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03-12-2008 | #51 | |
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Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
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Shellee, Did I ever say that to you? Gonzo: 2Much is primarily an exporter. We sell our live streams to mostly Amercian end users. Running a business with 30 employees is tough to do, and when the US dollar drops from almost $1.40 to $.98 as it did in the last few years, companies with lots of people (read: lots of expenses) need to react. I am happy to say that everyone here at 2Much are friends, and when lay offs have to occur as they did, it is not a pleasant thing. It is very very hard to do when you care for your employees as much as I do. You are a 1 man show so you will never have to worry about that, but trust me, it's not a position that anyone would like to be in. |
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03-12-2008 | #53 | |
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In order to get a Bracelet which got you on the bus and then to the party, you needed to be a registered, paid attendee of the Webmaster Access West show. You did not need to wear your badge to the party, but you definately needed to be a registered attendee. It was not a $1000 profit, it was a $750.00 profit, and I already answered your question in my previous post. The 5% holdback is a company policy that we have had for years. It helps to protect us from any liabilities that customers using our MBase system may have from affecting us. As our customers buy and sell from our mbase system, we payout to those customers every 2 weeks, exactly like any other billing company does. The 5% holdback protects us in the event that they have chargebacks, just like CCBill does. If a customer was hit with massive chargebacks and we paid out 100% to them, we would be in trouble and have a hard time recovering that money. If the concept of holdbacks / chargebacks is alien to you Gonzo, there are plenty of billing companies with similar practices out there. Do some research. Mark Prince |
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03-12-2008 | #55 |
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My ccbill account pays out direct to the affiliates. You must have a new type that allows you to get an extra 5% off the top. Or are you a billing company too now?
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03-12-2008 | #57 | |
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Just to make sure, are you including me as one of the 2 bashers? I will withhold any further reply until you answer that. .
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Besides Ill do what I want here and if you dont like it you can leave. Like you said you were doing last time. Lie 4 or 5?
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03-12-2008 | #59 | |
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Spread the piss!!! Butting in again... because I can.
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03-12-2008 | #60 | |
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I don't know who Tony Morgan is, and I can't speak for him or say if he had his badge or not, sorry. No, we are not quite a billing company, but: Each of our customers can sell and buy streams from each other when they share their streams with the common "pool", called Mbase. It is a way of populating sites with video chat streams and working together instead of competing against each other. What 2Much does is gurantee that each client gets paid on time for any streams they sell to mbase. We guarantee it because we are the ones making the actual payment. 2Much takes a risk in doing this because it means that we have to collect on the customers who are doing the buying. How do we make sure that we get paid? 2 Ways. First, all new customers have to keep funds on account. Once we have established a healthy work relationship, credit may be possible, but we do so very carefully. Next, as we payout to each customer who sells their streams to us, we impose a 5% holdback which, just like a billing company, is properly accounted for and paid out as a "returning holdback" 6 months later. All of this is carefully documented and includes detail as a part of our accounting system that we wrote as a part of the entire LiveCamNetwork 2.0 system. I hope this answers your question. Mark Prince http://www.2Much.net |
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03-12-2008 | #61 | |
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And dont cry to me when she posts that email. Ive already got a copy of it.
