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Old 03-17-2008   #1
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Default Re: Do you want Gonzo to post your real name?

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Please refer to our contract I paid 2much.net to maintain and update the website. Why would I need to call you if you were calling me to do something that was your responsibility. If you did not have permission to use photos or if permission changed - you had a fiduciary duty to me for services paid for you should have been doing YOUR JOB.

Hi Shellee!! How are you darling? Did you have fun yesterday? I sure did!

Anyway, Here goes.

Shellee:
When we made your original website, we offered you webmaster services. Then when you went to Mr. Plante, he became your new webmaster. Michel has all of the PSD (Layer) files for all of your graphics so he could make any changes you asked him to do.

What I bet happened is that you asked him for changes later and he told you he had to charge you for those changes, but you didn't want to pay him for his work.

Finally, if you look back at my older posts here SWEETHEART, you will see that not only did I ask you many times to remove the pictures, but in the end we offered to do the work FOR YOU, FOR FREE. All we needed was ANY other picture of ANY other chat model you had. You never provided us with one. (I guess that fat fuck of the On-Cam Big-Mac Eating Florida Prostitute you had stealing from you and jeopardizing your business was not someone you wanted to have on the front page of your website. Can't say I blame you.


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Old 03-17-2008   #2
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Default Re: Do you want Gonzo to post your real name?

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Hi Shellee!! How are you darling? Did you have fun yesterday? I sure did!

Anyway, Here goes.

Shellee:
When we made your original website, we offered you webmaster services. Then when you went to Mr. Plante, he became your new webmaster. Michel has all of the PSD (Layer) files for all of your graphics so he could make any changes you asked him to do.

What I bet happened is that you asked him for changes later and he told you he had to charge you for those changes, but you didn't want to pay him for his work.

Finally, if you look back at my older posts here SWEETHEART, you will see that not only did I ask you many times to remove the pictures, but in the end we offered to do the work FOR YOU, FOR FREE. All we needed was ANY other picture of ANY other chat model you had. You never provided us with one. (I guess that fat fuck of the On-Cam Big-Mac Eating Florida Prostitute you had stealing from you and jeopardizing your business was not someone you wanted to have on the front page of your website. Can't say I blame you.


Mark "How about a hug? Ah Camaaann??" Prince
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http://www.LiveCamNetwork.com
Our contract speaks for itself. You are welcome to ask Michael Plant if you are correct in this assumption but I am sure he will tell you that your not. You were paid to do this service period and Michale Plante was used at your suggestion.

But isn't it pointless as I don't even do business or support your platform in any way shape or form. I think you are losing the point it was a complete waste of my time and money to work with you and nothing ever got accomplished.

I was completely disatisfied with 2much.net and you Mark Prince why would I continue to work on something destined to fail. Once again you have a huge failure rate with customers you have sold licenses not just me.

Here are a few

www.bkslive.com
www.primalsecrets.com
www.xxxstrippercams.com
www.southerngirlslive.com
www.icutoocams.com
www.orgasmwebkams.com
www.girlsgonecam.com
www.assworshippers.com
www.sexyteaser.com
www.sexyteaserguys.com
www.euroticalive.com
www.livemodelnetwork.com
www.365livecam.com

Right now you have one girl online and no one in paid chat - so why don't you go back to work.
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Old 03-17-2008   #3
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Shellee -

You forgot 2 important names in that list:

http://www.SexyTeaser.com: FAILURE
http://www.SexyTeaserGuys.com: FAILURE.

Its not the software that failed, Shellee, it is YOU.

LiveCamNetwork is at its most basic, A video streaming program, and an accounting program. It's is not a "get rich quick" scheme (as we even point out in our FAQ). All it does is stream video, and count money.

It can only make money for you Shellee if you:
- Know your market
- Know your content
- Know how to run a business
- Work hard, hard, very hard.

You failed on all of the above Shellee, and I will prove it to you and everyone else, right now.

One of your FAILED sites was SexyTeaserGuys.com.

The site's promise by way of teaser pictures, tour, sales pages etc, promised customers the chance to chat with Young, muscular men.

