Free speech shouldn't include violent porn

[gonzo]

I dont care of aforementioned content and further more I think it only brings more heat to our business as a whole.

I think Max Hardcore is a steaming piece of shit.

However Free Speech means Free Speech.

I dont like it and I damned sure dont look at it.

[miz_wright]

Originally Posted by gonzo

I dont care of aforementioned content and further more I think it only brings more heat to our business as a whole.

I think Max Hardcore is a steaming piece of shit.

However Free Speech means Free Speech.

I dont like it and I damned sure dont look at it.

I don't care for it either, but I also don't care for hate speech - so I don't engage in it or give it my support. But on the other hand, I have views many people disagree with and I don't think my views should be silenced by the religious zealots - and therefore I have to protect the opportunity for human slime to spew their filth so I maintain my freedom to speak my mind as well.

[RawAlex]

Define "violent" in legal terms.

[miz_wright]

Originally Posted by RawAlex

Define "violent" in legal terms.

Describe "pornography" in legal terms.

[sarettah]

Hanging an American flag upside down in a window

Hmm. That is the international distress signal, hanging your flag upside down. How does that get grouped with declaring communist view...lololol

Anyway, free speech means that you take the good with the bad. It is an all or nothing proposition.

The one(s) that get to me lately are the one(s) advocating different free speech for different people/groups of people. ie: It is ok for a person of African-American ancestry to say nigger but it isn't ok for anyone else to say the word.

It is all a bunch of bullshit. Like I said to a student when they accused me of making discriminatory/rascist comments at one point:

"There are a whole lot of words in the English language and I reserve the right to use any of them that I please, anytime I please."

[RawAlex]

Originally Posted by LizAEBN

Describe "pornography" in legal terms.

I don't have to. Pornography is remarkably legal and the AG has even admitted that much of it is protected free speech.

You never have to define legal, just define illegal in a manner that can be measured and used in court. This thread starts down the same road as trying to define obscenity.

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by RawAlex

This thread starts down the same road as trying to define obscenity.

That is because it is one and the same. The only porn that is illegal (other than kp of course) is that which is obscene.

So, whether porn is legal or not pretty much solely depends on whether it is obscene or not and of course, here in the US, that has been left to that wonderfully crystal clear standard of "community standards"

[miz_wright]

Originally Posted by sarettah

That is because it is one and the same. The only porn that is illegal (other than kp of course) is that which is obscene.

So, whether porn is legal or not pretty much solely depends on whether it is obscene or not and of course, here in the US, that has been left to that wonderfully crystal clear standard of "community standards"

Sarettah, thank you for understanding my point. You have become my Thursday night hero.

[Toby]

Originally Posted by sarettah

...So, whether porn is legal or not pretty much solely depends on whether it is obscene or not and of course, here in the US, that has been left to that wonderfully crystal clear standard of "community standards"

OK, next step, define community.

[Sexyteaser]

Originally Posted by RawAlex

Define "violent" in legal terms.

I love this question...

The reason all these free speech cases are lost and a waste of tax payer money is the hypocricy; point Boxing and Ultimate Fighting which is quite violent and doesn't come with a disclaimer for minors to view is not mentioned. These people just use adult to sensationalize their position - they all need to get a life or have sex.

[Mediaguy]

In the Great White North, the only definition of "obscenity" used is sex with violence, ie., a violent act during the penetration, slapping and fucking, whatever...

Violence can precede the penetrative act, or follow it, but can't occur simultaneously.

Hey, I met Max Hardcore, he's a mellow dude, quiet and polite, and good conversationalist, and if his freak or kink or turn-on is violent, degrading sex, it doesn't affect his demeanor or treatment of people (men and women) outside the boudoir.

Personally, it turns me right off... I'm also not turned on by women in diapers, or foot fetish (though I 've seen the occasional pretty foot) and balloons.

But, some people are and do get into those fetishes... to me that's all it is.

[EmporerEJ]

Originally Posted by gonzo

I dont care of aforementioned content and further more I think it only brings more heat to our business as a whole.

I think Max Hardcore is a steaming piece of shit.

However Free Speech means Free Speech.

I dont like it and I damned sure dont look at it.

Precisely...the market place should be the decider of free speech. WHY should someone else, anyone else, have power over me to decide what I can look at or express?

Free speech, is free speech. If it's not "good" speech, no one will buy it. Then it really will be "free speech," and won't last long in the marketplace.

And the po' children...gotta protect them. Tell the parents to lock them into the .kids extension. Then control that. I guarantee we have no desire to market there. But don't limit the rest of the world to what's safe for what YOU (the Nazis) think, is safe for kids.