Max Hardcore - Hero or Zero ?

[miz_wright]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

I like freedom as well. And I lost a friend who died with a smile on his face and an electrical cord around his neck. I guess you could say he achieved the impossible. He came and went at the same time.
Being in Vancouver, I have worked with many girls who went through the Sweet mill and it was nasty, very nasty. Perhaps worse than Max. However, some did enjoy the abuse as a fanatsy.
The Sweet decision in a Canadian court was kind of bittersweet. The perpetrators of some very abusive and sould destroying shit walked away free and clear. I think they should have suffered consequences because somewhere in the world, the worst of those guys is still abusing people.
However, that decision made whatever I do so legal it squeaks. Shooting porn in Canada is a pretty good option nowadays, because we have access to good talent and never ever wory about a knock on the door and some local cop fucking up our lives.
I do hope, however, Max spends enough time in jail to ponder his miserable existance. Perhaps the best outcome would be a successful appeal, if that is possible, and people will sit up and take notice of what they are doing.

I don't know Max, so I can't say anything about him personally. What I *can* speak to are my concerns as a citizen. And the question in this whole case for me is whether I am comfortable creating a boundary on what is obscene - and the Miller test maintains the standard of that which is "patently offensive."

Which keeps coming back to "for whom?" I can't speak for you about that - Stagliano clearly has had a successful career, so clearly, the community standard test doesn't work if people are buying it. Protect the kids, protect against non-consensual violence - but not on a basis of "I think it's icky."