SheleeHale...a serious question for you

[Mediaguy]

Originally Posted by Shelleehale

I would enjoy this opportunity, thank you very much for asking. This is the short version and may not be my best as I have been up since 5am and am starting to burn out - I just did not want to ignore you even if this was just to get more to pick on me for.

I hate it when newbs are picked on - there's boards where that's the norm - but sometimes Shellee you invite it.

Originally Posted by Shelleehale

Popups - I hate them but with XP and popup blocker software the consumer is able to manage these annoying things. If you don't want them there are resources available and you should use them if you have issue with this. (ethical)

Ultimately it's almost impossible to fight popups - because now there's new versions called webpage dialogues and the like. Some people still try to use them because, in volume, they still (believe it or not) generate sales.

Originally Posted by Shelleehale

Blind Links and/or redirected links - No problem unless you are doing it to steal from someone else. In this case I would hope that security will improve to decrease this abuse. (sometimes ethical/sometimes not)

Blind links and redirects will take your clicker or surfer to something that is not what he clicked on... as a surfer or porn user or whatever you want to call me, I've clicked on a babe I wanted to see more of and ended up on something or someone who is the diametrical OPPOSITE of who I clicked... a complete turn off.

Originally Posted by Shelleehale

Circle Jerks? (The web kind, not the gay boyscout kind)

Ok I laughed my ass off. Good one.

Originally Posted by Shelleehale

- I hate them they drive me nuts, but I can't give you a really strong answer on this as it really has not been something I have looked into. (not ethical)

Actually circle jerks are a lot less frequent than they used to be unless you unfortunately combine yours bookmarks or end up cross-clicking to the wrong bunch of sites; these are really dodo-bird territory nowadays.

Originally Posted by Shelleehale

Hidden terms and conditions - we all have to agree to the TOS if we want the service; how often do we read it - I rarely do.

You're right. And I myself rarely if ever read TOS when I apply anywhere.

Originally Posted by Shelleehale

If I agree to a TOS that has something I would not expect in it that is my fault. But from a consumer stand point certain aspects I have issue with like an inability to opt out or cancel etc.

Consumers or webmasters rarely read the TOS - it's a checkbox that gets us to the next step. It may not be wise, but that's just the way it is... And I personally will continue to "trust" TOS conditions and just click the box... sigh, that's probably wrong as hell, but I dare anyone tell me they read the friggin' thing every time...

Originally Posted by Shelleehale

I hear adult sales people all the time say keep the cost under this or that so it gets by without notice on the consumers credit card statement.

Really? Those are assholes. Though we like rebills and recurring, it's much preferred that it's in the consumer's face so he can agree or not; I love rebills, but I hate chargebacks.

Originally Posted by Shelleehale

Spam - All for it, but won't do it because it's illegal.

WHAT?!? No, you must be kidding.... rephrase that answer for us who don't quite catch your meaning here....

Originally Posted by Shelleehale

I don't think CAN SPAM is fair and with the ease of stolen emails and IP's etc this law could affect a non-abuser. (sometimes ethical but not legal)

How is forbidding spam unfair?!?

Who cares if this law affects a non-abuser? What is that, anyhow? sorry this really makes no friggin sense to me - if it's ethical it should be legal.

Email I didn't ask for is WRONG. Period.

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[softball]

media dude......take a deep breath...

[Mediaguy]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

media dude......take a deep breath...

My writing was not as breathless as your reading was, no doubt...

You I have been reading and I sense a communality that could breach the confines of this forum.

I could write more pornish matter here but I prefer to keep our relationship pure.

But thanks for the advice, seriously...

[softball]

Originally Posted by Mediaguy

My writing was not as breathless as your reading was, no doubt...

You I have been reading and I sense a communality that could breach the confines of this forum.

I could write more pornish matter here but I prefer to keep our relationship pure.

But thanks for the advice, seriously...

Pornish? I studied that for six months. But if you don't use it you lose it. I think my French and Russian lasted longer. But for everything else, there is Babelfish.

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by Mediaguy

I hate it when newbs are picked on - there's boards where that's the norm - but sometimes Shellee you invite it.

I do not normally beat on noobies too much, in fact quite the opposite in most cases.

However, if a noob comes off real arrogant I have no problem calling them on it.

I had kind of forgotten that SH was still pretty much noobie until DK pointed it out today.

She is quite ambitous from what I can see and that is all well and good. I see from the corp page that she has 16 sites up and running (even if some are just front pages to push directly to a sponsor) and that is quite commendable.

[Sexyteaser]

Originally Posted by sarettah

I do not normally beat on noobies too much, in fact quite the opposite in most cases.

However, if a noob comes off real arrogant I have no problem calling them on it.

I had kind of forgotten that SH was still pretty much noobie until DK pointed it out today.

She is quite ambitous from what I can see and that is all well and good. I see from the corp page that she has 16 sites up and running (even if some are just front pages to push directly to a sponsor) and that is quite commendable.

Thank you and yes I really just got started in this 1 year ago after a selling my consulting practice to Computer People in 1992 I have spent most my time doing a few little project here and there but mostly doing philanthropy which was a hell of a lot harder than this. I am sure if you have been around that long find some old Coputer World's or Info Worlds and you will find articles on my work or bi-lined by me back in the day; hell there is even the front page of the Wall Street Journal from 1987 when I was working with Capital Associates.

