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09-24-2005 | #1 |
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Anyone watching C-span right now?
They are covering the big anti war rally in D.C. Ramsey Clark is speaking right now. I feel like I'm in a time warp, except that the cops and national guard aren't beating up the protesters.
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Re: Anyone watching C-span right now?
A Ramsey Clark speech is like a flashback ...
I feel so left out - I agree with the theme of tomorrow's "pro-war" protest ("Cindy Doesn't Speak For Me"), but feel sorry for morons who lack the mental capacity to comprehend that you can support the troops without supporting the lying cocksuckers who sent them there.
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Times are different now. The public has to learn that soldiers go where they're ordered to go and do what they're ordered to do. The ones giving the orders are the ones who bear the responsibility. Not to mention the ones who voted in the ones who give the orders. |
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I sincerely hope that the Iraqi democracy we are building lasts longer than peace with honor did.
I'm not terribly optomistic.
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Attempting to apply a new form of government to a millenias old problem isn't going to work. |
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Until we either learn or acknowledge the headset of these "true believers," we're not going to be successful. It's nearly impossible to fight an enemy who doesn't give a damn whether he lives or dies, or in some of these cases, prefers death. |
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The IRA, UDA and many more, make me think we're the stupid ones! Try living in Northern Ireland being a Brit back in 79....
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I need to add: A Catholic Brit.
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But...the Catholics would be prohibited from doing that by church doctrine, and I think the Protestants also would frown on it heavily. A Catholic suicide can't have a church funeral or be buried in the church cemetary. (I think they use the nearest dumpster.) The Protestants aren't happy with suicide but they're not as severe as the Catholics. |
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I think JR hit the nail on the head when he said "shoot them in the face", I might have quoted that off a little but it's spot on.
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;-))) Which was exactly how dumb it was....best friends coming to blows or more over a religions which neither really cared about , but it was centuries of not so much religious differences but socio economic reasons that laid the seed. ie .Protestants had/have more money and more land and an disproportionate amopunt of "control" Hence why a great deal of American's of Irish Descent are catholics , whereas a lot of Canadian Irish are of Protestant descent. American Irish were starving and left seeking life...not freedom...life an escape from starvation, and Canadian Irish were the younger sons trying to expand there land holdings or impress the family.(((not a lot of people know that;-)))) Now don't get me on a rant.. |
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and ummm in the late 80s I know New England Irish were still raising money for the IRA...or terrorists, as are the UDA.
All extremeists should be taken out and shot. ;-)) |
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And yes, all extremists should be taken out and shot...twice. |
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Who gets to decide who's an extremist?
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Seriously - who gets to decide who is an extremist? At various times, advocates of the ten hour work day, advocates of excluding anyone under the age of twelve in the workforce, or advocates of allowing those with a vagina the right to own property and vote were considered extremists. Even the success of advocates of non-violence like Ghandi and King was due as much to the threat of violence those movements attempted to defuse. Stalin was very effective at dealing with extremists; Hitler was probably equally efficient. Works good in theory - but it's a pretty slippery slope.
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Remarks like "shooting all extremists" will remain just that...remarks. |
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IRA, UDA, BMP, BMF, NF, KKK, ... are few extremists just off the top of my head. Notice only one is from the US, I know there's shit loads more but the first 5 are Geo targeted.
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Do the KKK have an office in Washington? We're far to lax here in the UK!
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They have as much chance as the next party that their leader will be Prime Minister one day! Not a lobbyist - more an extremist that's learned how to play the game.
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