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Originally posted by RyanLanane@Feb 11 2005, 08:26 PM First of all on the Depo, I have heard ALOT of bad things about that like consistent bleeding for literally 3 months before things stabilize. My ex went on it after we broke up (as naturally she became a TOTAL slut, anyways... lol) she had a 6 month period I was told by a neutral friend.. That would suck. I have heard the same from other woman about not only that but other side effects.
I Like the fact that nowadays people discuss this type of thing more openly and it is considered mroe 'socially acceptable'. 10 years ago I NEVER Would of admitted I suffered from agoraphobia at all at ANY point of my life, not even depression, or social anxiety. I do however think that doctors jump on the "you have depression, take this pill" bandwagon due to drug companies paying them off in ceertain ways to do so. My girlfriend went in about cold sores, and was sent home with anti-depressants being told her depression was causing stress which causes the cold sores? WTF ??? Needless to say she never took them. LOL
I agree with your post Grimm, I never knew you had a background in this type of material and the discussion is interesting. The barrier was in fact the front door and the sense of relief I had when I got through that was OVERWHELMING. I had a TRUE BIPOLAR HIGH and add in a MASSIVE NATURAL HIGH lol. That is when I started appreciating life for what it was.
As far as your statement about true agoraphobia, maybe I don't have True Agoraphobia but just had a short term version of it which was actually social anxiety made more serious by the fact I never left the house. The house was my comfort zone socially speaking.
"Agoraphobia has genetic links, can be tied to drug use, especially stimulants, or other drugs which consistantly cause a severe paranoid reaction. "
My dad had serious problems and was a heavy drug abuser. Let's just say I had a 5 gram a day coke habit for over a year in a row, I nearly lost my life, LITERALLY to that drug. So again, you are right. Glad I have been clean for over a year now.. Even though stimulants aggraviated me so much and made me feel anxiety every time I did them I was drawn to them, was very weird.
As far as going off the Paxil, I went off it because it made me feel so lousy while I was on it. Metallica taste in mouth, increases anxiety, you name it. I honestly think my social phobia is quite simply due to me not having a social life any more except for a few friends and my small comfort zone. I think the Bi-Polar is about as real as it gets and I should be on a mood-stabilizer but they have more negative effects than positive on my life, and as all BI-Polars I enjoy the highs and since I can handle them without them having an adverse effect on my life I choose to take just an anti-depresant to avoid the lows which I have more of a tendancy to hit.
well as far as the cold sore goes.. stress, drinking, and other factors weaken the immune system allowing the herpes symplex virus to present... but its a bit of a stretch to prescribe for it, when there are plenty of OTC symptom treatments, unless there was a severe stress or depression problem.
as for the drug habit, my aunt was the same way. did not leave her apartment for over a year..... acute onset of agoraphobia caused by consistant cocaine use over a long period of time. Glad you ended up better than she did
Severe bypolar disorder is generally treated with lithium. but an SSRI mood elevator topped with a mild anti convulsant to control the mania is common for slow cycle bipolar patients. prozac and depakote, basically.
a cocaine habit and the anxiety from being near it is just addiction man. It is not a pleasant thing.. you can never catch the first high. Eventually you realize it is making your life hell, but its a chemical addiction. Cold turkey is the only way to beat the physical.. change of lifestyle and understanding of the nature of addiction helps with the psychological end.
Grimm ... excellent posts & I agreed with so many points you made - few of us give our bodies the right tools to function right (the right diet, exercise and some time in the outdoors) so we're all going to get fucked up in some way at some time.
webmasters are a very unhealthy bunch - how many of us make toasted cheese foccacia's with avocado and ham at 4am? LOL or packets of cookies or savory snacks?! i know its not just me ;-))) I did that for a few years, eating just stupidly, and as a result I can't eat hardly any of those foods now!
I've never had a health problem in my life up until a few years ago, have always been athletic and eaten well - albeit with a wierd schedule thanks to the restaurant.
