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It's funny that so many of you come to Nick's defence. You begin to think what are their business pratices as well
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It's funny that so many of you come to Nick's defence. You begin to think what are their business pratices as well
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Hmmm, guilt by association eh ?? Nice try, won't work.....
I haven't seen too many jump to Nick's and Ant's defense (they really don't need any of our help) as to question your motives and tactics...
Nick and Ant are known entities on Oprano, you guys are known and from what I known generally well thought of, but, the tactics we have seen so far seem to leave something to be desired.....
It is usually much better to just plain out state your case and allow them to state their case (at least if you are going to take it public). A better alternative would be to get in touch with Serge or do a post with a title like "Hey Nick, hit me up in email" with a message that says something like "Hey, been trying to reach you". Many folks here would have offered up ways to get a hold of them.
Instead, you chose the "drama" route and you reap what you sow around here........... 
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Originally posted by Jason K@Mar 3 2004, 06:49 AM
It's funny that so many of you come to Nick's defence. You begin to think what are their business pratices as well
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Fuck me dead... I thought you guys were switched on before this...
Now the world is against you and anyone that doesnt agree is "guilty by association"??
No one thinks you shouldnt get paid if you deserve it... But you have just acted like a total ass... and its hard to disagree with Nick about him telling you to fuck off now... Anyone would!
In fact I imagine he would have a better leg to stand on suing you civily for that bounty thread on GFY than you would have of convincing a judge he did you wrong.
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Greetings all,
Nick you don't know me but your buddy Anthony sure does since he got $3000 from us http://www.orgasmcash.com last month for a Traffic/Join Prepay for 100 joins @ $30 per join.
Yeah Anthony you sent us some traffic and got like 13 joins but where's the rest of the traffic/joins we prepaid for?
You haven't returned our phone calls, IM''s and e-mails?
Where's our money ?
And for the record I have been doing business with JasonandAlex for almost a year now and never have I ever come across a situation where Jason and Alex have been dishonest or unprofessional with me.
Where's our money Anthony?
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Originally posted by Thruster@Mar 2 2004, 01:04 PM
Greetings all,
Nick you don't know me but your buddy Anthony sure does since he got $3000 from us http://www.orgasmcash.com last month for a Traffic/Join Prepay for 100 joins @ $30 per join.
Yeah Anthony you sent us some traffic and got like 13 joins but where's the rest of the traffic/joins we prepaid for?
You haven't returned our phone calls, IM''s and e-mails?
Where's our money ?
And for the record I have been doing business with JasonandAlex for almost a year now and never have I ever come across a situation where Jason and Alex have been dishonest or unprofessional with me.
Where's our money Anthony?
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Over 30k clicks sent to your program, 12 joins. We sent over 20k, before we noticed it You had entrance consoles popping up on entry infront of your paysite randomly, which we caught numerous times, following our own links which we don't get credit for. Even Jason and Alex told me that they lost quite a bit of money and traffic due to your entrance consoles, before you took them off for them. We have sent the traffic that converted with us using the previous contract, we sent too stats of an average 1:200. You are mainly responsible for the bad taste we have in our mouths over this contract with J&A.
We have completed our end sending our traffic. In fact at 1:200 conversions, you owe us money.
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Orgasm Cash,
even ME didn't put pop up consoles, exit consoles ONLY....
if you need my consulting about HOW TO NEVER GET CAUGHT BY AFFILIATES,
I charge $5000 fee, but I GUARANTEE the results...
What and how I was doing haven't become public for 2 years AFTER I exited the business.....fucking Pushrod and his big mouth!
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For Example Anthony,
You send traffic to Company "A"
Site Raw Unq Sales Ratio Earnings
Total 1898 1399 1 1:1399 35.00
You tested this sponsor overnight and the next morning said you did not want to push this sponsor. You then siad you'll pay the remaining money back on this one. What is your normal ratio? How many joins did yoiu think you should have made? Whatever it is I know it can't be 100 joins
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Anthony.....I know you know what is right. I know you are better than this.
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sarettah you don't even know the facts. Bringing it to the boards is our last attempt. Drama is the last thing we wanted. This has nothing to do with being a regular or not on Oprano. This is about right and wrong.
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Drama is the last thing you wanted ??
Payup Nickatilynx http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/index.php?s...5356&act=SF&f=1
And I don't know any of the facts other than what you and Anthony have posted.
And as I stated I don't see too many jumping to Nick and Ant's defense as I do see them questioning your tactics....
So, what are the facts.......
In clear simple terms so we can understand them please........
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Anthony you are a good person. I've met you and I can tell you are good in the heart. Please do what is right. It goes a long way.
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How does this whole thing work? Why are they sending traffic via Jason and Alex instead of to a sponsor directly? Can a person get paid more by sending traffic via Jason and Alex?
