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Old 02-15-2005   #1
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So in response to Brad attempting to make The sheep look at me in a bad light, I feel the need to respond.

1.) Bradshaw quote " Joe, I am sure he appreciates an idiot like you standing up for him. Newbie.
Where were you in 1998? Burning trash in peoples lots? Amazing what a google search of your name brings up. "

My reply-- I did own a demolition business back in 1998 I was burning roof timbers that were deemed to be hazadours material ( roughly 25K - 30K worth if taken to the dump and dump fees were paid)
I was fined by the state in the amount of roughly 5K in an out of court settlement that was reached.

( hardly earth shaking news) or some big alleged dirty past that they keep alluding to and when pressed offer this as the answear.

2.) Originally Posted by BradShaw
"Why sue someone that has no $ and works flea markets on the weekends?"


My true concern here is whom is discussing things with Bradshaw? but considering I live in the same town as AaronM ( knowing he will be searching for some type of way to show me in some percieved bad light as he has been doing for quite some time now to no avail. and this information will send him searching flea markets for me this weekend. I figure I would put this in proper context for the sheep to understand.)

My mother is retired from the air force, and her and my step father really enjoy working as oppossed to sitting at home. so I rented a room at a local flea market for her some time ago, ( my wife and her are into collectible glass , and pottery things like wheller, McCoy, roseville fiesta, and depression glass to mention a few . my wife sells it on e-bay) and I swear they go to every auction or garage sale they can find and accumulate more junk than I can store along with it LOL

Well My grandmother fell and broke her hip so my mother is out of the state taking care of her ( she is 96 yrs old) My Step father has alshiemers and is with her, My mothers only request to me was if I would keep her flea market spot so when she got "home" she could resume her "normal" life again.

After I got back from vegas I was notified from the flea market that I could no longer just pay the fee for the reserved room I have, but that someone actualy has to work it as well ( they do not like having empty or closed rooms as it hurts their business I was explained) so for the past few weeks I go out and work it to keep the spot and honor the request of the flea market owner in order to allow my mother a simple pleasure of feeling like she has something to return to.

if this is something that effects your judgment of me , then I suggest you do not do business with me, as brad would like to have you do.

and Brad FUCK YOU!!! you ignorant asshole ( I would expect you to not know the context of what you speak as you seem to do that all too often) and as far as who revealed this information to Brad, I will now look at you in a different light of course. as well.

so come on by AaronM and take my picture as you told someone on icq you were going to do, but hold on to your camera very tightly, cause I hear the floors are awful slippery there .





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bah, don't sweat it
I love flea markets ;-)
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Joe, you don't like Brad. Don't let what he thinks or says about you bother you. It's a waste of energy

And I like flea markets too (and I love the glass stuff you're talking about!)
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flea markets Rock!

so does joe

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He is simply a moronic little terd.
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Joe, you don't like Brad. Don't let what he thinks or says about you bother you. It's a waste of energy

And I like flea markets too (and I love the glass stuff you're talking about!)
You're absolutely right Peaches.

Joe, Brad is not worth the expenditure of energy. Channel it into more productive areas.


And I love flea markets too.
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i don't like flea markets - you have to get up early, it's mostly cold and it's raining. it rains every time i have been to a flea market. it's a curse. and because i get up late all the good things are always sold when i finally arrive. and i hate negotiating - so i always pay too much. flea market sucks. :angry:

but i don't mind if others have fun there.
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Ahh, flea markets. Jesse and I had our business start at flea markets. Selling baseball cards and candy.
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why do you even care what this clown thinks about you bro?
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so does joe

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joe almost anyone has a friend that works in some government office or police station...im sure it is not hard to get info on just about anyone.
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Ahh, flea markets. Jesse and I had our business start at flea markets. Selling baseball cards and candy.
that was also one of the platinum bros first ventures way before the internet
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My true concern here is whom is discussing things with Bradshaw? but considering I live in the same town as AaronM ( knowing he will be searching for some type of way to show me in some percieved bad light as he has been doing for quite some time now to no avail. and this information will send him searching flea markets for me this weekend. I figure I would put this in proper context for the sheep to understand.)

so come on by AaronM and take my picture as you told someone on icq you were going to do, but hold on to your camera very tightly, cause I hear the floors are awful slippery there .





Hey Joe...Leave me out of your childish bullshit and lies.

1: Until now, I never new anything about you and fle markets.

2: I've never made any comments about taking pics of you...TO ANYBODY.

I stopped worrying about you a long time ago. I know you can not be trusted, I know you stab people in the back, I know you listen to others and take their word as gospel then use that mis-information against others. I know all of this because you have done it to me personally and you will most likely continue to do so. Knock yourself out man...I couldn't care less.


This little battle of yours is pethetic and I am not involved in any way, nor do I care to be.


Awefully nice of you to use my name to stir more drama though....Even nicer of you to send me the link on ICQ in order to bait me into a piss match with you.

Not gonna happen because you and your fucked up paronoid pot smoking version of reality are not worth my time.

Good day and good luck.