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03-12-2008 | #62 |
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Here is the email you sent me.... [FONT='Calibri','sans-serif']Hi Shellee, [/font] [FONT='Calibri','sans-serif']I forgot to tell you - we have finalized our plans with Playboy. If you would like to be involved here are the details below. You can also see some pictures located here: http://www.2much.net/playboy.html[/font] [FONT='Calibri','sans-serif'][/font] [FONT='Calibri','sans-serif']Mark[/font] Party with 2Much at the Playboy Mansion. Dear Client, 2Much Internet Services Inc is pleased to invite you to join us at the word famous Playboy Mansion, in Beverly Hills California, for a unique networking Event on Friday Night November 16th 2007 at 8pm. Celebrate your new business venture in style as you party at the Mansion, meet other business people, models, celebs, movers and shakers. Among the attendees will be other 2Much Customers, Top Models, Agencies and traffic driving companies, Top Billing and other vital to fast-tracking your business success. This is THE networking event of the year that YOU SHOULD NOT MISS. Hugh Hefner (aka "Hef") is the supreme bachelor of our time and the ultimate "lifestyle entrepreneur". He has forever changed our world by breaking the boundaries related to sexuality, age, and gender. He created a revolutionary magazine with naked women and great articles in a time when sexuality was not even appropriate to talk about. Now, this is your chance to Party in his home. 2Much Internet Services Inc is very pleased to offer you this night that you will never forget. Delicious food, top-shelf drinks, in one of the most famous places on earth, High Hefner's Playboy Mansion. See the spectacular grounds, home, and of course, the infamous "Gotto" swimming pool. The cost is $1900.00 Per Person. Availability is EXTREMELY LIMITED. Orders must be placed and paid for by FRIDAY SEPTEMBER 30TH. All Sales are final. Transportation from downtown Los Angeles will be provided and mandatory. You will NOT be able to take your own transportation to this event. All non-recognized cars and limo's will be turned away at the gate. Only 1 pass per person will be available. Absolutely no invitations will be re-issued in the event you lose yours. Must be 18+. Proper Attire is required. If you would like to attend please contact me, Mark Prince at xxxxxxxx or toll free xxxxxxxx , or by email at xxxxxxxxx. See you at the Playboy Mansion! Mark Prince, CEO 2Much Internet Services Inc. http://www.2Much.net |
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03-12-2008 | #64 | |
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Shit that doesnt leave much profit does it? Guess that extra 5% is needed to "float".
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Hmm. I was asking Shelee, but, you know better anyway. I am not a basher. I am however, an asshole
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Nope - I really am so lost in this whole thing as I have actual employees and work to do. So, thank you for the heads up so I could fix the error you noticed
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03-12-2008 | #67 |
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We are BOTH assholes!
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Try my method with them. Shock Collars Increased the productivity around here about 200%
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Gonzo you are the one accusing me, so why don't you post it here? (And don't forget the header information while you're at it). And seriously, Shelle and I are no fans of each other but this is not something I would ever say to anyone. In fact I applaud Shellee for trying various new ideas to find something that works for her. The adult business is full of "Amateurs" - I don't mean content, I mean people such as webmasters experimenting with new ideas and trying to make a buck. Everyone started the exact same way, you too, Gonzo, started with a computer and your very first line of HTML. We as the adult community need to welcome people like that into this arena and help them any way we can, for the simple reason that someone reached out and helped us when we needed it. I know you are going to bash me for saying this Gonzo, but this is what kills me about you and your board. There are very few helpful posts and threads here. It seems like nothing but drama (real or fake), and you seem way too eager to push people away for the wrong reasons. This is why I walked away from your board the last time. To me, the best board out there is http://www.ynot.com. Helpful and smart, its where I send all new employees and all new customers too. It’s a great resource, and thankfully heavily moderated to keep the subjects on-track in any given thread. They take their board (and their chosen industry), seriously, and that’s why they are kings at least in my book. Thankfully, the industry is evolving. Everyone is making lots of money and now we're looking for ways to protect our businesses, learn more from others, network and make friends. I think forums need to evolve in the same way otherwise the true moneymakers will start seeking other boards in hopes of having more serious discussions about things that really affect their business. Regards, Mark Prince http://www.2Much.net |
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Additionally in regards to the Playboy party this was a fundraiser so not only was Mark Prince increasing the price almost 100% you lost on the painted girls and other promotional add ons and missed out on the tax deduction by taking his offer which I did not. I guess I missed out on meeting all his great contacts which he values at as much as the original cost of a ticket.
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03-12-2008 | #71 |
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Shellee -
You're right, it was $1900.00, not $2000. That brings our profit to $650, not $750. My mistake. Nice of you to notice me at the party. I didn't realize I was so interesting. And what can I say? I'm a shy person. Cheers! Mark |
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Gee Mark then why do you log in here every day?
And I get along fine with the Ynot crew. I guess youve been too busy with your "contacts" to notice that Im good friends with Jay and Conner and have been for several years. The indignant card doesnt work with me Mark. Its Shellee's email one and her choice to post it. Note shes already posted one. Your the one laying off people and you constantly want to offer me advice on how to run this board. The board runs fine as it has for several years. If anything its a much kinder and gentler board than it has been in the past. The people that complain usually are the ones caught in lies and scams. I thought you were leaving? Quote:
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03-12-2008 | #73 | |
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First CCBill charges us only 10.5%, not 17%. Customers who have CCBill accounts are paid directly by ccbill, minus whatever per-transaction rate CCBill choses to charge them (usually its 14.5% I think). And as is industry standard, CCBill holds back 5%, and returns it 6 months later. Paycom, I think, has a 10% holdback but I'm not sure. When 2Much pays out to its customers we also have a 5% holdback, and payout this 5% 6 months later. Again, industry standard. I hope this clears it up for you. Mark Prince http://www.2Much.net |
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As I said, we partnered with someone else in the end so we did not get to have our name painted on the girls. But hey if the money you spent at it worked for you then congratulations. I didn't know it was a fund raiser, Shellee. What charity was this for? |
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I don't log in every day. Sorry to burst your ego. However despite what I may think of your board as it currently stands I don't doubt that it serves a useful purpose, and will only get better as time goes by.