Here, everyone, is the kind of Young, Muscular Men that Shelle ACTUALLY had on her website, SexyTeaserGuys.com



And you Shellee, had the fucking nerve to complain to me that you weren't making any money. You are one fucking piece of work.

I don't know what you might call the type of actual content that you offered your customers, Shellee, but it is a safe bet to say that NONE of the "models" you listed above fit into the Young Muscular Male Niche. We tried to tell you this an endless amount of times to choose your chat models carefully. But no, you the fucking expert blew us off. Anyone can see that the guys above were a poor fit to your website.


Now take a look at this:


The above are all girls that work for LiveCamNetwork.com. (And, all of them will be online and chatting tonight for anyone who's interested in saying Hello). When we advertise, we go only for the COLLEGE GIRL traffic, and hire only COLLEGE GIRLS to chat for us (with only the rare exception).

In addition, we insist that all of the girls that work for us, talk to our customers by voice. Each girl Looks at the camera, addresses each customer by name, and is pro-active in getting them to talk. The girls (and guys) you hired did NONE OF THAT except eat Big Macs and whore themselves out to strangers on your website and demand payment by paypal instead of your own CCBill account. I don't know what your guys did but I know they didn't convert at all.

This SIMPLE business model is fairly easy for anyone to understand Shellee. When we sell our LiveCamNetwork system, we tell all of our customers Exactly how we make money and offer to help everyone to do the same, FOR FREE. If you weren't so busy telling us about your expertise, you might have learned to offer quality streams to your customers, and you might have actually made a few bucks.

Mark Prince
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Old 03-17-2008   #4
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Default Re: Do you want Gonzo to post your real name?

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I was completely disatisfied with 2much.net and you Mark Prince why would I continue to work on something destined to fail. Once again you have a huge failure rate with customers you have sold licenses not just me.

Here are a few

www.bkslive.com
www.primalsecrets.com
www.xxxstrippercams.com
www.southerngirlslive.com
www.icutoocams.com
www.orgasmwebkams.com
www.girlsgonecam.com
www.assworshippers.com
www.sexyteaser.com
www.sexyteaserguys.com
www.euroticalive.com
www.livemodelnetwork.com
www.365livecam.com

Right now you have one girl online and no one in paid chat - so why don't you go back to work.
I think that deservers more emphasis so you all can understand why Mark is so furious.

Here let me add a few

www.livehotcamz.com
www.cambabez.com
www.easycyberdate.com
www.livemuscleshow.com
www.livesexydolls.com
www.livebabes.com

So were all these webmasters and clients of 2much.net as bad as me. Do you just have the best luck picking people who will fail on 2Much.net's platform.

I came to you to do a coaching site - completely non-adult. I went in this direction for reasons and my success and failure should not quite be measured in the first 9 months...

Let's look at your site 9 months later....
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://livecamnetwork.com

Boy 10 years at this and you only got 1 girl online.. Maybe you should be out recruiting. at least I had some talent wanting to work on a new site in a saturated market muscles or not.
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Old 03-17-2008   #5
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Shellee, I just remembered what this thread was about...

Are you going to hijack every thread me or Mark post in and turn it into your little 2much target range?

It's getting tiresome, really, and DirtyD made some good points that all your tepid ass-water is just obfuscating...

People should have the right to not have their real names associated with the business if that's what they want. It doesn't mean they have anything to hide.

You live in a very different world than a great majority of people Shellee, and you know it, since you're down the road from Ted Turner or Sweet Jesus or whoever.

Most of us unfortunately live in a world where the good christians in our communities will come pour diesel fuel in your jacuzzi (happened to a friend of mine) if they discover that you produce what they consume (on the sly most probably).

I'm Gregory Martin Morgan Fucking Jones and I live at 5365 Berri in Montreal, Quebec (H2J 2S7) Canada, born August 17th 1966 and I'm in a position not to care about being associated with adult (though who knows I may regret it in the future).

But I don't live in your world and never will no matter how much money I make because it's really not a question of money, that world of yours, is it?

Some people aren't so lucky, and those of us who are should respect that.
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Old 03-17-2008   #6
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Damn I was hoping for another piece of wisdom from Wikipedia.

How many girls and customers are online now?
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