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Oh and for the record....Big fucking deal if you own, work, or sweep the floors of a Flea Market. Money is money and if that's what you want to do to make ends meet then go for it. There are certainly worse things to do than that.

Who fucken cares?
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"My reply-- I did own a demolition business back in 1998 I was burning roof timbers that were deemed to be hazadours material ( roughly 25K - 30K worth if taken to the dump and dump fees were paid)
I was fined by the state in the amount of roughly 5K in an out of court settlement that was reached."


Nick..hmm illegal dumping, fires..I suspect Joe may actually be a pikey!!!

Have you checked his Romany "do-as-you-likey" credentials..we must be told!
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BTW I actually visted Weasel's board and noted that he still says he owns a Ferrari.

It is leased..he must be reminded of that.
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Hey Joe don't let these guys get to you. There will always be haters no matter where you go or what you do. I go to the Flea Market whenever I can, and what your doing for your mom shows how much your family means to you.


Do you think these same muthafuckas your responding to would do the same? <_<
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Oh and for the record....Big fucking deal if you own, work, or sweep the floors of a Flea Market. Money is money and if that's what you want to do to make ends meet then go for it. There are certainly worse things to do than that.

Who fucken cares?
amen.


who fucking cares.


Joesho... do you really think anyone thinks twice about doing business with you because you take care of a flea market spot? i didn't think so. There was a time when reputation was everything in this business. But in todays market it is what have you done for me lately. You keep doing solid deals and holding up your end and that is all that counts. Don't let kids and words typed on websites rattle you. nobody is going to "bring you down" except yourself, if you let such nonsense effect the way you do business. Be a pro, just go about your daily work, and as the sex pistols said "Never mid the bollocks"
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the name you make for yourself by being solid will far outlast any name someone tries to make by talking shit about nothing. Its called growing up in business. Not everyone can do it.


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JoesHo When The Draft Comes Back:

("KID, HAVE YOU REHABILITATED YOURSELF?")

Joe went over to the sargent, said, "Sargeant, you got a lot a damn gall to
ask me if I've rehabilitated myself, I mean, I mean, I mean that just, I'm
sittin' here on the bench, I mean I'm sittin here on the Group W bench
'cause you want to know if I'm moral enough join the army, burn women,
kids, houses and villages after bein' a litterbug."

He looked at me and
said, "Kid, we don't like your kind, and we're gonna send you fingerprints
off to Washington."
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Oh and for the record....Big fucking deal if you own, work, or sweep the floors of a Flea Market. Money is money and if that's what you want to do to make ends meet then go for it. There are certainly worse things to do than that.

Who fucken cares?
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Joe... dont sweat the small stuff... and trust me.. its ALL small stuff! ;-)

Besides.. you are a sexy cuddly hunka man! ;-)
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Ahh, flea markets. Jesse and I had our business start at flea markets. Selling baseball cards and candy.
*adding another point to checklist of common history



When we launched Red Hot Greetings, we made a bunch of print cards and went to the markets with them ... I spent 2 days counting how many people walked past, how many walked up to the stand, how many made a purchase and how many made comments. Traffic / Conversions / Content ;-)

BEST experiment in marketing I've ever done. Plus, we got to spend the day sitting in the sun and purving on the shirtless guys walking past

AND .... most importantly .... IT WAS FUN!


Joe, as everyone has said, who gives a fuck what a fat dumbass idiot with a trophy wife and bought friends thinks anyway? Brad's entire life is dedicated to impressing others, but when he can't impress them he copies what they do ... poorly.

He tries to cover up his insecurities about being a small dicked fat loser by surrounding himself with morons he pays to post on his lame assed board. Every piece of energy you give to defending yourself to him has to come from somewhere ... and there are much better ways to invest your time.

At the end of the day its this simple .... you are part of a team that's not built on 1 mans ego. The Oprano team has a history of making big things happen ... Brad has a history of fucking his friends in the ass to make 1% of what he could have made if he was capable of using his own brain.

Let him bitch and whine to his paid audience about the opportunities he left on the table because he was too stupid to see them, while we get on with setting the table for the next banquet.
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so does joe

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He tries to cover up his insecurities about being a small dicked fat loser by surrounding himself with morons he pays to post on his lame assed board.
Say what you will about Brad, but the people he employs are gold. If anything, that is Brad's redeeming grace - the ability to surround himself with those who have good people, webmastering and sales skills.
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Joe - Grimm gives very good advise....take it!

and I built a very large company at one time with hamfests and computer shows..... don't sweat it!

and I also agree with Peaches.........
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JoesHo When The Draft Comes Back:

("KID, HAVE YOU REHABILITATED YOURSELF?")

Joe went over to the sargent, said, "Sargeant, you got a lot a damn gall to
ask me if I've rehabilitated myself, I mean, I mean, I mean that just, I'm
sittin' here on the bench, I mean I'm sittin here on the Group W bench
'cause you want to know if I'm moral enough join the army, burn women,
kids, houses and villages after bein' a litterbug."