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Gonzo, its normal to fight and argue on the boards, but its really not necessary to make those so personal. As you know there are lots of fights and drama at gfy.com, right? Did you also know that their warm-up parties at Internext are constantly the best? A fight online does not necessarily translate into face to face fight. We're all adults here for cryin' out loud... of course you're friends with Jay and Connor. They're nice people! Who wouldn't want to be friends with them? Quote:
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03-12-2008 | #78 |
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Cool, thanks! I will contact them and see if we can't qualify. Since we're Canadian I doubt our idiot tax collectors will let us write it off but I'll try.
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You can leave anytime you want Mark. But we both know you will be back.
Food for thought. I was here before you started in this business and given your current course I will be here long afterwards. Shouldnt you be trying to bolster up business so you can hire those laid off back? Or maybe chasing down the "rogue computer user" that exists in charityland to change the workgroup? Or maybe to relabel yourself as an import/export business when we all sell fucking porn. Im paid to be here.
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What? You mean this is your JOB? All this time I thought you were the owner of this site. Oh well. Let's hope you don't get laid off! Cheers! Mark Prince http://www.2Much.net |
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Mark,
Wow - http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/showthread.php?t=89512 This really does put the icing on the cake. She was your highest producer and your sales girl. How bad are things? I guess I really do have influence - anyboody else what to screw me over? |
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Next you will be flinging french fries at mens assholes.
I guess you can raise the profits by firing asses. Me - I wouldnt want to be in the sector of this business that your in. More so now than ever so I hope that expansion goes well for ya. You should try working at your company though. When you treat it like a job like I do here... then you dont have to lay off people. Camgirls dont jump ship to other networks and you down have to downsize your computer and open yourself up to rogue computer users that have the same mac address you do running on the same DSL segment in montreal. I hope LAJ and Conner dont get too jealous. Quote:
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Boy this is turning into a real pissing contest...
... I'm ashamed of you all.
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I think its being so close to your old office that brings out the bad in me.
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If I needed someone to introduce me to all the movers and shakers I sure wouldn't pay a shy person to do it.
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Its not worth 2K to you?
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No Shellee, you're wrong (and you're wrong again too, Gonzo. Wow this must be a record for you!) That girl Bella looks a little like our girl Kedra, but its not her. And FYI, KEDRA is one of the very best converters here at LiveCamNetwork.com. And if it was her, I wouldnt mind. Unlike some companies we do not require exclusive contracts with our performers in a lame attempt to lock them in. They are completely free to work for any other companies they like. We instead work hard to earn their business. She has also been promoted to a sales agent at 2Much.net and is busy bringing in lots of new clients for us. Nice Try Gonzo (and Shellee). Is this the best that you can do? Mark Prince http://www.2Much.net |
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Let's just say I can think of better ways to spend $2k.
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Probably the smartest decision you've made in the past 24 hours.
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Yeah right. Do you really think that Camturbate would give up personal information? And besides, Kedra is standing right here Shellee and she's reading this. Would you like proof of this? Fuck...! m |
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I know of a few excellent places for relieving yourself.
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yeah! Take a fan sign type picture with the two of you and the date and shit! Let's keep this drama going! WOOooOOOoOoOo!
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MAC Addresses are known in a LAN (Local Area Network) environment. For example, you can tell your wireless router to accept a connection from your wireless computer by allowing only its MAC address to connect. However this MAC address is not available via a WAN, or Wide Area Network because it is simply not transmitted as a part of any tcp/ip packet. You can read more at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_address |
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You really do believe your bullshit. Please keep running your signature so everyone can decide for themselves. Maybe you can give us some more side step on the ROGUE MAC ADDRESS.
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Ive already heard about the summer sewerfest!
But Ive visted your stool at Sir Eds and Im going back to the Penguin tonight.
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