Americans are Suckers....u get 200 bucks from Bush and u think

[Hell Puppy]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

So I went to the irs website and it seems that if you make over 75K a year you get nothing. Is this true?

That sounds about right on average. Though I think they made the formulas pretty complicated as to who gets what, so I dont know if that's individual, combined marriage, before or after deductions or what.

No where close for me, so obviously I need to quit working so hard and get lazy so I can get paid.

[softball]

Originally Posted by Hell Puppy

That sounds about right on average. Though I think they made the formulas pretty complicated as to who gets what, so I dont know if that's individual, combined marriage, before or after deductions or what.

No where close for me, so obviously I need to quit working so hard and get lazy so I can get paid.

Yeah, sometimes ya gotta wonder if it is worth all the effort. What I find interesting is how many times I hear that high income earners don't pay tax because of all the write offs. I just roll my eyes because I know that I pay enough tax to support a whole lot of those people when they run out of work.

[Hell Puppy]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

Yeah, sometimes ya gotta wonder if it is worth all the effort. What I find interesting is how many times I hear that high income earners don't pay tax because of all the write offs. I just roll my eyes because I know that I pay enough tax to support a whole lot of those people when they run out of work.

And the "rich" small business men and "evil" big companies which government loves to tax are who supply jobs and make the economy move on a much grander scale than giving homey's baby mama $600. People cant grasp the simple realities of business when they do not run one themselves. If you raise taxes on a business the cost of 5 salaries, guess what happens?

And here in lies the problem with the upcoming election for those of us in the U.S.

Even for the most gung ho republican or conservative, it would be hard to say the U.S. is in better shape than it was in 2000. Time to fire the Republicans and try something different.

Obama has done an excellent job of not campaigning on his own skills experience but rather on the idea of "change". He's something different, that's all he really has going for him. The resume is pretty thin.

But, not only is he tax and spend and big government, he's quite upfront about taxing people who are successful because he somehow considers it "fair". This is really class warfare in my eyes. He's often said one of his first acts will be to push for a bump in the capital gains tax to 27.1%. Remind me not to buy or sell anything.

Short of an all out revolution, I dont see it ever getting passed, but I'd still love to see fair tax:

http://www.fairtax.org

[EmporerEJ]

Originally Posted by Hell Puppy

And the "rich" small business men and "evil" big companies which government loves to tax are who supply jobs and make the economy move on a much grander scale than giving homey's baby mama $600. People cant grasp the simple realities of business when they do not run one themselves. If you raise taxes on a business the cost of 5 salaries, guess what happens?

http://www.fairtax.org

Sure sounds like "Trickle down economics" to me....a Reagan/Bush (1)Republican plan.....

(A plan I happen to agree with.....)