I made a huge change 1 day after visiting a naturopath, and was getting better within a month, after a year of doctors making up bullshit conditions that were nothing to do with what was causing them. Now I do a combination of yoga, eating lots of green vege's and beans, no bread, pasta or dairy, vegetable juice in the morning and as much sleep as my body needs.
every condition is the cause of some kind of chemical occurence in the body - too much yeast or too much acid are the cause of many forms of cancer. i'm a firm believer of food as medicine, and think it can cure almost anything. ;-)
Originally posted by cj@Feb 12 2005, 04:34 AM
webmasters are a very unhealthy bunch - how many of us make toasted cheese foccacia's with avocado and ham at 4am? LOL or packets of cookies or savory snacks?! i know its not just me ;-))) I did that for a few years, eating just stupidly, and as a result I can't eat hardly any of those foods now!
Thanks for helping me hijack this thread and divert the subject to food....
Food is my vice, obviously.
My favorite late night snack is grilled ham and cheese. I love that period right after the holidays where there's honey baked ham left over in the fridge. Slap some of that on a piece of bread along with a couple of slices of cheese (or better yet Velveeta slices!), cover it with another piece of bread to make a samitch and shove it in a George Foreman Grill.
The Foreman Grill is the ultimate grilled cheese machine!
Originally posted by gonzo@Feb 12 2005, 08:01 AM Of course we've found this place that serves up 35 shrimp buffalo style. If you get an order of loaded fries to come along with that....you dont need dessert there. Makes a hungry man into a shrimp hunter!
And for those of us watching our girlish figures, we can take some shrimp home and have it for breakfast in the AM
I have to admit food is something I savor. I've never had a drug or alcohol addiction, but food is about as close to something I could OD on as it comes. And if you've seen me lately, I've been ODing a lot!
Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Feb 11 2005, 09:00 PM One time we seriously considered buying a key , for our own consumption , in order to save money.......
Crazy fucked up times....
but we survived it.
Problem is...I really don't know what would happen if someone had some and passed the plate.
I like to think I'd say no.
Hell I've been teetotal too since Sept 8th.
I think deep down inside, we knew bying a key would have been just absolute madness. Though, we coulda got it cheap! hahahaha
A bout 3 weeks at the new Hardrock Cafe Casino down here in Sfla, I was hanging with some music industry guys, and they had an ounce on their bedroom table.
Even with their joking around, cause they saw that 1000 mile stare I had with it, I said no, can you believe it? I can't myself.
Originally posted by cj@Feb 12 2005, 01:34 AM Grimm ... excellent posts & I agreed with so many points you made - few of us give our bodies the right tools to function right (the right diet, exercise and some time in the outdoors) so we're all going to get fucked up in some way at some time.
webmasters are a very unhealthy bunch - how many of us make toasted cheese foccacia's with avocado and ham at 4am? LOL or packets of cookies or savory snacks?! i know its not just me ;-))) I did that for a few years, eating just stupidly, and as a result I can't eat hardly any of those foods now!
I've never had a health problem in my life up until a few years ago, have always been athletic and eaten well - albeit with a wierd schedule thanks to the restaurant.
I made a huge change 1 day after visiting a naturopath, and was getting better within a month, after a year of doctors making up bullshit conditions that were nothing to do with what was causing them. Now I do a combination of yoga, eating lots of green vege's and beans, no bread, pasta or dairy, vegetable juice in the morning and as much sleep as my body needs.
every condition is the cause of some kind of chemical occurence in the body - too much yeast or too much acid are the cause of many forms of cancer. i'm a firm believer of food as medicine, and think it can cure almost anything. ;-)
I'm seeing a nutrionist, and trainer. End of this year, I'm gonna look like the guy in your avatar.
You are so right, food is everything, or rather, lack of certain ones.
