The Will Of The People? Mob Rule?

[Winetalk.com]

haven't you had enough about business-shmizness?

Where are the big boobed gals in gonzo's pic????

Bring 'em over - and the business will follow

[Anthony]

I just want everyone to know that Bishop is my friend.

If you think I put him through shit, this ain't nothing compared to what he's done to me.

[Bishop]

Originally Posted by Anthony

I just want everyone to know that Bishop is my friend.

If you think I put him through shit, this ain't nothing compared to what he's done to me.

I have no idea what I have ever done to Anthony.. must have been an accident if I did anything at all.

Why have you never mentioned that I did something?

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by Bishop

I have no idea what I have ever done to Anthony.. must have been an accident if I did anything at all.

Why have you never mentioned that I did something?

You kept your love from me for 2 years.

I was distraught.

This is me lashing out.

That, and I heard Gonzo snuggles better.

It's the competition.

[Bishop]

Originally Posted by Anthony

You kept your love from me for 2 years.

I was distraught.

This is me lashing out.

That, and I heard Gonzo snuggles better.

It's the competition.

You go from bashing me to this? You need help. I thought you left.

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by Bishop

You go from bashing me to this? You need help. I thought you left.

Seriously Ken, if you are going to run a board, you are gonna need thicker skin.

Have you forgotten the shit we got hit with back in the day? It's like you're this person who doesn't remember what it was like trying to figure out how we can make money using your javascript to make thousands of sites an hour.

Don't take this shit serious, it adds frown lines to your cute and cuddly face.

Fuck, when are you going to thank me for pushing views and getting ppl to post?

[Rcourt64]

You see, my point exactly. So who's post should be delete first? since this whole thread went from a question, to a bunch of personal critizing comments.

Moderators my ass.

[Winetalk.com]

Good question....
Hey, Bishop, want me edit this thread as a "mob rule" trial?

I am ready whenever you are and we'll compare both versions,
the original and MODerated.

[Raven]

Pay a moderator. Pay them well and they will not only run the board, they will attract people to post. There will always be asshole threads and they are taken in stride...and newbies and vets will all learn to play together.....

[Sabby]

Okay Bishop, I will mod your board for you.

I will attract you lots more rhetorical Sabby stalkers.

Anyone gets out of line and I will hunt them down and smother them with my BOOBS!!


Sabby

[Winetalk.com]

Originally Posted by Sabby

Okay Bishop, I will mod your board for you.

I will attract you lots more rhetorical Sabby stalkers.

Anyone gets out of line and I will hunt them down and smother them with my BOOBS!!


Sabby

I'll be out of line often...VERY often!

[Rcourt64]

Originally Posted by Sabby

Okay Bishop, I will mod your board for you.

I will attract you lots more rhetorical Sabby stalkers.

Anyone gets out of line and I will hunt them down and smother them with my BOOBS!!


Sabby

"is starting to drool & wants to start thinking of ways to get in trouble ...lol

[JoesHO]

Originally Posted by Raven

Pay a moderator. Pay them well and they will not only run the board, they will attract people to post. There will always be asshole threads and they are taken in stride...and newbies and vets will all learn to play together.....

Nick tried that idea, and ended up with only the paid mods around

[Hammer]

I've run a board before and I picked a small group of foks I trusted to moderate, but none of them had ban status. They could lock threads if something got out of hand until such time as I could see the thread and decide what to do. I only banned one person while I ran the board and that was Lawrence Connor. The idea of multiple mods that have total power is a mistake.

[Hell Puppy]

Over the years, we've seen communities ran all sorts of ways. Some heavily moderated, some not moderated AT ALL, and yeah I've even seen some instances very similar to "mob rule" as described here.

A seasoned experienced and mature user can be given moderator privs and no one will ever know they have it. The occasional post or user might just quietly disappear when appropriate, no fuss, no fanfare.

On the other hand, give it to someone new, or someone who has an ego, or just a general lack of experience and it's like giving a 4 year old a hammer. Everything he see's will need to be pounded.