He looked at me and
said, "Kid, we don't like your kind, and we're gonna send you fingerprints
off to Washington."
I didn't think anyone listen to that stuff besides me.

I want to "KILL""KILL""KILL""KILL""KILL"

And we were both jumping up and down yelling "KILL""KILL""KILL".

Maybe it is time to start the Alice’s Restaurant movement they talked about.

Anyway So many others have said it before me. Don't worry about it. We all know your a class act. Personally If shoveling out cesspools like my grandfather did paid better then This i would do it. You do what you love or what makes you money. More importantly family always comes first and it sounds to me like you have your priorities in the right order family above all else.
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I find it more than mildly amusing how you get so bent out of shape when someone takes a snippet of a piece of your past and uses it against you.... and yet, when you do it, it's all "LOL" this and that.

Take some of your own medicine. If you can't take the heat of a moment in your past, perhaps you shouldn't be dishing it so much.

But hey, feel free to keep using other's people's past out of context as a form of attack yourself, cause your rules don't apply to yourself, just everyone else.
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I find it more than mildly amusing how you get so bent out of shape when someone takes a snippet of a piece of your past and uses it against you.... and yet, when you do it, it's all "LOL" this and that.

Take some of your own medicine. If you can't take the heat of a moment in your past, perhaps you shouldn't be dishing it so much.

But hey, feel free to keep using other's people's past out of context as a form of attack yourself, cause your rules don't apply to yourself, just everyone else.
What started the whole rift between you and Joe anyway? Did he just one day decide to attack you or was there something else that happened?

From what I understand Joe got a pretty good spanking when he came online. I wouldn't want to help out people who gave me such a hard time when I started either. I wouldn't go out of my way to piss with them but that's me. I don't really care about 90% of the trash that posts anyway. Bunch of bigshots with big mouths that think they are something...

Like you say though, if you aren't prepared to receive an attack on the boards, don't be so quick to dish one out.

Bent out of shape?

lol...we were just laughing on ICQ the other day about how this whole "Dirty past" thing was grasping at straws. I mean come on. Is that the best they got? Burning trash and working flea markets?

Yet, when they take it to the boards, it's not presented like it's "Burning trash and working flea markets"... Brad even went as far as to ask this question "Isn't Joe a convicted sex offender or something?" They present it like Joe has some big secret criminal past that he's trying to hide from people. People read those statements, devoid of any context and I am sure assume the worst because they can't think for themselves, they let the big names on the boards do their thinking for them.

Inuendo is a hell of a thing.

Bottom line is, unless it affects your bottom line, don't sweat it.

I think the inuendo that was being presented on GFY however could have hindered Joe's bottom line as far as prospective new clients etc.

If the FACTS had been presented on GFY I am sure the "Joesho you have a dirty past" threads wouldn't have received so much press. I don't think it would have been such a big deal. Hell, how much illegal burning happens on construction sites around the world on a daily basis? I know we used to. I had no idea that there were things deemed unlawful to burn. I would have been fined aswell.

Personally, I don't have a problem with you Stuart but I do see you doing as much stalking in Joe's threads as he does with yours. Hardly a Joesho thread goes by without you throwing your, mostly negative, two cents in. If you stopped, maybe he would too. Just a thought.
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I find it more than mildly amusing how you get so bent out of shape when someone takes a snippet of a piece of your past and uses it against you.... and yet, when you do it, it's all "LOL" this and that.

Take some of your own medicine. If you can't take the heat of a moment in your past, perhaps you shouldn't be dishing it so much.

But hey, feel free to keep using other's people's past out of context as a form of attack yourself, cause your rules don't apply to yourself, just everyone else.
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Wow. Blast from the way past....Alice's Restaurant....and, depression glass..

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("KID, HAVE YOU REHABILITATED YOURSELF?")

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Brad Shaw is so far up his own ass he cant see daylight anymore, he has lost touch with reality. Hes lucky he has a good operator like pornoman to hold his hand cos he would be fucking useless without Chris.

When Aga told me that Brad would grow on me the only thing I could think of was like a fucking malignant tumor, hes been the same since day one on the net, and if it wasnt for a few people who dont know how Brad made his money ripping of webmasters by only counting a third of the traffic they sent he would have noone to listen to his over inflated ego on his I loveMyself messageboard.

Wouldnt worry about anything coming out of his mouth Joe, its all just total fucking crap
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Originally posted by Meat@Feb 16 2005, 01:59 PM
Brad Shaw is so far up his own ass he cant see daylight anymore, he has lost touch with reality. Hes lucky he has a good operator like pornoman to hold his hand cos he would be fucking useless without Chris.

When Aga told me that Brad would grow on me the only thing I could think of was like a fucking malignant tumor, hes been the same since day one on the net, and if it wasnt for a few people who dont know how Brad made his money ripping of webmasters by only counting a third of the traffic they sent he would have noone to listen to his over inflated ego on his I loveMyself messageboard.

Wouldnt worry about anything coming out of his mouth Joe, its all just total fucking crap
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA



Thats it , vent
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