Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6

[gonzo]

Did it take you an hour to come up with that lame assed excuse?

The plug in tracks your mac address not your workgroup name.

No only are you a pussy but your a fucking liar too!

And dont tell everyone you havent been logging in here so it couldnt have been tracked. I know for a fact that you have been logging into that "damned Oprano".

How else would you have congradulated my coworkers on how they were handling our buddy Rcourt?

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

Hello Everyone,

Nice try, Gonzo. I am not “soundslikebullshit”. I was about to blast you big time but now that I think of it I have a pretty good idea of who it is. We sold or gave away a bunch of old computers at our office and replaced them with shiny new ones (I have a brand new Core2 – woohoo!). All of our computers have “2Much” and other info in the Workgroup / Domain network settings. And as anyone who knows me can tell you, I ALWAYS use my real name on all forums either as my username, or as my signature. Anyone can bully behind a pseudonym.

Soundslikebullshit: If you are who I think you are, please take our name out of your workgroup settings. I don’t care what you do or where you post but I would appreciate it if this kind of thing not to be associated in any way with 2Much, thanks.

And besides Soundslikebullshit, you are wrong. I just took a look at Shelle’s site and the Codelifter code is a simple script to let people bookmark her page. You may want to read the the entire script next time before you make an ass of yourself. Here it is:




All it does is create a bookmark for the user, and nothing else. No theft going on here sorry.

Shelleehale: I applaud you on your efforts to keep trying new things, but Mr Bullshit here is right about one thing. The word “kids” anywhere in your page is a huge mistake. Even if it links to nothing, crawlers will find it. If you ever decided to add billing to your site with CCBill for example, they would find this link and refuse your account.

Anyway if I were you Shellee, I would also drop the “Teen” stuff. Not technically illegal, but some companies avoid the teen market and those who promote this niche. Some of the companies that we work with also do not like the word “Lolita”. Technically and legally it has nothing to do with “Teens”, but the famous book written by author Vladimir Nabokov still makes some people nervous I guess.

Regards,

Mark Prince
http://www.2Much.net

[2MuchMark]

Hello again,

Believe anything you like, Gonzo. I have no interest in trying to change your mind about anything at all.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

Hello again,

Believe anything you like, Gonzo. I have no interest in trying to change your mind about anything at all.

Why would anyone want to send their traffic to a program owner who is a liar and bullies women while he hides behind a sock puppet?

Tell me how far of a leap is it to go from liar to thief?

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by gonzo

Why would anyone want to send their traffic to a program owner who is a liar and bullies women while he hides behind a sock puppet?

Tell me how far of a leap is it to go from liar to thief?

I know! It must sure seem like a big mystery to you! Don't work too hard trying to figure this one out.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

I know! It must sure seem like a big mystery to you! Don't work too hard trying to figure this one out.

Im working on the next Playboy mansion party scam.

Im going buy a table for $1000 a seat and offer each of my affilaites the chance of a life time to sit with me at the same table for the price of $2000 a seat.

Did that work out pretty good when you did it?

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by gonzo

Im working on the next Playboy mansion party scam.

Im going buy a table for $1000 a seat and offer each of my affilaites the chance of a life time to sit with me at the same table for the price of $2000 a seat.

Did that work out pretty good when you did it?

Actually Gonzo, since you asked.

The cost of the Playboy spnsorship was $10,000. We were going to give away a free inviations to each of our customers to purchased a license within a certain time. We also offered the chance for previous customers to buy seat at our table for $2000 each.

The cost to us for each seat was $1000 + $250.00 for the show badge which was required, leaving us an $750.00 profit. In the end we partnered with another company for the table, sold several licenses thanks to the promotion, but only a couple to previous customers. Still, it worked out very well for everyone involved.

You have to understand that to someone like you who is already in the industry, going to Playboy is a nice party. But to new people the chance to go to Playboy means much more. Not only did we offer our clients Playboy, but lots of meetings with us and lots of introductions to important people during the entire course of the trade show. We provided our clients with a great entry into the world of adult, capped off with a great night at Playboy. Pardon me Gonzo if you don't think we deserve to make a $750.00 profit for that.

Cheers!

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

Actually Gonzo, since you asked.

