How will the recession effect our industry?

[EmporerEJ]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

There is a huge difference between then and now. Back then, there was no war draining the US budget. Back then, there was no fear of terrorism. Back then, there was still hope. Now it is a whole new ball game. But like I said, it will change. It always does.
However, you have been pounding your buggy whip drum for years and it still has not happened. The subscription model has been around for a century or more, so I see no reason to believe that it will die like typewriters or dial phones.
It is a fundamental business model that works for everything from mobile phones to cable providers to leasing a car. So why you think the sky is falling on this particular model is beyond me. Some may have to rethink how they deliver and/or present it, but the concept is intact.

As usual, you try to be condescending in your reply. But since you aren't being completely boorish, I will answer your response.
War draining Budget? Irrelevant to the man on the street. It really hasn't influenced the average guy, and despite what you think you see in the media, the regular people just don't care. The only place it touches them is in the higher cost of gas, which is actually a boon for the online industry, if anything.
The man on the street also doesn't "fear" terrorism. I live within the "kill radius" of Three mile island, as well as peach bottom nuclear power plant, and haven't heard anyone mention it in reference to "terrorism."

In fact, the biggest scandal there (peach bottom) was the firing of the entire security company because of their sleeping on duty. That's "how worried" they are about terrorism.

And if you bothered to read the entire thread, you would have noted I wasn't the one saying the subscription model was "failing." But I do think there is a tidal wave coming, beyond all the free x tube sites.
Once the movie boys dump their old content, there will be a flood of cheap 'n ' ez content around. And will all be "new" to this generation.

I'm not worried, as my business model has nothing to do with the subscription model. We'll get by.

[softball]

irrelevant to the man on the street.

Not for long. What you fail to realize is that the price of gas is just the obvious manifestation of this oil crisis. Plastic has increased by a huge amount. A garbage can that cost twenty bucks now costs thirty and that filters through every walk of life, including, I am sure your business. I only mention you because you have been pounding this drum for years and nothing has changed. Your prescience has been abysmal in your analysis of this particular issue. The sky has been falling in Peach Bottom (wherever that is) for years. Not around here. My real income has fallen fifty percent in three years, yet my monthly income is still growing. But that is beyond my control and has been hammered by the falling dollar. However, I still live a very good life and travel three or four months a year and can still afford the insurance on my old sports car and live in an amazing place that I never dreamed I would be able to afford. So I say this only to make the point that I think you are wrong in your assessment of the future. However, I don't dismiss your acumen, because God knows you could be right and my bets are hedged in bricks and mortar.

[softball]

and btw, you should be worried as anyone in retail with any sense is. You can't swim against the market when you have a non essential item aimed at the masses. You ain't selling Lambos.

[KevinG]

Wow. Great thread.

In general, I agree with Forest that this business is recession resistant. My business is rolling along. All of these areas are either up or steady for me, and nothing is down:

B2B side: Web Development, SEO & Consulting, Traffic development - all doing good.

B2C side: Burning Angel, Joanna Angel, Cigar Glamour - all sites have subscriptions up.

Tobacco (since it was mentioned) - Referral sales for Cigar Review are up. Keep in mind too that premium handmade cigars are more of a luxury product than an addiction, like cigarettes.

The only thing that I have heard is down a little is advertising spending on the B2B side in the adult online business, but that was just from one person.

[boobman]

I think its not recession proof but recesion resistant. And porn IS a commodity no doubht bout it.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by KevinG

Wow. Great thread.

In general, I agree with Forest that this business is recession resistant. My business is rolling along. All of these areas are either up or steady for me, and nothing is down:

B2B side: Web Development, SEO & Consulting, Traffic development - all doing good.

B2C side: Burning Angel, Joanna Angel, Cigar Glamour - all sites have subscriptions up.

Tobacco (since it was mentioned) - Referral sales for Cigar Review are up. Keep in mind too that premium handmade cigars are more of a luxury product than an addiction, like cigarettes.

The only thing that I have heard is down a little is advertising spending on the B2B side in the adult online business, but that was just from one person.

Board business is hard work. Posting bullshit and fake drama has run its course. AP knows who to call when they want the straight scoop.

[softball]

Originally Posted by gonzo

Board business is hard work. Posting bullshit and fake drama has run its course. AP knows who to call when they want the straight scoop.

Drama has run its course I agree. Tube sites are as scarey as tgp's were in the day. It still all depends on your USP as it did then, as it does now, and as it always shall.

[tony404]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

Drama has run its course I agree. Tube sites are as scarey as tgp's were in the day. It still all depends on your USP as it did then, as it does now, and as it always shall.

tubes and tgps are two completely different things. 15 pics in gallery against 30 min movies, not even in the same ball park.