Ok so when I started in IT in 1984 as a PC Coordinator there was DOS and I am old and things really progressed while I was off between 1994-2007 I did do some great fun things like programming our whole house to run off a computer panel where the lights and stereo and tv worked from a laptop in 1997 and other fun things with t-view and slide shows etc that is now so easy to do. But, no I never sold sex or even thought about it until a huge twist happened in a plan I had while looking for a chat platform to run a coaching site. I never found adult it found me.

I spent the last year listening to people I felt were important and smart in this business and aligned myself with them and the rest maybe I am arrogant for dismissing in comments but I worked my ass off most of my life and I am not here looking for some get rich quick scheme - I am here to start a solid business based on my ideas.

As far as the front pages go after a debacle with my first chat platform this was a great inexpensive way to see if I was any good at this before investing a ton of money into exclusive content and development - probably a smart move with the economic turn don't you think?

Give me a few more months as I pull this all together I may be a little slow with the board etiquette but this is nothing compared to the battles we had in board rooms where I learned to debate my points with conviction and stand up for myself.

[softball]

breath taking, really. Personally, I wanna see the results. I am patient.
However, if I were a betting man, I would say this shit is piled so damn high, I can't see the top of the pile.
I think it was some obscure American that once said "You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time."
But hey, hedge your bets.

[Sexyteaser]

Please show me the most successful project that you had 11 months after you started your first adult site? or better yet 18 months or even today.

[softball]

Originally Posted by Shelleehale

Please show me the most successful project that you had 11 months after you started your first adult site? or better yet 18 months or eventoday.

LOLOLOLOL.....my first adult project was wildly successful after two months. Four months later I quit my last career. In fact at two and a half months, I watched in total amazement my first 150K just whizz into the old bank account. And then the profits started to roll in after we started taking it seriously. I am not bragging, Shellee, but this is where you crash and burn. Many of us had that experience and you don't have a fucking clue about that. I would never have lasted 11 or 18 months in this business without a huge profit motive. It just ain't that much fun. Sheeeeiiiit.

Oh, and btw, that was when 150 K was serious fucking money.....

[Sexyteaser]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

LOLOLOLOL.....my first adult project was wildly successful after two months. Four months later I quit my last career. In fact at two and a half months, I watched in total amazement my first 150K just whizz into the old bank account. And then the profits started to roll in after we started taking it seriously. I am not bragging, Shellee, but this is where you crash and burn. Many of us had that experience and you don't have a fucking clue about that. I would never have lasted 11 or 18 months in this business without a huge profit motive. It just ain't that much fun. Sheeeeiiiit.

Oh, and btw, that was when 150 K was serious fucking money.....

Sounds like it was competitive with Microsoft stock. What was the project? You mean the 20,000 shares I got in 1996 did not do that? Or what do I actually not have a clue about. Today without working I make 4 times that just sleeping and I am not trying to brag but just wondering what you think I don't have a clue about because it sure isn't making money.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by Shelleehale

Please show me the most successful project that you had 11 months after you started your first adult site? or better yet 18 months or even today.

http://www.2Much.net
and then about 1 year later,
http://www.LiveCamNetwork.com

I started with 1 idea, and I stuck with it until I could finally afford the time to start a second idea. Today these 2 businesses (related) are all that I do.

Shellee Maybe you could stop listing your 2 dozen or so domain names on your business card and corporate site and stop bragging about them as if they are all different projects when they are really just upsells (whoohoo), and concentrate on 1 and 1 only.

Certainly, a CONSULTANT would probably tell you to build one successfull website before you start another. But hey, what do I know.

[Toby]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

I think it was some obscure American that once said "You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time."

That "obscure" American was President John F. Kennedy.

[softball]

Originally Posted by Toby

That "obscure" American was President John F. Kennedy.

I believe you actually meant John F. Lincoln...???? lol..... or honest John as they called him. Sorry, but I am Canadian and not as au fait with American history as a native.

[Toby]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

I believe you actually meant John F. Lincoln...???? lol..... or honest John as they called him. Sorry, but I am Canadian and not as au fait with American history as a native.

Yes you're right, it was Lincoln not Kennedy. Right office, wrong occupant.

Kennedy's quote of note was, "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country."

[Mediaguy]

Originally Posted by Toby

That "obscure" American was President John F. Kennedy.

Everyone rings a ding on this one dong, it was good ole Abe Lincoln:

http://www.quotationspage.com/quotes/Abraham_Lincoln/

[Toby]

Originally Posted by Mediaguy

Everyone rings a ding on this one dong, it was good ole Abe Lincoln...

Yes, we got that sorted already.

What is odd, is that I have a fairly vivid memory of Kennedy saying that line, with his distinctive Baaaaaston accent. Now I'm wondering if he actually did quote Lincoln in some speech I saw in history class, or if my mind is turning to Silly Putty.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

breath taking, really. Personally, I wanna see the results. I am patient.
However, if I were a betting man, I would say this shit is piled so damn high, I can't see the top of the pile.
I think it was some obscure American that once said "You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time."
But hey, hedge your bets.

Rhetorical: I agree ! I am seriously laughing my ass off after that post. It's the stinkiest pile of horseshit yet thats for sure!