The cost of the Playboy spnsorship was $10,000. We were going to give away a free inviations to each of our customers to purchased a license within a certain time. We also offered the chance for previous customers to buy seat at our table for $2000 each.

The cost to us for each seat was $1000 + $250.00 for the show badge which was required, leaving us an $750.00 profit. In the end we partnered with another company for the table, sold several licenses thanks to the promotion, but only a couple to previous customers. Still, it worked out very well for everyone involved.

You have to understand that to someone like you who is already in the industry, going to Playboy is a nice party. But to new people the chance to go to Playboy means much more. Not only did we offer our clients Playboy, but lots of meetings with us and lots of introductions to important people during the entire course of the trade show. We provided our clients with a great entry into the world of adult, capped off with a great night at Playboy. Pardon me Gonzo if you don't think we deserve to make a $750.00 profit for that.

Cheers!

They werent checking for show badges. Lie 3.
Tony Morgan was at that party and I know he didnt have a show badge.

A thousand dollar profit. What a nice way to reward your affiliates and licensees.

Tell me the additional 5% hold back on top of the CCBill holdback... do you consider that a reward too?

[Sexyteaser]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

Actually Gonzo, since you asked.

The cost of the Playboy spnsorship was $10,000. We were going to give away a free inviations to each of our customers to purchased a license within a certain time. We also offered the chance for previous customers to buy seat at our table for $2000 each.

The cost to us for each seat was $1000 + $250.00 for the show badge which was required, leaving us an $750.00 profit. In the end we partnered with another company for the table, sold several licenses thanks to the promotion, but only a couple to previous customers. Still, it worked out very well for everyone involved.

You have to understand that to someone like you who is already in the industry, going to Playboy is a nice party. But to new people the chance to go to Playboy means much more. Not only did we offer our clients Playboy, but lots of meetings with us and lots of introductions to important people during the entire course of the trade show. We provided our clients with a great entry into the world of adult, capped off with a great night at Playboy. Pardon me Gonzo if you don't think we deserve to make a $750.00 profit for that.

Cheers!

Actually if I remember correctly you pretty much stood in the corners all night and hardly talked to anyone. Who are your contacts - I think I have better relationships than you do after only 9 months.

Here is the email you sent me....

[FONT='Calibri','sans-serif']Hi Shellee, [/font]

[FONT='Calibri','sans-serif']I forgot to tell you - we have finalized our plans with Playboy. If you would like to be involved here are the details below. You can also see some pictures located here: http://www.2much.net/playboy.html[/font]
[FONT='Calibri','sans-serif'][/font]
[FONT='Calibri','sans-serif']Mark[/font]



Party with 2Much at the Playboy Mansion.


Dear Client,

2Much Internet Services Inc is pleased to invite you to join us at the word famous Playboy Mansion, in Beverly Hills California, for a unique networking Event on Friday Night November 16th 2007 at 8pm.

Celebrate your new business venture in style as you party at the Mansion, meet other business people, models, celebs, movers and shakers. Among the attendees will be other 2Much Customers, Top Models, Agencies and traffic driving companies, Top Billing and other vital to fast-tracking your business success. This is THE networking event of the year that YOU SHOULD NOT MISS.

Hugh Hefner (aka "Hef") is the supreme bachelor of our time and the ultimate "lifestyle entrepreneur". He has forever changed our world by breaking the boundaries related to sexuality, age, and gender. He created a revolutionary magazine with naked women and great articles in a time when sexuality was not even appropriate to talk about. Now, this is your chance to Party in his home.

2Much Internet Services Inc is very pleased to offer you this night that you will never forget. Delicious food, top-shelf drinks, in one of the most famous places on earth, High Hefner's Playboy Mansion. See the spectacular grounds, home, and of course, the infamous "Gotto" swimming pool.

The cost is $1900.00 Per Person. Availability is EXTREMELY LIMITED. Orders must be placed and paid for by FRIDAY SEPTEMBER 30TH. All Sales are final. Transportation from downtown Los Angeles will be provided and mandatory. You will NOT be able to take your own transportation to this event. All non-recognized cars and limo's will be turned away at the gate. Only 1 pass per person will be available. Absolutely no invitations will be re-issued in the event you lose yours. Must be 18+. Proper Attire is required.

