Most of the year in southern Florida is paradise with little humidity and temps in the seventies. We have great shopping and dinning and no state income tax plus one of the best homestead tax laws in the US. It is not cheap to live here but not as bad as California or New York. I own no warm clothes and pretty much am able to wear the same clothing year round.

Summer and part of fall is hot and humid but you get used to it and learn to only go outside from the A/C in the evening.

I've lived here for most of my life and only been through five hurricanes. We get lots of warning when they are coming and our houses are built to withstand them. Mostly they are more of an annoyance then anything else since they disrupt utilities and just make a big mess of everything.

Unfortunately the convention is held during the worst month of the year here.

[softball]

[quote=Cleo]Guess it is your definition of harsh.

Most of the year in southern Florida is paradise with little humidity and temps in the seventies.

And then for two months people get killed and livelihoods are wiped out by the weather. It seems to me its like living on the slopes of an active volcano. The weather is nice most of the time. But when it blows, it sucks....
There are a ton of very nice benign climates around that won't kill you. I have always been curious about people that live in harms way by choice. I have always chosen safe climates myself.

[Cleo]

My house is built like a bunker with a low roof, small windows, and made out of cement block plus despite living less then a mile from the ocean I'm not in a flood zone being on what is considered high ground here. Because the ocean is very deep on this side of the state we don't have issues with storm surge like the Gulf coast does.

Hurricanes are a real pain in the ass. When one looks like it is coming my way I have to spend a hour putting up shutters and making sure that my almost 200 gallons of fuel storage is full along with all my other storm supplies. I spend extra each month on backup ADSL service since my very fast cable internet goes down for weeks after each storm. Probably going to switch to satellite for backup internet next year since a storm could knock out my backup ADSL service. I pay a lot for insurance on my home and also spent a lot this year having all my trees trimmed way back.

Hurricanes are an annoyance here but way more people die each week driving then from any hurricanes here since this area was built with hurricanes in mind.

Lived here for over twenty years without ever seeing a hurricane but it does look like things have changed. Hopefully we will not get one the week of the show.

[Jace]

I live in Atlanta, the only weather that comes around that can kill me is right now, 101F with 90% humidity....LOL

[Cleo]

Hot as hell and like being in a sauna outside here today. Came out of the gym and decided to take the top out of my car and the top was so hot that it was burning my hands as I took it out.

Not sure why I would take the top out of my car other than having an odd sadistic desire to be baked alive under the Florida sun.


Did I mention that it is a bit warm down here on this sand bar today?

[softball]

Originally Posted by Cleo

Hot as hell and like being in a sauna outside here today. Came out of the gym and decided to take the top out of my car and the top was so hot that it was burning my hands as I took it out.

Not sure why I would take the top out of my car other than having an odd sadistic desire to be baked alive under the Florida sun.


Did I mention that it is a bit warm down here on this sand bar today?

Damn is that you in that fine ride?

[Cleo]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

Damn is that you in that fine ride?

Yeah that is me on the way home from the gym snapping a pic of my refection in the mirror tinting of business in a strip shopping mall.

[Sharpie]

I agree Cleo. I lived in the Midwest most of my life. Harsh winters & tornadoes in the Spring. Summers way too short (and humidity) I miss the beautiful fall foliage, but that always means 'enjoy it now - because the snow will soon be behind.

The area I live in Florida had not had a hurricane in 40/50 years. We got brushed the last two years. Guess it is just the odds catching up. Just my luck, move down here permanently, and the weather changes:-)

But, the 9 or 10 days a year we live with actual hurricane scares, are worth not having the freezing winters. No ice, no snow and being able to have all the windows open much of the year makes it worth it. It is actually GREEN here all year. Plus, I love looking out the window and seeing sunshine, even when it is too humid to go outside much. Most of us leave our air conditioned homes, get in our air conditioned car and go to the air conditioned mall or work place. I LOVE being able to go bare footed most of the year & not worrying about coats and scraping car windows! The traffic is also quite bearable in Cape Coral - not like many other areas.

Nothing affordable is perfect. (Not that this is affordable) but I appreciate the value.

[TheEnforcer]

Bah.. winter is great and, while most people would call Wisconsin winters harsh, we've had some really wimpy winters the last couple years as compared to when I was growing up as a kid. The old adage "when I was a kid" is VERY true when it comes to winter around here IMHO. They have been starting much later than they used to and have either been pretty mild/average for both or had an abundance of snow or an abundance of cold but neither together on a grand scale like it used to be.

[Rcourt64]

Originally Posted by Sharpie

I agree Cleo. I lived in the Midwest most of my life. Harsh winters & tornadoes in the Spring. Summers way too short (and humidity) I miss the beautiful fall foliage, but that always means 'enjoy it now - because the snow will soon be behind.