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Anthony you are a good person. I've met you and I can tell you are good in the heart. Please do what is right. It goes a long way.
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I am a good person. Have been and always will be.
I am, however, not a person who stands around watching people put cash money rewards for the home address of my partner with threats and promises of violence.
You have read on this board, at any time, anyone who have known us for over 5 years can reach us. You know Serge, and he is one of my earliest mentors. This could have been handled off the boards. I could not be reached,being out of town, but Nick has always been reachable. If you couldn't get him on the phone, his email and icq is in his signature.
You brought the current level to where it is. NO ONE takes your threats, your bounty on Nick's home address as what you portray it to be, serving of papers. 5 grand for that info? Please.
We take at face value your actions and will act accordingly.
On advice of our legal counsel, we are now ending our discussion of this matter. We await whatever action you send.
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Originally posted by Diamond Jim@Mar 2 2004, 04:53 PM
How does this whole thing work? Why are they sending traffic via Jason and Alex instead of to a sponsor directly? Can a person get paid more by sending traffic via Jason and Alex?
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could be....
I used to have sponsors paying 18 cents per click to the public,
and those who sent them traffic via me and got paid 4 cents, ended up wiht more money!
Everything is relative in this world and business we've chosen
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I guess we are all done. Let the courts decide. By the way Anthony....Paul is our Attorney....you know the one who put a freeze on your bank account a while back.
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Originally posted by Diamond Jim@Mar 3 2004, 07:53 AM
How does this whole thing work? Why are they sending traffic via Jason and Alex instead of to a sponsor directly? Can a person get paid more by sending traffic via Jason and Alex?
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Adstats was not that easy to get hooked up with is probably one reason.. They wanted 100+ daily joins minimum for a webmaster to have an account toward the end.
Also.. J&A probably setup largish pre-pay deals from places like orgasmcrash at $35 a join.. then go about buying the joins in smaller chunks from other people at $30, pre-paid..
(pre-pay Sucks Ass 80% of the time imho.. if you dont trust them to pay.. dont fucking send! Too often it ends up in arguments like this)
Speaking of adstats, and being paid... has anyone been paid out anything more of whats owed lately?
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Also.. J&A probably setup largish pre-pay deals from places like orgasmcrash at $35 a join.. then go about buying the joins in smaller chunks from other people at $30, pre-paid..
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orgasmcrash??? he he he
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I guess we are all done. Let the courts decide. By the way Anthony....Paul is our Attorney....you know the one who put a freeze on your bank account a while back.
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At the risk of my counsel being pissed at me for even replying to this.
If Paul is your lawyer, THEN YOU HAD NO REASON WHATSOVER TO PUT A 5000 REWARD ON NICK'S HOME ADDRES AS KENT SNOWSELL HAS THAT ON FILE.
So right there, catching you in that lie, proves ulterior motives other than serving legal papers. Yes we take threats to home and family very seriously.
I am done.
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Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Mar 2 2004, 12:27 PM
ztikmedia is owed a paltry amount.
The amount disputed with Jason and alex is round the 15k mark.
Everything was fine when they were brokering my traffic to adstats (Paris Hilton) 15 -30 joins a day I believe.
Then they turned us on to other people.
With entry consoles!! 25k mail hits = something like 6 joins.
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*lightbulb goes on*
why didn't you say this was to do with Paris traffic!
of course someone got fucked over, the source fell apart and there has been no site around that pays the way jon atherton's setup did ... why are you blaming each other?!?!?!??!
nick, anthony, sounds like you think the guys breached their deal because they were unable to come up with a valid solution to the problem created when atherton's site was closed down ... and jason & alex are pissed because they've had to cover something in the middle because they were the brokers - both valid concerns!
at the end of the day where paris hilton shit is concerned, someone is going to be out of pocket thanks to atherton, are you sure your anger is directed to the right location!?
seriously guys, when are any of you going to learn? play with the dodgiest area of the business and you will get burnt!
SERVES YOU ALL RIGHT!!!!! 
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... and jason & alex are pissed because they've had to cover something in the middle because they were the brokers - both valid concerns!
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ahhh...where are the good old days when brokers were shouting from every corner:
"We are the brokers. Our clients make money, our clients lose money,
we as a brokers ALWAYS make money"
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CJ....this has nothing to do with Athertons sites.
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5 other sponsors that don't convert as well as atherton's?!
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Game OVER! LOL
Think Again Nick! It seems our records show a prepay agreement with "Whitaker Consulting" which I believe is you for 300 joins done in May 2003 @ $30 per join and only 28 joins have been delivered. I guess its our fault again that your traffic never converted...
Whitaker Consulting Game Over!
You'll be hearing from our lawyers this week!
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Which address?
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