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Originally posted by Diamond Jim@Dec 3 2003, 01:28 PM But you're right....the advent of women in the workplace opened the doors for even ugly women to get laid!
Though it really sucks when you're an ugly woman who works AT HOME. :angry:
And don't try to tease me with visions of "The Postman Always Rings Twice" - my mailbox is 1+ miles away from my house.
Originally posted by cherrylula@Dec 3 2003, 12:27 PM and fyi- When I was a teenager I worked for a woman who was a very masculine lesbian and lived with another female who you would think is a man. They were both raising two kids and guess what? They told the kids they were just roomies til they were old enough to get it.
Both were excellent parents but didn't try and teach the kids about gayness when they were little, so they could go to school and mouth off about it to their friends and be made fun of.
Kids in today's world don't need shit like that.
And what exactly would that perfect age be???
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Fletch, I've been here since Day 1 and I have 271 posts. You've been here for 5 minutes and have 923 posts.
Go outside, my brutha!
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Originally posted by cherrylula@Dec 3 2003, 01:41 PM Well, what age do they start teaching sex education in schools now days? Junior high?
I couldn't say exactly, but 7 years old is really young.
Oh geeze. Why on EARTH would any parent wait for the schools to teach their kids about sex?
With all the sexual predators out there (yes, even GAY ones....) the earlier you teach your kids about "good" and "bad" touching and sex between people who are adults and love each other, etc. the better.
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I have a brother who is 6 and I can't imagine him being aware of what gay means. He would be trying to kiss all the boys in his classroom if that was the case because he's just an innocent little kid.
Then he wouldn't really be "aware" of what gay means, would he?
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And not that there is even anything wrong with little kids having affection towards each other, but do we really want them to start playing gay that young? He doesn't even know Santa Claus isn't real, let alone what being gay means!
Originally posted by Carrie@Dec 3 2003, 09:42 AM Peaches, don't you just LOVE when people without children start attacking your position and telling you what makes a "good" or a "bad" parent?
By the way, I think your brain is just fine.
Yeah, and we all know what sort of qualifications are required to breed and squeeze out offspring.
Originally posted by Peaches@Dec 3 2003, 09:46 AM Oh geeze. Why on EARTH would any parent wait for the schools to teach their kids about sex?
With all the sexual predators out there (yes, even GAY ones....) the earlier you teach your kids about "good" and "bad" touching and sex between people who are adults and love each other, etc. the better.
Please, oh wise Peaches, how young should we start teaching kids about sex then? I almost don't want to ask...
Originally posted by Carrie@Dec 3 2003, 12:42 PM Peaches, don't you just LOVE when people without children start attacking your position and telling you what makes a "good" or a "bad" parent?
By the way, I think your brain is just fine.
Not having children doesn't preclude the ability to see good or bad.
Personally, I feel sorry for the two bull dykes, because they are commiting emotional suicide by having a relationship with children. NOBODY wants children, they just happen. Not sure how it just "happened" to two women, but I'm sure there is a good explanation.....
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Originally posted by Carrie@Dec 3 2003, 09:42 AM Peaches, don't you just LOVE when people without children start attacking your position and telling you what makes a "good" or a "bad" parent?
By the way, I think your brain is just fine.
Usually, I like your posts for the most part.
However, since there are no tests to pass to have a kid, it's meaningless to assume people with kids are more qualified to raise kids or tell what makes a good parent.
Edit: I love posting things when two people before me post nearly the same thing.
Originally posted by Diamond Jim@Dec 3 2003, 01:49 PM Personally, I feel sorry for the two bull dykes, because they are commiting emotional suicide by having a relationship with children. NOBODY wants children, they just happen. Not sure how it just "happened" to two women, but I'm sure there is a good explanation.....
Duh, they're like cancer and ANYONE can get cancer!
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Fatpad, my point is that people without children always seem to know how to raise children perfectly.
That is, until they have children - then they realize the truth.
There's nothing quite so humbling as having a child.
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Yeah KRL, lots of bad things out there that kids are exposed to nowdays. Even video games. Its up to the parents to regulate such things though, and I have no doubt its not an easy task. Much credit to parents nowdays dealing with such things. I myself am not even sure if I want to bring any kids into this world its such an ugly place.
Nick, yep, according to the doctor all my insides work fine. I'm very responsible when it comes to birth control. Its much easier to have safe sex than it is to give birth and raise a kid, or have an abortion even. Much cheaper too hahaha
Originally posted by Carrie@Dec 3 2003, 10:02 AM Fatpad, my point is that people without children always seem to know how to raise children perfectly.
That is, until they have children - then they realize the truth.
There's nothing quite so humbling as having a child.
Did I say I know how to raise children perfectly? Is there such a thing?
I raised my sister from about age 13-16, and it wasn't humbling it was a pain in the ass. Thank goodness she wasn't my kid, ball and chain is an understatement.
Originally posted by Fletch XXX@Dec 3 2003, 08:34 AM just proof that even 2 moms cant raise a kid correctly.
without dad women will FUCK UP KIDS.
How is this fucking up the kid? Being honest with them? Is the child supposed to lie? Are the women supposed to completely change who they are and what they do because their kid might tell someone at school they are gay? Give me a BREAK! Children at 5 can learn the reality of situations, kids at 7 even more so. There is NO reason the child should have been punished for explaining the situation when he wasn't being rude or derrogatory. I've heard 7 years old spout some pretty terrible things. How is this one of them?
I think it's better to be honest with a child, and punishing him about the realities of his family situation is NOT going to help matters. Perhaps taking the child aside and explainign to him that not everyone is COMFORTABLE with it or something, in terms he could understand, sure. But PUNISHING HIM?
