CCBill, this seems totally stupid, please help.

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My frustration continues. Does anyone understand where I am coming from, or am I explaining it incorrectly?

I am using LeggyCash as an example here as I know it belongs to one of the posters here. I am in no way suggesting LeggyCash would try take my account details, it is infact the opposite as I trust them more than a ccbill program I would have found using the SE's.

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ME: hi

Support: Thanks for contacting Client Support. How can I help?

ME: I would like to know how I can find CCBill programs that are related to my website.

Support: I'm not sure if I understand what you mean. We offer a payment gateway for websites so billing transactions can happen.

ME: It seems strange that I need to provide my account details (id,username and password) to a potential program in order to be linked to them, surely you have a list of programs somewhere?

Support: Are you referring to the CCBIll admin?

ME: This is affiliateadmin.ccbill.com right

Support: I provide support to owners, webmasters and affiliates. If you're asking about affiliateadmin.ccbill.com, then I can help you.

ME: yes I am

ME: I am looking to promote ccbill programs on my website

ME: but need to find the programs first, how can I do that?

Support: Most websites offer affiliate programs you can sign up to. Once you're signed up, you can manage the programs within affiliateadmin.ccbill.com.

Support: When logged in, you can view how many clicks you have on each program

Support: As well as how much money you are making on each one

ME: ok, lets take this adult site as an example - http://www.leggycash.com/

ME: so you are telling me I need to give them my CCBill account details (including password) before I can join

Support: If you already have an existing CCBill account, you input that where it's asking for ID, username and password

Support: that is so you can link your accounts together and manage them under one Affiliate ID

ME: wow, this must be a scammers delight

ME: how on earth would I know if I am dealing with a legitimate site

ME: how would I know that http://www.leggycash.com/ is legitimate and I can trust them with my account details. This seems so stupid

Support: If they have a CCBill signup page, then the website in question has already gone through our review department and confirmed to be a legit business.

ME: give me 10 minutes and ill knock up a fake page that will scrape the account details of anyone that enters thier details. How do you avoid that

Support: the signup page has our CCBill URL. A fake page won't have our URL

ME: I dont see your url on http://www.leggycash.com/ does that mean its a fake site

ME: once I click the retreve data I go to ccbill, but at that stage a scammer would already have your details

ME: I just dont see how this could ever be safe

Support: Minnie and Mary is a website under the Leggycash network.

Support: http://www.minnieandmary.com/ccbill/index.htm

Support: If you click on "pay by credit card", it will take you to a CCBill URL

ME: that is to signup as a customer right? I want to promote thier site, how do I link to them?

Support: When you're signed up under LeggyCash's affiliate program, they'll provide you with a join URL which will credit you with a sale, if someone uses that join URL to sign up.

ME: ok, nevermind, we are going in circles here and you are not addressing my concerns. I think I will give ccBill a skip. Your system just does not seem safe.

ME: bye