If you would like to attend please contact me, Mark Prince at xxxxxxxx or toll free xxxxxxxx , or by email at xxxxxxxxx.


See you at the Playboy Mansion!

Mark Prince, CEO
2Much Internet Services Inc.
http://www.2Much.net

[Hammer]

Well said ScottMcGowan. I don't care who the fake asshole is and I'm not interested in watching yet another Shellee Hale/Mark Prince shitfest, but the fact that after the references to children in the code was pointed out and yet Shellee chose to defend the reason it was there instead of thanking the person for pointing it out and removing it immediately, is disturbing. And I don't give a rat's ass how many kids she has, this is the kind of shit that can fuck our industry in the ass.

In case I wasn't clear Shellee. GET THE FUCKING SHIT OFF THE SITE NOW OR TAKE THE SITE DOWN UNTIL IT IS!

[Sexyteaser]

Originally Posted by Hammer

Well said ScottMcGowan. I don't care who the fake asshole is and I'm not interested in watching yet another Shellee Hale/Mark Prince shitfest, but the fact that after the references to children in the code was pointed out and yet Shellee chose to defend the reason it was there instead of thanking the person for pointing it out and removing it immediately, is disturbing. And I don't give a rat's ass how many kids she has, this is the kind of shit that can fuck our industry in the ass.

In case I wasn't clear Shellee. GET THE FUCKING SHIT OFF THE SITE NOW OR TAKE THE SITE DOWN UNTIL IT IS!

Hammer - Thanks for your advice; I am sorry you did not agree with my decision. Now, it seems you have some free time on your hands - I have a couple of projects if you are available and know php.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by gonzo

The plug in tracks your mac address not your workgroup name.

No only are you a pussy but your a fucking liar too!

Actually Gonzo, you're wrong (and quite possibly a liar). MAC addresses are the unique addresses of any Network card in any pc, and are not transmitted in TCP/IP packets off of the local network to the Internet. You cannot obtain the MAC Address of a PC on the Internet unless that PC was running an application that would first obtain the mac address, and then publish it somehow. At any rate, you may want to re-read what I said earlier.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

Actually Gonzo, you're wrong (and quite possibly a liar). MAC addresses are the unique addresses of any Network card in any pc, and are not transmitted in TCP/IP packets off of the local network to the Internet. You cannot obtain the MAC Address of a PC on the Internet unless that PC was running an application that would first obtain the mac address, and then publish it somehow. At any rate, you may want to re-read what I said earlier.

Yeah everyone is wrong except for you Mark.

I guess now your going to tell me how probable it is that both IDs are in montreal as well.

You have a history of this shit with Shellee and I dont care either way. When you want to hide behind a sock puppet is when I do have a problem.

Take that shit to GFY. I wont have it here.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by gonzo

Yeah everyone is wrong except for you Mark.

I guess now your going to tell me how probable it is that both IDs are in montreal as well.

You have a history of this shit with Shellee and I dont care either way. When you want to hide behind a sock puppet is when I do have a problem.

Take that shit to GFY. I wont have it here.

Gonzo,
Our office is located in Monteral, Canada. The computers went to locals as I said earlier. No mystery there.

Shellee and I stopped doing business together months ago but it does not mean that I do not wish her well. You are the one who seems to want to stir stuff up.

You may want to stop the the "take it to GFY" thing. You only wish you had their popularity. You know as well as everyone else that a little drama here and there is good for any site because it attracts hits and therefore more banner impressions for you to brag to your advertisers about.

Anyway I have said my bit. I have emailed the person who I suspect needs to change their workgroup / domain (with a little Smarten-up message for good measure). I wish everyone a very nice day.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

Gonzo,
Our office is located in Monteral, Canada. The computers went to locals as I said earlier. No mystery there.

Shellee and I stopped doing business together months ago but it does not mean that I do not wish her well. You are the one who seems to want to stir stuff up.

You may want to stop the the "take it to GFY" thing. You only wish you had their popularity. You know as well as everyone else that a little drama here and there is good for any site because it attracts hits and therefore more banner impressions for you to brag to your advertisers about.

Anyway I have said my bit. I have emailed the person who I suspect needs to change their workgroup / domain (with a little Smarten-up message for good measure). I wish everyone a very nice day.