I think his "mothers" did something right telling him the reality. Lying to children for any reason is absolutely not the way to do things, especially about sensitive and integral family situations.
I was raised my entire life without my father, and I think I'm a pretty well-rounded and good person. I don't see how the lack of a father in any way is going to change a situation if a child is well-loved and treated well. Apparently families that aren't perfect nuclear families according to society's standards just aren't acceptable? And how about all the fathers out there that are useless pieces of shit? I'd say some kids would be better OFF without their fathers.. the same can be said about EITHER sex of parent.
I'm disappointed in you Fletch. For being someone who doesn't seem to conform to societal mores and expectations, you sure parroted the right crap this time around.
Originally posted by Carrie@Dec 3 2003, 10:02 AM Fatpad, my point is that people without children always seem to know how to raise children perfectly.
That is, until they have children - then they realize the truth.
There's nothing quite so humbling as having a child.
Originally posted by Peaches@Dec 3 2003, 09:58 AM 99 times out of 100 youl know when your kid's ready to learn about sex. It's not done at set age and it's done in stages. For instance, you don't tell the kid who wants to know where babies come from about blowjobs. And you also might not want to tell the kid who's playing with him/herself in public about intercourse. :P It's almost always a series of answering questions when they come to you.
Exactly... they let you know what they're ready for - and when they're ready. You have to know how to read your kids... and watch for the signs during the discussion to make sure you don't tell more than they asked for.
I guess I'm just always kind of surprised how some people can be so closed minded on things... especially in this industry where we're so desensitized to almost everything sexual on the planet. However, some people on this board don't surprise me anymore, as they are just typically contrary to everything the "regulars" seem to comment on. It's the whole look-at-me mentality that makes me just skip over their posts now for the most part. I mean, it's not even entertaining stupidity anymore.
Also - on the subject of age appropriateness... the Department of Education in California sent us two books with our homeschooling registration when my son hit 3rd grade a few years ago - that's for what, approximately ages 7-8? One was titled, "I Have Two Daddies" and the other was "I Have Two Mommies." It was *required reading* so that they could have a better understanding about "alternative lifestyle families" and to "encourage social understanding and acceptance of people who are different."
So... apparently - in California anyway - it was acceptable for the school board to want to teach my children about what gay is. Maybe it's just Lousiana that's screwed up? <_<
Originally posted by Fletch XXX@Dec 3 2003, 10:27 AM well my post did what it was exactly supposed to do.
Youre disappointed in me? I am disappointed in YOU.
Of all people, damn, i didnt expect you to bite.
You love me more than you love this industry Lady Michief. Thought we were cool girl?
I posted that to get a rise out of the females on the board, and oh lookie... it WORKED!!!
Lol one of the few times I rise to the bait is when kids are involved. Just because I posted that doesn't mean I don't think your nifty too lol.
Kids to me are the reason the world goes around, and I see so many people taking them for granted, ignoring them, abusing them, etc etc it just makes me want to protect them all.
Originally posted by kath@Dec 3 2003, 01:29 PM However, some people on this board don't surprise me anymore, as they are just typically contrary to everything the "regulars" seem to comment on. It's the whole look-at-me mentality that makes me just skip over their posts now for the most part. I mean, it's not even entertaining stupidity anymore.
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Originally posted by Fletch XXX@Dec 3 2003, 01:31 PM Here's a question for you parents.
Would you want this little 7 year old boy teaching your kids what gay is?
Maybe asking all the girls in his class is they are gay too like mommy?
No, but its what happens in school. I know I learned about sex from my friends in school way before my parents explained it. I can still remember clearly in my mind seeing that first Playboy centerfold one of my school buddies had stashed in his locker and how excited it made all of us.
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Originally posted by Fletch XXX@Dec 3 2003, 10:31 AM Here's a question for you parents.
Would you want this little 7 year old boy teaching your kids what gay is?
Maybe asking all the girls in his class is they are gay too like mommy?
If it was part of his life situation I wouldn't be ANGRY with him for telling my kids. I would CERTAINLY never punish a child for telling the truth. However I might contact his parents and suggest to them that they perhaps explain to their son when is and is not an appropriate time to discuss it, and maybe tell children who ask to ask their own parents.
I could never punish a child for telling me or anyone else the truth, even if I didn't like it. How can they hold this child accountable for explaining something he obviously didn't understand could be problematic or unacceptable? If they should talk to anyone, they should discuss it with his mothers, if it's that big of aproblem.
Originally posted by cherrylula@Dec 3 2003, 01:03 PM Yeah KRL, lots of bad things out there that kids are exposed to nowdays. Even video games. Its up to the parents to regulate such things though, and I have no doubt its not an easy task. Much credit to parents nowdays dealing with such things. I myself am not even sure if I want to bring any kids into this world its such an ugly place.
Nick, yep, according to the doctor all my insides work fine. I'm very responsible when it comes to birth control. Its much easier to have safe sex than it is to give birth and raise a kid, or have an abortion even. Much cheaper too hahaha
Trust me it was against my better judgment letting my kid buy his own copy of GTA for his PS2, but everyone one of his friends has it and he was playing anyway, so what do you do?
The problem is there are so many liberal parents that make it hard for conservative parents to exercise their parenting restrictions properly on their children.
I told my kid no, for months, til I finally just caved in cause he was going over to his friends so much to play it.
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Originally posted by LadyMischief@Dec 3 2003, 10:32 AM
Kids to me are the reason the world goes around, and I see so many people taking them for granted, ignoring them, abusing them, etc etc it just makes me want to protect them all.
I know I see it to.
Between cigarette and cartoons, america is shaping its children perfectly.