The area I live in Florida had not had a hurricane in 40/50 years. We got brushed the last two years. Guess it is just the odds catching up. Just my luck, move down here permanently, and the weather changes:-)

But, the 9 or 10 days a year we live with actual hurricane scares, are worth not having the freezing winters. No ice, no snow and being able to have all the windows open much of the year makes it worth it. It is actually GREEN here all year. Plus, I love looking out the window and seeing sunshine, even when it is too humid to go outside much. Most of us leave our air conditioned homes, get in our air conditioned car and go to the air conditioned mall or work place. I LOVE being able to go bare footed most of the year & not worrying about coats and scraping car windows! The traffic is also quite bearable in Cape Coral - not like many other areas.

Nothing affordable is perfect. (Not that this is affordable) but I appreciate the value.

Wow? I find the humity grossing. The traffic absolutly untalerable with all the seniors who can't barely even walk anymore "Worse off drive". And infested with these darker looking, smaller type speces of human called Mexicans. It's amaized how one persons view of misery, can be someone else's paradise.

I guess all I can say is I'm happy for you that you found happiness in your choice of domiciles.

[Cleo]

Originally Posted by Rcourt64

Wow? I find the humity grossing. The traffic absolutly untalerable with all the seniors who can't barely even walk anymore "Worse off drive". And infested with these darker looking, smaller type speces of human called Mexicans.

I drive less then 50 miles a week normally and avoid the roads at rush hour. Pretty much everything that I could want is less then 10 miles from my house and most is less then a few miles. I live in a private home with a private yard but I'm also living in the heart of the city within walking distance of a beautiful beach.

There is a lot of older folks down here. Hopefully people will be as nice to me when I'm old as I am to them. Really I have no problem with retirees and often end up talking with them and learning from their life experiences.

There is a lot of Latins and there is also a lot of Asian, African, Italian, Brazilian, Jewish, Indian, Native Americans, Plain Old Vanilla White Folks, plus a bunch of other ethnic groups, and lots of mixed race people like myself. I like the diversified ethic and cultural mix here. It makes for an interesting place to live.

Great dinning, great shopping, great nightlife. I don't own any warm clothes and have no reason to. I can drive a nice car year round since it doesn't snow. I go to the beach all year.

The downside is it is hot and humid for a few months out of the year but I just wear very little clothing and mostly stay indoors during the afternoon hours. We may get some bad weather for a few days during the storm season but I will take that any day over snow and cold for months on end.

I really do love living here. If for some reason I had to leave I would probably move to the desert like out in Nevada or someplace like that but I would miss the ocean and convenience of south Florida.

[Sharpie]

I live on the West Coast of Florida, in a preplanned city that is only at 50% of it's growth capacity. When I first arrived, it was mind boggling to see miles of 4 lane boulevards where there wasn't even houses or businesses yet. Except for the major business district - the traffic is aggressive and it MOVES. The Cape does have a lot of winter inhabitants, but overall, it is mostly families and working people. It is not a 'beachy community, it is a water community with miles of canals.

I love the sunshine and the fact that I have a boat - 20 ft. from my back door. The fact that Cape Coral has been one the top 5 fastest growing cities for the last 3 years, does mean that the day will come that my quiet slice of Paradise (although a very good investment) will become traffic infested. But, for now - it is quiet, serene and pure pleasure:-)

[Josh Winters]

the show is good for a day or so of networking. try to hit a couple of the parties too.

exhibiting there can be a big waste. the las vegas show is much better.

Josh Winters

josh.winters@webstream.net
www.webstream.net

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by Josh Winters

the show is good for a day or so of networking. try to hit a couple of the parties too.

exhibiting there can be a big waste. the las vegas show is much better.

Josh Winters

josh.winters@webstream.net
www.webstream.net

Thats not been my experience. I usually get far more networking done in Florida and less in Vegas.

I would imagine exhibiting at any show is a waste for a host.

[Hell Puppy]

Vegas and Florida are hell-ish places to have summer shows. I'd love to see something in the Northwest or in mountains somewhere in summer and leave the southern-most shows for winter.

[LadyMischief]

I do believe I will be making an appearance this year.

[JoesHO]

Originally Posted by Hell Puppy

Vegas and Florida are hell-ish places to have summer shows. I'd love to see something in the Northwest or in mountains somewhere in summer and leave the southern-most shows for winter.

I agree.

BTW I was thinking about you and Gonzo today, I am in Portland and I am gonna try out this new brazilian grill out for some rodizio.


I will give you guys the FFN feedback score soon.

[Hammer]

Originally Posted by Hell Puppy

Vegas and Florida are hell-ish places to have summer shows. I'd love to see something in the Northwest or in mountains somewhere in summer and leave the southern-most shows for winter.

It's hot in lots of places in the summer. I was talking to a client that lives in Canada yesterday and he said it was 95 and the humidity was very high. It was cooler than that in Orlando yesterday.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by JoesHO

I agree.

BTW I was thinking about you and Gonzo today, I am in Portland and I am gonna try out this new brazilian grill out for some rodizio.


I will give you guys the FFN feedback score soon.

I am sad. I missed the Best Special Ever at our local resturant. Was supposed to meet some folks at TGIFridays visiting. That was 2.5 hours ago. I dont think they are coming.

