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Healthcare is not a political issue. It is a humane issue.
One citizen should not be treated better than another because they can afford better treatment. But that's the American way, isn't it? More money, more benefits.
Here's an interesting audio clip (only 4:11 long). You'll be surprised who is speaking, and his significance to the healthcare issue.
Originally posted by Evil Chris@Jan 22 2004, 07:29 AM Healthcare is not a political issue. It is a humane issue.
One citizen should not be treated better than another because they can afford better treatment. But that's the American way, isn't it? More money, more benefits.
Here's an interesting audio clip (only 4:11 long). You'll be surprised who is speaking, and his significance to the healthcare issue.
i think you are taking an extreme view of things. the argument against social vs private health care is old. both systems are equally flawed.
thank god that we can at least have the choice of paying to world class health care, which judging by the total number of Canadians who come to the US for treatment, must be a good thing.
Originally posted by Evil Chris@Jan 22 2004, 11:29 AM One citizen should not be treated better than another because they can afford better treatment. But that's the American way, isn't it? More money, more benefits.
Better car, better house, better schools, better clothes, better food, better life after retirement.....yep - in America, the vast majority of the time, the harder you work the better off you are. Is it somehow different in Canada? When I worked for a Canadian company, anyone who had any $$ had supplemental insurance because the national plan took too long to get appointments, elective surgery, etc. Seems in Canada citizens are also treated better when they can afford better also.
Unfortunately, there are WAY too many times those who don't work at all are treated better than those who do, for instance: Medicaid, food stamps, government housing, etc. :angry:
Our government has screwed up almost everything they've gotten their hands on - national health care will be no different.
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Originally posted by Evil Chris@Jan 22 2004, 09:29 AM Healthcare is not a political issue. It is a humane issue.
One citizen should not be treated better than another because they can afford better treatment. But that's the American way, isn't it? More money, more benefits.
Here's an interesting audio clip (only 4:11 long). You'll be surprised who is speaking, and his significance to the healthcare issue.
Food is far more important than healthcare. We all need to eat very frequently or we will die, whereas in many cases, disease can take years to kill us off.
If you want a humane issue, shouldn't the state provide food first, even before healthcare?
I saw Bush talking out of both sides of his mouth re: social health care.
On one hand he supports private health savings accounts, and says that he's against socialized health care.
But then he calls for a computerized system of everyone's medical records.
If folks can't see the contradictions in that, or how he's trying to appease both sides, I'm stunned.
Remember Gore's call for a medical id card and national database of medical records? Same thing - only the people who opposed it then are eerily silent now. Why? Just because it's a republican stating it? Bah.
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Originally posted by Hell Puppy@Jan 22 2004, 07:57 PM Come on, surely you can come up with some sort of intelligent arguement for why people who get an education, work hard and make good decisions about their life should support lazy listless dumbasses who would rather suck off of the government tit.
What the fuck does that have to do with social darwinism.
So basically what you are saying is that when I said "social darwinism", you had no idea what the fuck I was talking about.
Know your place in life is where you want to be,
Don't let them tell you that you owe it all to me.
Keep on looking forward; no use in looking 'round;
Hold your head above the ground and they won't bring you down.
Anthem of the heart and anthem of the mind
A funeral dirge for eyes gone blind
We marvel after those who sought
The wonders of the world, wonders of the world,
Wonders of the world they wrought.
Live for yourself - there's no one else
More worth living for
Begging hands and bleeding hearts will only cry out for more
Well, I know they've always told you
Selfishness was wrong
Yet it was for me, not you, I came to write this song
Above Lyrics were inspired by the book "Anthem" by Ayn Rand
I'm more of an Ayn Rand fan than a Rush fan - Alex Lifeson got busted New Years eve
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When I worked for a Canadian company, anyone who had any $$ had supplemental insurance because the national plan took too long to get appointments, elective surgery, etc. Seems in Canada citizens are also treated better when they can afford better also. 
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