Vince McMahon to Be Immortalized

[TheEnforcer]

Originally Posted by vdc-Loki

Not to get off on a tear here or to push any buttons but....

Bischoff had NOTHING to do with the actual downfall of WCW, in all honesty Turner FIRST sold WCW to Time Warner (pretty sure it was those guys) and TW started running the place into the ground, Bischoff was trying to buy it from TW but the funding fell through.

When Bischoff WAS in charge of WCW it beat WWF/WWE every week in ratings, the moment it went corp. with TW it started to slip, and then pretty much sucked ass.

Under Bischoff's reign we saw the NWO, Raven's Flock, the return of the Horsemen, and more, there is a big interview with Eric on youtube that explains what all went wrong and how he's pretty much been given the blame for the wrong reasons.

personally, (and it's just my 2 cents) Bischoff is far better then Vince any day, all I saw was Vince coping the same storylines from WCW the next week lol, granted Vince DID change wrestling on TV, but the actual SHOWMAN was Eric and Paul Heymen

-Loki-

You're joking right?? Just two small examples of what i am talking about is the NWO. Great angle. definitely a white hot angle but they blew it because Bischoff refused to let the NWO ever get their comeuppance. Fans got sick and tired of seeing the same crap over and over again cause they knew the NWO would always be protected by politic backstage and anyoen who challenged them wouldn't get anywhere. perfect example. For a FULL YEAR they paid Sting to not wrestle a match and had fans WHITE HOT for his Starrcade match with Hogan. Fans were begging for a Sting win and have him take the title. It's smart busines to do so. o what did they do? Kept the title on Hogan and screw ting over and make him look impotent.

The Horseman. What did they do with the Horsemen. Bishcoff tried to BURY the Horsemen. Every time they went to Flair country they would bury the Horsemen. perfect example. War Games in Flair country Horsemen vs NWO. Horsemen seeking revenge for craop the NWO has pulled so what happen in the heart of Hosrsemen country? They get buried yet again and have one of their own turn on them. Par for the coure in the Bihoff protect your friends playbook no matter whether it's smart busine or not.

i HIGHLY uggest you check out The Death of WCW and you'll see what i am talking about. Great book.

[Robert]

Never was much into wrastlin but I do miss the XFL. That was the only football I'd watch.

[vdc-Loki]

Originally Posted by TheEnforcer

You're joking right?? Just two small examples of what i am talking about is the NWO. Great angle. definitely a white hot angle but they blew it because Bischoff refused to let the NWO ever get their comeuppance. Fans got sick and tired of seeing the same crap over and over again cause they knew the NWO would always be protected by politic backstage and anyoen who challenged them wouldn't get anywhere. perfect example. For a FULL YEAR they paid Sting to not wrestle a match and had fans WHITE HOT for his Starrcade match with Hogan. Fans were begging for a Sting win and have him take the title. It's smart busines to do so. o what did they do? Kept the title on Hogan and screw ting over and make him look impotent.

The Horseman. What did they do with the Horsemen. Bishcoff tried to BURY the Horsemen. Every time they went to Flair country they would bury the Horsemen. perfect example. War Games in Flair country Horsemen vs NWO. Horsemen seeking revenge for craop the NWO has pulled so what happen in the heart of Hosrsemen country? They get buried yet again and have one of their own turn on them. Par for the coure in the Bihoff protect your friends playbook no matter whether it's smart busine or not.

i HIGHLY uggest you check out The Death of WCW and you'll see what i am talking about. Great book.

I'll deff look into that book, more so if there is ANY kind of audio version, I've not had the time to actually SIT and read a book for many years, BUT thanks to Audio Books I still get to "Read" quite often lol.

In terms of the NWO, if I'm not mistaken didn't that play out during the before and after TW buyout? if so It would make perfect sense as to why it got old and stale with no actual payoff.

I remember allot of NWO storylines, the black n white, then the red n black then if I remember didn't the two factions then fight eachother? (it's been damn near 10 years lol)

As for the Horsemen, they were first reformed to "Stop" the NWO right? it didn't work all that well but it did make for good stories

But I'll deff give that book a look!

-Loki-

[TheEnforcer]

I read the book in an afternoon. It's a little over three humdred pages and it's a fast read. Couldn't put it down once I started. I know you would enjoy it immensely as a fan.