[Hell Puppy]

Originally Posted by gonzo

I am sad. I missed the Best Special Ever at our local resturant. Was supposed to meet some folks at TGIFridays visiting. That was 2.5 hours ago. I dont think they are coming.

And Andrew made Peaches stay away from my dessert....

[Peaches]

Originally Posted by Hell Puppy

And Andrew made Peaches stay away from my dessert....

Bastard.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by Hell Puppy

And Andrew made Peaches stay away from my dessert....

Andrew is fine waiter.

[Peaches]

Originally Posted by gonzo

Andrew is fine waiter.

Hellpuppy relented and gave me a few bites (I had my steak knife at his weenie under the table). Then Andrew brought Kathi and I something even BETTER

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by Peaches

Hellpuppy relented and gave me a few bites (I had my steak knife at his weenie under the table). Then Andrew brought Kathi and I something even BETTER

I had the last day of the month special.
It was called the TGIFridays shuffle...how long will you wait before you call it a no show.

[Hell Puppy]

Originally Posted by Peaches

Hellpuppy relented and gave me a few bites (I had my steak knife at his weenie under the table). Then Andrew brought Kathi and I something even BETTER

and yet you wonderwhy you're not going to buckhorn exchange....

http://www.buckhorn.com/

[Peaches]

Originally Posted by Hell Puppy

and yet you wonderwhy you're not going to buckhorn exchange....

http://www.buckhorn.com/

You are a hateful man

[docholly]

I'll be at the Outernext party in Buffalo that weekend.

[Elli]

I'm going for sure! We (AFF/Cams.com) are going to have a booth in the indoors area

[TheEnforcer]

Originally Posted by Elli

I'm going for sure! We (AFF/Cams.com) are going to have a booth in the indoors area

Baring something unforseen I am planning on going to the show. Look forward to meeting you in eprson dear.

[Peaches]

Originally Posted by TheEnforcer

Baring something unforseen I am planning on going to the show. Look forward to meeting you in eprson dear.

YOU are going??!! I have a tentative group of people I worked with years ago planning to come up that weekend, but if they don't I plan on going down and seeing Serge, Sue, MikeW, my uncle, etc. We WILL have to find a way to meet - finally

[TheMessenger]

LC will be there.
Hammer has offered to take me on a side trip to
go out on a Gator Hunt and use me as Gator Bait.

[Forest]

Originally Posted by Jace

I would love to know how much AVN makes off this event.....and damn me for not being as greedy as them and thinking of it first...haha

they arent making as much as they used to

I know for a fact they gave away alot of free booth spaces this year

AND i just got an e-mail saying there was still booth space avail as well as advterising and sponsor packages

if I didnt live in Hollywood I wouldnt be going

[Peaches]

I just got an invite to a wedding I can't miss on the 5th in Alabama so I won't be able to make it to FL at all I do plan on getting down to see Mike, Serge, Sue and my Uncle soon though. And hopefully Tampa for the other FL folks

[TheEnforcer]

Yup Peaches. I am going.. gonna miss you!! :>(( i AM GONNA BE THERE FROM THE 3RD THROUGH THE 6TH....

[RawAlex]

I may put in an appearance, although I honestly have gotten pretty tired of shows and have dropped out of the mill. I have nothing booked, if I do it, the whole deal will be last minute.

hello to all the Oprano people. You can stop being amazed, I'm outta here again for a few months.

[JoesHO]

Originally Posted by RawAlex

I may put in an appearance, although I honestly have gotten pretty tired of shows and have dropped out of the mill. I have nothing booked, if I do it, the whole deal will be last minute.

hello to all the Oprano people. You can stop being amazed, I'm outta here again for a few months.

all the idiots of old days of Oprano are gone, you should stick around it is a new day here !

[Jace]

Originally Posted by JoesHO

all the idiots of old days of Oprano are gone, you should stick around it is a new day here !

*yawn*

I don't even like most of those guys, but your obsession with them is getting old

[adamneve]

Pussycash.com will be there from the 2nd - 7th see you all there

[Lawrence Connor]

Yeah, I'll be there.

LC @ internext summer 2006, and oh, btw, I got a new hat, too, Hammer. OK

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by Lawrence Connor

Yeah, I'll be there.

LC @ internext summer 2006, and oh, btw, I got a new hat, too, Hammer. OK

Did you get a new hairdo?
Or does it still look like Krusty the Clown?

[Lawrence Connor]

that silly hairdo at the pornstaru show never was "my hairdo"
they had me done that way as they wanted just for that show
that's about as ridiculous as saying I always wear that paper bag they had too

[Rcourt64]

Originally Posted by Lawrence Connor

that silly hairdo at the pornstaru show never was "my hairdo"
they had me done that way as they wanted just for that show
that's about as ridiculous as saying I always wear that paper bag they had too

L.C? is that the same excuse your gonna use for that shit growing on your chest?

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by Rcourt64

L.C? is that the same excuse your gonna use for that shit growing on your chest?

Thats a gay pride tattoo.

No self respecting straight white boy would pay to have that put on him.

[Lawrence Connor]

haha the same lame knock my tattoo happy horse shit