As for Oprano in particular, I haven't seen moderation or lack of being an issue. What you need is more of the people who can be the straws that stir the drink.

The whole attitude of no one is worthy of having a conversation with unless they've made $30K a month or whatever needs to go. I'm with Bishop on that one, show me you've got some brains and are willing to work, and I'm perfectly willing to show you how to make both me and you some money if you're a newbie. If they're content to work for beer money, fine, just pass one down for me every now and then and I dont mind.

[Vick]

Originally Posted by Hell Puppy

If they're content to work for beer money, fine, just pass one down for me every now and then and I dont mind.

This is another issue we're at odds on
Beer money guys fuck up a lot of stuff

[Hell Puppy]

Originally Posted by Vick

This is another issue we're at odds on
Beer money guys fuck up a lot of stuff

I've seen some old timers fuck up some stuff too...

[Vick]

Bad idea

The board will find it's own ebb and flow, idiots will be exposed and good business acumen will prosper


Anthony, you are pretty fucking funny

and you can never take anything too seriously on a message board

[Vick]

You have a point ;-)

[Raven]

Bishop, regardless of how you run this board or any other, it would behoove you to figger out when to ban and whom.

Just my two cents....but the most recent banning was like a premature ejaculation...

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by Raven

Bishop, regardless of how you run this board or any other, it would behoove you to figger out when to ban and whom.

Just my two cents....but the most recent banning was like a premature ejaculation...

And now its a part of history.

[Jace]

what would be real fun is if someone installed this

http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=49810

for those that don't want to click

This hack is an alternative to banning a user. As the name suggests a user who
gets hit with this hack will become truly miserable while trying to access
your board.

So here is what really happens to a miserable user:

- There is a random 60-120 second delay each time they click on a link.
- 90% of times they have no search engine acccess.
- 75% of the times they get the server too busy error.

If they don't get the server too busy error:
- 50% of the times they may get a blank page
- 30% of the times they may get forwarded to the forum main page
- 20% of the time they may be able to see the page they asked for.

after doing all the math in actuality they have only a 5% chance of seeing the
page they clicked on. What kills them is the time they have to wait before
anything happens.

I actually once tracked a miserable user and watched him suffer for 2 whole
hours before he was able to make a simple post.

This hack is considered one of the most sadistic hacks on my board.

The hack allows you to make your user miserable via the admin CP. It also
allows you to search for all miserable users through the admin CP as well.

Also in showthread.php, it appends a red status that is only visibly to admins
and mods stating that a user is miserable.


Tables affected by this hack: user

Files affected by this hack: global.php, showthread.php, admin/user.php

[Rolo]

Originally Posted by Jace

what would be real fun is if someone installed this

Jace, I know the others are gonna get pissed now since I will be the whistleblower. However Oprano has had a similiar thing installed since 2003...

So here is what really happens to a new user on Oprano:

- There are random group attacks on the new user posting lead by the "oldtimer bots".
- 90% of times the "Gonzo bot" will step in and give support for the new user - this is to make the new user stay just a bit longer (more pageviews)
- 75% of the times the "Serge bot" will ask for pictures of the new user´s boobs or man boobs (the pictures are auto submited to Shemp´s tgp)

If the new users are still here after 2 days, then they will get these messages when posting:
- 50% of the times they will get called fucking newbies
- 30% of the times they will get called clueless idiots
- 20% of the time they will just be ignored

I see you signed up in 2004, so unless the "Nick bot" have moved your account from the "newbie" list to the "oldtimer" list, then you will still get this treatment, when posting on Oprano... oh, and since the "Nick bot" is banned, then I guess you will be stuck on the newbie list - turf luck Newbie ;-)))

[Bishop]

I appreciate the opinions that have been expressed both in this thread and through all the icqs. I find it a shame that so many people felt the need to contact Gonzo and I privately instead of posting their ideas.. some of those ideas were very clever.

Hopefully everyone will feel more comfortable speaking publically in the months to come.

We will let everyone know what has been decided in the next week or so.