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Old 01-20-2005   #51
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Prior to the ratification of the nineteenth amendment on August 18th 1920, there is no way on earth the United States could be termed a democracy.

Denying over half your population the vote is really not democratic.

So I would claim New Zealand as the longest continual democracy in the world, which authorized women's suffrage in 1893, a full 27 years prior.
I call anachronism. How about 5th century BC Athens? Considered the prototype and yet not everyone had the right to vote. Not even close.
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My point is that whilst the United States is ahead of the curve when it comes to embracing democratic ideals, it has by no means been the leading light it claims to be.
I'd say the US was by far the most influential promoter of democracy the past three centuries. Both as the result of hot wars and cold. ;-)
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Advances in democracy have historically been adopted by other countries before the United States embraces them, just without the fanfare.
Sure, but it's very tricky because of state laws. Abolishing slavery for example. Happened in much of the world before the federal abolition in the US but happened in many states well before it happened in those same countries.

I agree. It doesn't make it a better brand. Pepsi might win taste tests but more companies still look to Coke as brand number one.
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