Giving Away Our Video Chat Platform - Good or Bad?

[2muchmark2]

To be really honest, I have to credit Gonzo & Oprano with teaching me a lesson some time ago. Anyone who knows me knows that I can take anything tossed at me personally, but when it comes to insulting my company or our product, I tend to lose my marbles as had happened before thanks to a disagreement with a certain person who shall remain nameless.

The blame that was being thrown our way on that other forum for all of his own fraud was insulting because I know how hard people like Mediaguy, Kedra, Ye, Qi, David etc, all work on LiveCamNetwork. But instead of posting instantly and "attacking", I would re-read what he said carefully, take a walk and cool off, and then come back as if he was simply asking a question instead of pointing a finger. I tried to answer each "question" calmly. I had to bite my toungue, but I knew if I could leave the emotion out and concentrate on the details (and screenshots) that it would be not only a better defense of our position, but might be useful for others when dealing with fraud.

PS: Corvette was extremely helpful in that situation. Kudos to CCBill as always.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by 2muchmark2

To be really honest, I have to credit Gonzo & Oprano with teaching me a lesson some time ago. Anyone who knows me knows that I can take anything tossed at me personally, but when it comes to insulting my company or our product, I tend to lose my marbles as had happened before thanks to a disagreement with a certain person who shall remain nameless.

The blame that was being thrown our way on that other forum for all of his own fraud was insulting because I know how hard people like Mediaguy, Kedra, Ye, Qi, David etc, all work on LiveCamNetwork. But instead of posting instantly and "attacking", I would re-read what he said carefully, take a walk and cool off, and then come back as if he was simply asking a question instead of pointing a finger. I tried to answer each "question" calmly. I had to bite my toungue, but I knew if I could leave the emotion out and concentrate on the details (and screenshots) that it would be not only a better defense of our position, but might be useful for others when dealing with fraud.

PS: Corvette was extremely helpful in that situation. Kudos to CCBill as always.

Mark is a great business resource!

And yes there are several here that are very adept at pushing peoples buttons. When you get to the point of knowing exactly how you are going to reply to someone before they respond is a good indicator of button pushing.

A lot of times I know that I just have to get a person to respond one more time to push another set of buttons AND to set them up to respond again.

But back to business most of us are here to make money and share information and this offer is a good way for those that have considered cam networks but found the bar to entry too steep.

Im only sorry that I havent had as much time to devote to working on this over the past week to get things rolling.

Im lucky to have conned both The Enforcer and Erika into working with me on this new venture.

I hope she will be smiling even bigger than this in the near future!

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by gonzo

And yes there are several here that are very adept at pushing peoples buttons. When you get to the point of knowing exactly how you are going to reply to someone before they respond is a good indicator of button pushing.

A lot of times I know that I just have to get a person to respond one more time to push another set of buttons AND to set them up to respond again.

Nah.. Really?? I have never seen that sort of thing around here

Anyways, in all fairness (damn I hate having to be like this) I have to say that Mark handled himself quite well in the thread over at the zoo. To the point that very far in I even felt the need to come in and tell the OP that he was off base.

I have always thought that the LCN platform looked pretty good in comparison to what else was out there.

So, I guess we will see how it goes. I have not read the licensing agreement at this point but it seems to me that anyway this is structured increases Mark's risk signiificantly, so it appears to me that he is putting his ass on the line somewhat here. Personally investing yourself in your product is a good thing imho.

As far as marketing to Newbies, this sort of offer allows the newbie to find out the hard way without destroying them financially, so no compl;aints from me there.

I have sent this thread to a couple of people who have hit me in the past looking for cam solutions.

I have a domain or 2 I could use this on but I don't have the time to work on what I have going already, much less taking on something new so I am going to personally pass for now but weill say, Good Luck to Mark and Mediaguy, I hope it all goes quite well

[sarettah]

A question for Mark or Mediaguy:

How FREE is FREE ?

And this not a complaint. I know you are waiving the license fee so that is like 6000 off of the commitment.

You have a 99.95 setup fee in there. What other fees are involved? I know there is a hosting fee of some sort, what else, and how much?

As I said, I am not complaining here. If it was completely 100% free then the bar is too low. I am just wondering what the total investment up front (barring design and coding charges that are dependent on the customers personal choices) to get in on this is?

Thanx in advance