Yahoo Scare: Hidden dangers in visiting porn sites

[TheEnforcer]

Originally Posted by EmporerEJ

I'm not saying it's NOT an adult site, or an adult oriented site.
But, like any other business, there are good people, and bad people.
The people I've met in this business are some of the nicest, greatest, and most accepting people anywhere.

I agree. I have lifelong friends from this business and have found a TON of greta people. That said, I've seen my share of not so great oens as well over the years.

Quite frankly, I prefer to hang out with them to non-adult people, BECAUSE they are decent people. They accept you for what you are, and who you are, and treat you with respect.

I ahve no problem hanging out with either types of people as either my friends accept me or they don't no matter what they do. That isn't the issue though.

What I'm saying is, you can't tar "adult industry" all with the same brush.
When an automobile worker robs a bank, we don't say "automobile industry guy robs bank."

This is different to me than the content issues as this is BUSINESS PRACTICES and quite frankly this industry has proven over and over that it will find new and better ways to screw people. There is a LEGITIMATE REASON the credit card comapnies, the FCC and others have problems with this industry BEYOND the content on the sites.

This, of course, doesn't include Gonzo, who WILL promise you a Krispy Kreme donut party, and when you arrive, he's eaten all the donuts. This, of course, being an inexcusable crime under any circumstances.

Well, of course. LOL

[EmporerEJ]

Originally Posted by TheEnforcer

This is different to me than the content issues as this is BUSINESS PRACTICES and quite frankly this industry has proven over and over that it will find new and better ways to screw people. There is a LEGITIMATE REASON the credit card comapnies, the FCC and others have problems with this industry BEYOND the content on the sites.

A, as in One legitimate reason......
I don't doubt there are scammers in the industry. Is it worse than many other, including Gambling? Timeshare, etc? Now, before you start nodding your head, filter out all the limp dick men that say, "I don't know where that charge came from Hon, it must be a scam."


But it's not the ONLY reasons....
More importantly is the STATED reason they oppose the industry...BECAUSE we are adult.

Was I the only one remembering ten years ago? It made all the papers, and all the TV news talking heads. The government made it very clear they would cut the legs out from the adult industry by attacking it's payment methods. they openly said they were gonna do it, then proceeded to do so.
Here we are, saying Huh?

There is a very real war on adult financial industry by the do-gooders, and the credit card industry is their shill.

[RawAlex]

I have had the same opinion for years:

The porn business (honest part) has failed over and over again to distance itself from the less than honest parts of the business. Toolbars, spammers, viruses, credit card hoaxes and all sorts of shit have happened, and few people lift a finger.

Is anyone surprised that the general public dumps us with all of the shit that we turn a blind eye to? Most of the major companies in the business have at one time or another knowingly profited from pretty much every one of those things, so why would we suddenly be upset because Yahoo is telling everyone the truth.

The distrust and general disdain for porn site operators has been earned, not given.

[EmporerEJ]

Originally Posted by RawAlex

I have had the same opinion for years:

The porn business (honest part) has failed over and over again to distance itself from the less than honest parts of the business. Toolbars, spammers, viruses, credit card hoaxes and all sorts of shit have happened, and few people lift a finger.

And what exactly were we supposed to do? Call the porn police? Gonzo is busy, so who's left?

I also didn't chase down the guys from Enron, (because I bought electric,) or Martha Stewart (cause I don't think she should have been prosecuted AND I bought stock too....,) So, which ones was I supposed to take care of?

I didn't get the memo.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by EmporerEJ

And what exactly were we supposed to do? Call the porn police? Gonzo is busy, so who's left?

I also didn't chase down the guys from Enron, (because I bought electric,) or Martha Stewart (cause I don't think she should have been prosecuted AND I bought stock too....,) So, which ones was I supposed to take care of?

I didn't get the memo.

GonZo has gotten help.

I had a chance to meet some of the folks at Verisign while in LA.
Knowledge is power.

Check out Shellee Hale's Pornafia how you can get informed on this and fight back...

http://www.pornafia.org/showthread.php?p=87#post87

[miz_wright]

Check it out: actual information about this story.

[EmporerEJ]

Originally Posted by LizAEBN

Check it out: actual information about this story.

Here's a good part:

I paid but I still receive invoices.
When you paid, a "member number" or '”access code" was listed which should have been listed on your payment. If your payment was recently sent, you need to allow approximately one week for processing. If you believe enough time has passed, you may contact the company directly using the customer service support number or e-mail. It is also possible that a partial payment was made and a balance is still due. Please check your records to assure that the amount was paid in full.


TOS You gotta love this:

12.5 If You choose to ignore the payment reminders and do not pay the Membership Fee, You hereby understand and acknowledge that the prompt reminders may become more frequent and that You may lose the ability to use Your computer until You have submitted payment. The payment reminders will be active while your computer is online or offline.

These jackasses use a computer extortion method of collecting payment. They should be smashed, drummed out of the industry.