Let me get this straight about Cybernet..

[softball]

Originally Posted by JFK

Media guy had more than his FAIR share of adverse publicity, but he has turned it around in his favour. Yes, I have shots of LC passed out in a toilet with pants around his ankles and the door open. It was removed even though he didnt care.

If you get drunk and cut up, you are fair game. That is why I have "removed by request" or if you really dont want to be in shots, just pull me aside and ask. I cant be bothered to force the issue. Takes longer for an argument than for me to take 10 more shots of people who want to be in them.

I am glad you have finally come to that conclusion.

[connor]

Hey guys -

Wasn't around yesterday, so I'm just catching up on threads and email and what not.

Rhetorical, I get some of the frustration you're expressing... but you make it sound like shows are going to shoot pictorial spreads of your models and then start a website or sell them to Playboy or something. That isn't the case. Shows use these pictures as explained to you before... so they can show people NEXT year what went on the previous years. That benefits the shows, sure, but it also benefits the people who attend the shows. It's a minor, minor thing.

If you DO bring a model with you to a show, you DO get benefit from pictures of your model at the show circulating in industry circles. I can't imagine the businessperson who would have an opportunity to get his or her model in front of thousands of industry eyeballs and NOT want this free publicity. In what way would that make sense? So even if you don't get a "link back," you ARE getting benefit. Probably more benefit than the show gets, to be honest.

And what are you going to do when a model steps into an area viewable by the public and someone snaps a picture and includes it in news shots? Nothing, that's what you'll do... unless you like giving your money away to attorneys who can't help you. Why doesn't THAT bother you? YNOT or AVN could snap pictures of you or your model as part of their coverage of the event and there isn't anything you can do about it. They don't even ask for a release cause they don't need one. And don't news sites profit from their content? Sure they do. So shows including this language is really just yet another way to make sure people understand what COULD happen if they choose to attend events.

I like being outraged as much as the next guy, but I just don't see the specific concerns you mentioned being very significant. Better to invest your outrage in something more important and substantial, imho.

[Hammer]

Originally Posted by connor

Better to invest your outrage in something more important and substantial, imho.

Ah, you don't know Rhetorical too well I see.

You know I love ya Graham, just saying.

[TheEnforcer]

This is one of those sound and fury signifying nothing type posts/threads... :>))

SOP for shows and has been for all types be they adult or mainstream.

[LAJ]

I think the jig is up Connor... we now may need to rely solely on running the show responsibly and trying to earn our salary thru sponsorships and badge sales only

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by LAJ

I think the jig is up Connor... we now may need to rely solely on running the show responsibly and trying to earn our salary thru sponsorships and badge sales only

Hammer and I want our old guys looking ghetto cut.

An a bonus for me from pissing on Joanna Angel in public.

[Hammer]

Originally Posted by gonzo

Hammer and I want our old guys looking ghetto cut.

An a bonus for me from pissing on Joanna Angel in public.

Yeah, what's up with that. I never signed any damn release last year. Gonzo, I know they used that Joanna Angel stuff for marketing. Hell, everyone was talking about it the rest of the show.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by Hammer

Yeah, what's up with that. I never signed any damn release last year. Gonzo, I know they used that Joanna Angel stuff for marketing. Hell, everyone was talking about it the rest of the show.

I feel used.

LAJ was pimping us out as two old ghettoish guys.
I feel foolish.