Too Much Media vs. NR Media....

[gonzo]

Im on the side of the truth.

Im still trying to get my head around this fact.
Half a million dollars in one year amd the affiliates still havent been paid yet?

Unless Im missing something John was going to open access so they could pay out in hopes of resolving this dispute?

Its going to take all weekend to digest this becasue I cant get past the fact that affliates STILL havent been paid.

Why?

I can see Chris's arguement that we pay NATS to keep us straight - even though NATS is a cascading billing system in reality.

Why havent affilaites been paid after 2 years?

[gonzo]

Several of us are still digesting these PDFs... have another point that I dont understand...

The suit claims $5 million dollars worth of damage based as the company's value. I ask along with the lawyer why Blake/Amy were only paid $5000 for their 50% ?

This doesnt add up either.

[Toby]

Originally Posted by gonzo

Several of us are still digesting these PDFs... have another point that I dont understand...

The suit claims $5 million dollars worth of damage based as the company's value. I ask along with the lawyer why Blake/Amy were only paid $5000 for their 50% ?

This doesnt add up either.

Must be that new math. I wonder if the IRS has been reading along?

[RawAlex]

From what I could understand, NATS wasn't so much going to give access as "provide numbers" or provide a limited dataset access.

Where I get a little confused on all this is Blake and the 9 epass accounts. Were the rebillings occurring and then all getting paid off to Blake instead of to the webmasters? Was Blake using his access to the systems to somehow skim rebills? Is there a theoretical half million sitting in an account somewhere unpaid, or was it filtered off to someone else? If the totals still added up, why would NATS get involved?

Where did the money go?

On the other side of the coin, the amount claimed is steep, but if the company was turning half a million a year, it is ALMOST justifiable. But then the $5000 buyout for 50% of the company sort of negates it, unless Blake and Amy were getting paid in some other manner (see the "shave" above).

In the end, even if NR was a pretty weird setup, there is likely very little way to excuse John's outbursts on the boards which almost certainly tarnished some reputations.

[Toby]

I was wondering the same thing. Where is all that money that hasn't been paid to affiliates?

Plenty of things in there that just don't add up right. Far more new questions raised than old questions answered.

Quite a few veiled accusations tossed about with little or no hard evidence that any funds were misappropriated.

[gonzo]

If you dont think both parties are reading this thread you are wrong.

Anyone want to comment or are you going to both keep us in the dark?

My mailbox gets more interesting things as time goes on.

I WILL POST THEM.

[Jace]

Originally Posted by RawAlex

But then the $5000 buyout for 50% of the company sort of negates it, unless Blake and Amy were getting paid in some other manner (see the "shave" above).

not sure where they got those #'s, but from what I understand blake and amy got nothing whatsoever when they split ways from chris and brandi

[gonzo]

Anyone got any further?

I see 2 things so far. They havent paid affiliates after 2 years and Jason Tucker saw another way to make what he thought was easy cash by forcing that couple out of a job.

I guess you reap what you sow. Big bag tells me that his personal life has taken a turn for the worse as well. Something about no more "sugar" and being cut off from Momma.

Oh well. I guess he always will have Porn Kings.

[gonzo]

Then again... I guess he might not have NATS running at porn kings....at least licensed.

http://nats.pornkings.com/license.php

[softball]

Originally Posted by gonzo

Anyone got any further?

I see 2 things so far. They havent paid affiliates after 2 years and Jason Tucker saw another way to make what he thought was easy cash by forcing that couple out of a job.

I guess you reap what you sow. Big bag tells me that his personal life has taken a turn for the worse as well. Something about no more "sugar" and being cut off from Momma.

Oh well. I guess he always will have Porn Kings.

Jason Tucker deserves whatever ill wind comes his way. Is it true he is only 5 feet tall. I have only talked to him on his cell and he always let me know he was calling from his Escalade. Dumb fuck.

[Jace]

Originally Posted by gonzo

Anyone got any further?

I see 2 things so far. They havent paid affiliates after 2 years and Jason Tucker saw another way to make what he thought was easy cash by forcing that couple out of a job.

I guess you reap what you sow. Big bag tells me that his personal life has taken a turn for the worse as well. Something about no more "sugar" and being cut off from Momma.

Oh well. I guess he always will have Porn Kings.

jason tucker was NOT with them when blake and amy left, jason came along later

[Jace]

Originally Posted by RawAlex

From what I could understand, NATS wasn't so much going to give access as "provide numbers" or provide a limited dataset access.

Where I get a little confused on all this is Blake and the 9 epass accounts. Were the rebillings occurring and then all getting paid off to Blake instead of to the webmasters? Was Blake using his access to the systems to somehow skim rebills? Is there a theoretical half million sitting in an account somewhere unpaid, or was it filtered off to someone else? If the totals still added up, why would NATS get involved?

Where did the money go?

On the other side of the coin, the amount claimed is steep, but if the company was turning half a million a year, it is ALMOST justifiable. But then the $5000 buyout for 50% of the company sort of negates it, unless Blake and Amy were getting paid in some other manner (see the "shave" above).

In the end, even if NR was a pretty weird setup, there is likely very little way to excuse John's outbursts on the boards which almost certainly tarnished some reputations.

with 9 epassport accounts. Has anyone every had more then 2 epassport account with the same company, unless Blake pulled some heavy internal epassport strings, not possible... these were epassport accounts that brandi testified she didn't know about.. but later on in the same deposition when asked how was mailman paid.. hum 'epassport?' Same goes for her accusation of the multiple paypal accounts under the same company creditcard.... anyone ever had more then 1 paypal account with the same credit card??

[Jace]

on Blake setting up 9 affiliate accounts total over $209K....it's a common for program owners that uses NATS to create multiple accounts within their systems testing, tracking accounts get setup .. Chris testified that he didn't know how to use NATS and nor did Brandi so who would be setting up NATS.. but when the final question was asked to Chris was $209K paid out to Blake.. No it was never paid out, even though he made it sound like $209K was somehow paid out to 'strange accounts' that Blake set up

[Jace]

it would of never happened anyways since Chris's wife cut ALL the checks. So since epoch /ccbill pays to NR logical location for that '$209K would still be at NR

as far as $5k buy out.. what's funny is both Chris and Brandi said the Blake/Amy was employee but yet they own almost 50% of the company. Do you think anyone will walk away from a company that gross that kind of money for $5K 'willingly' ?