Hmmm you wish her well? How do you wish her well when you told her that you would do everything within your power to see that she didnt succeed?

Another lie.

As Ive told you on the mechanics of running this board.
I got this.
I dont need your advice.

Use that industry expert knowledge you tell your clients that you have to keep your webcam business rolling.

That way you wont have to lay off 3 more people.

[Hammer]

If business is so good why are you using templates, and bad ones at that?

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by gonzo

Hmmm you wish her well? How do you wish her well when you told her that you would do everything within your power to see that she didnt succeed?

Another lie.

As Ive told you on the mechanics of running this board.
I got this.
I dont need your advice.

Use that industry expert knowledge you tell your clients that you have to keep your webcam business rolling.

That way you wont have to lay off 3 more people.

Shellee, Did I ever say that to you?

Gonzo: 2Much is primarily an exporter. We sell our live streams to mostly Amercian end users. Running a business with 30 employees is tough to do, and when the US dollar drops from almost $1.40 to $.98 as it did in the last few years, companies with lots of people (read: lots of expenses) need to react.

I am happy to say that everyone here at 2Much are friends, and when lay offs have to occur as they did, it is not a pleasant thing. It is very very hard to do when you care for your employees as much as I do. You are a 1 man show so you will never have to worry about that, but trust me, it's not a position that anyone would like to be in.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

Shellee, Did I ever say that to you?

Gonzo: 2Much is primarily an exporter. We sell our live streams to mostly Amercian end users. Running a business with 30 employees is tough to do, and when the US dollar drops from almost $1.40 to $.98 as it did in the last few years, companies with lots of people (read: lots of expenses) need to react.

I am happy to say that everyone here at 2Much are friends, and when lay offs have to occur as they did, it is not a pleasant thing. It is very very hard to do when you care for your employees as much as I do. You are a 1 man show so you will never have to worry about that, but trust me, it's not a position that anyone would like to be in.

You didnt say it Mark... you emailed it.

[moetheman]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

Actually Gonzo, you're wrong (and quite possibly a liar). MAC addresses are the unique addresses of any Network card in any pc, and are not transmitted in TCP/IP packets off of the local network to the Internet. You cannot obtain the MAC Address of a PC on the Internet unless that PC was running an application that would first obtain the mac address, and then publish it somehow. At any rate, you may want to re-read what I said earlier.

You are full of shit or have no clue what you are talking about. MAC address tracking is COMMON - and don't even come back with some idiotic play-on-words-sidestep-the-issue-bullshit . . . anyone who has it together KNOWS that MAC address tracking is common . . . please . . .

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by moetheman

You are full of shit or have no clue what you are talking about. MAC address tracking is COMMON - and don't even come back with some idiotic play-on-words-sidestep-the-issue-bullshit . . . anyone who has it together KNOWS that MAC address tracking is common . . . please . . .

MAC Addresses are known in a LAN (Local Area Network) environment. For example, you can tell your wireless router to accept a connection from your wireless computer by allowing only its MAC address to connect. However this MAC address is not available via a WAN, or Wide Area Network because it is simply not transmitted as a part of any tcp/ip packet.

You can read more at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_address

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

MAC Addresses are known in a LAN (Local Area Network) environment. For example, you can tell your wireless router to accept a connection from your wireless computer by allowing only its MAC address to connect. However this MAC address is not available via a WAN, or Wide Area Network because it is simply not transmitted as a part of any tcp/ip packet.

You can read more at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_address

I did not go read the article but I do know that a Mac Address can be read through a packet sniffer. So, they may not show in the tcp transaction received, they are part of the tcp packet.

[moetheman]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

MAC Addresses are known in a LAN (Local Area Network) environment. For example, you can tell your wireless router to accept a connection from your wireless computer by allowing only its MAC address to connect. However this MAC address is not available via a WAN, or Wide Area Network because it is simply not transmitted as a part of any tcp/ip packet.

You can read more at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_address

You read WIKIPEDIA articles for your info?

The MAC address does not need to be available on a WAN . . . all that is needed is the IP address. Once that is available, only a SECURE system would prevent someone (or someone's software) from obtaining the MAC address.

This is common knowledge.