Yall left Atlanta just in time

[Hell Puppy]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

I knew this was going to be a conversation stopper. Its the uncomfortable reality and no one wants to deal with this on a "business" board. But folks, this is business and effects you way more than a tgp or a tube site. Or prove me wrong.

Or it could just be that some of us dont hang out on the boards all day.

[Hell Puppy]

This is worth a watch....

[Hell Puppy]

When you get right down to it, here's my problem with America today...

People have no sense of self responsibility. They want and expect the government to take care of them and protect them. I'm on the other hand very much an individualist.

I do not want the government managing my life. I'm a big boy, I make my own decisions. I will make my own way, I want to reap the rewards when I'm successful. I will also make mistakes, and I will own up to them and make up for them. I want the government to protect our soil from foreign intrusion, build a few highways and provide a level playing field in the marketplace.

I'm seemingly at the tail end of the last generation to largely feel that way. Not sure where or how we lost it, but America has gotten lazy. Everyone wants the government to fix everything. And now you have more and more class warfare sneaking into America's politics, I largely blame the media for that.

Most people who are not well off consider anyone who is to be "evil rich". Their money should be taken and put to the use of the greater good. That's beyond socialism, that's pure Marxism, and Obama supports it. Where's the incentive to achieve?

I guess I'm a greedy bastard, but I get upset when someone calls me "lucky" or someone who has been broke as a joke since they left high school refers to themselves as "unlucky". Luck has fuck all to do with it. I've worked my ass off. And the broke ones? Lazy as shit in most cases or at best they work, but make dumb ass life decisions such as having 4-5 kids when they cant even afford to support themselves or have no education yet to go get a job and provide a decent life for them.

But along comes the socialists, let's just take more money from those who have done well and use it to provide food, clothes, healthcare and whatever else baby mama and the kids need. I'm not greedy, I'm really not, but explain to me where the fairness is in that?

[RawAlex]

Originally Posted by Hell Puppy

This is worth a watch....

Not only not worth the time to watch, but a blatant re-writing of history to tilt things hard to one side. No mention of the fact that the republican party controlled the house and senate for years and remarkably passed all these bills into law.

Sorry, but if you are going to post propaganda, at least have the manners to mention it.

[Hell Puppy]

Originally Posted by RawAlex

Not only not worth the time to watch, but a blatant re-writing of history to tilt things hard to one side. No mention of the fact that the republican party controlled the house and senate for years and remarkably passed all these bills into law.

Sorry, but if you are going to post propaganda, at least have the manners to mention it.

Put your bias aside and go do some research. I did. I've been preaching CRA as root cause of all of this for weeks.

The regulations were changed in 1995 at the direction of one William Jefferson Clinton...democrat. Specifically the regulations were changed by The Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, a Clinton appointed position.

Go look at the attempts to reign all of this in since 2003, all of the Republican initiated, all of them voted down. Plenty of blame to go around on both sides.

One of the attempts was initiated by John McCain. As for Obama, you cant deny all of his ties to Fannie Mae.

No propaganda, all facts. Go do your homework.

Now with all of that said, I dont think either candidate or party is capable of fixing this mess. But we do know the democratic answer is turn the economy over the government, and that scares the shit out of me.