Originally posted by grimm@Feb 12 2005, 08:26 AM Gigi.. Post partum depression is very real. We just dont know what causes it.. there are a couple schools of thought, a hormonal reaction (even an ellergy). High levels of certain hormones exascerbate feelings of unsurity, or inadequacy, or fear for the child. psychological realizations of the finality of the birth of a child, or feelings regarding the changes, both mentally and physically,that come with it.. there are a bunch of theories. Nobody knows for sure, but Doctor's all take it very seriously.. it is a very severe condition.. only compounded by the guilt women have felt for a long time for feeling like that after experiencing a wonderful event (in the eyes of society). wrong stigmas put on the disease, for sure.
Absolutely....societal pressures certainly have their place in making the depression worse due to guilt....
Are there adequate studies being done on post-natal depression? I get the idea that doctors are aware of it, but there are not enough studies out there trying to figure out why it happens. I feel like doctors just throw medication at it and hope for the best. I mean, ultimately, medications are just a bandaid, and if we can discover the root of the problem, we may be able to stop it before it starts.
I won't go into the theory that, in today's society, in general, men's dis-'ease's are tended to much quicker and more thoroughly than women's dis-'ease's....but, in this specific case, I am somewhat jaded and lean towards this idea. Especially because it is linked to mental illness. If a woman is feeling 'blue' the doc throws her some pills...if a man is 'blue', they do a bunch of tests first and try to discover the root of the problem before medicating.....
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It is much easier for any medical professional to quick diagnose and treat, or be quick on the referral to someone else. The health care system is a cattle call.. and is getting worse.. this is HUGE as the largest generation retires and gets old, and the bigger ones are coming down the pipe..Health insurance premiums are going through the roof. Medical malpractice insurance is ridiculous. Doctor's feel comfortable just going about the same old patterns, as there is relatively low risk to them or the patient, and if they pass the buck, the problem is no longer theirs.
As far as studies for post natal or post partem depression. sure, there are lots going on. But those things take time, and willing participants.
Originally posted by grimm@Feb 12 2005, 03:48 PM It is much easier for any medical professional to quick diagnose and treat, or be quick on the referral to someone else. The health care system is a cattle call.. and is getting worse.. this is HUGE as the largest generation retires and gets old, and the bigger ones are coming down the pipe..Health insurance premiums are going through the roof. Medical malpractice insurance is ridiculous. Doctor's feel comfortable just going about the same old patterns, as there is relatively low risk to them or the patient, and if they pass the buck, the problem is no longer theirs.
As far as studies for post natal or post partem depression. sure, there are lots going on. But those things take time, and willing participants.
Yes, it always amazes me when people complain about the high cost of prescriptions, but many of the top used/most expensive prescriptions could be cut down substantially with taking care of yourself both physically and with mental therapy.
Originally posted by grimm@Feb 12 2005, 11:41 AM Personally, i think the bias is the age old "women are more emotional" crap. If a woman is feeling depressed, they are "moody", while men often don't discuss such things until it becomes such a weight that they are dangerous ton themselves or each other, or lose their job, wife, family, etc... so the bias might exist because physicians tend to only see the very worse of the illness in men.
Also, the whole "hormone" thing, which is frightening when you consider these people went to medical school, and should be well aware that every chemical that exists in women, exists in one form or another in men. the Y chromosome doesnt negate the effect of such things
Agreed on all fronts......
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Originally posted by gigi@Feb 12 2005, 03:24 PM Very, very true. I KNOW that there are lifestyle changes I could make that would alleviate at least SOME of my issues.....exercise is a HUGE one for me....exercise elevates seratonin levels which would certainly help in my case. h34r:
So you know you could take steps to reduce the problem yourself, but choose not to and remain unwell instead? That *knowing* is your instinct ... and its never wrong.
Originally posted by grimm@Feb 12 2005, 08:27 PM lol
*giving up* drinking beer.
drinking beer was never hard at all, it was really easy
LMAO
alcohol was an easy one for me - never liked it much anyway. i think, even more beneficial than giving up the alcohol was giving up the shit that gets mixed with it.
soda is EVIL. i find if i drink any soda at all, i get addicted to it and find myself craving it for days after. 80% of ADD, hyperactivity etc in kids could be prevented if soda didn't exist.
02-12-2005
.. fortunately all long behind me.
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