50 Most Influencial People in Online Adult

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by Hammer

I agree Joe, that Bob is certainly an influential force in our industry and has helped a lot of people and I personally owe a lot to Bob. Whether he's one of the 50 most influential people is what I think Gonzo was questioning.

I started the thread for a discussion.
It wasnt intended to piss on Bobs head. Like I said I like Bob.

He just not on my top 50 list. Like what I have to say matters anyhow.
Hell I wouldnt be on my top 50 list either.

[JoesHO]

Originally Posted by gonzo

I started the thread for a discussion.
It wasnt intended to piss on Bobs head. Like I said I like Bob.

He just not on my top 50 list. Like what I have to say matters anyhow.
Hell I wouldnt be on my top 50 list either.

Well I would also say that Personally, Gonzo has always been willing to lend a hand and help where he could too.

Picking a top 50 would be hard, I think more parameters would need to be defined in order to do so. I mean if someone is a crook and they influenced the biz are they a "top 50" over a hard working man that has always tried to be about businesss and do good by others involved? what are the standards here that is my question I guess. does money and profit mean "top" like in real life? or does integrity and workmanlike manner and honesty matter ?

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by JoesHO

Well I would also say that Personally, Gonzo has always been willing to lend a hand and help where he could too.

Picking a top 50 would be hard, I think more parameters would need to be defined in order to do so. I mean if someone is a crook and they influenced the biz are they a "top 50" over a hard working man that has always tried to be about businesss and do good by others involved? what are the standards here that is my question I guess. does money and profit mean "top" like in real life? or does integrity and workmanlike manner and honesty matter ?

Things have a way of working themselves out in the end.
Im sure you can think of a few instances where this applys to me.

If you cant then . . . maybe Joe Francis knows.

[softball]

John Ashcroft?

[JoesHO]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

John Ashcroft?

Well by that logic, we would have to nominate Al gore, I mean after all he was responsible for inventing the internet and without it there could be no online porn at all!

[bluemoney]

I’ll take a pass on this one because I don’t have the history.

If I were to come up with my personal list it would have some people already listed here and contain the names of several mods from a few boards.

[Sexyteaser]

Here is my vote....


Francis Koenig for stepping up and validating the value of some adult companies that deserved it.

Shellee

www.sexyteaser.com
www.sexyteaserguys.com





Getting in the Skin Game

An entrepreneur tries to make it easier for everyone to profit from one of the economy's dirty little secrets.


By Paul Sloan, Business 2.0 Magazine editor-at-large
February 13 2007: 12:24 PM EST


(Business 2.0 Magazine) -- Wall Street is largely a boys club, a place packed with hypercompetitive tough guys proud to wear their machismo on their sleeves. Yet there's still one investment the Street is generally wary of: porn.
That's why Francis Koenig, a onetime Wall Street hedge fund executive now based in Los Angeles, believes there are riches to be made by matching investors with "adult entertainment" companies. He believes that plenty of people would back the industry if there were vehicles commonly available to do so.
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His reasoning is simple: Porn is a lucrative part of the American economy, hovering around $12 billion a year. And there are hundreds of porn outfits hungry for financing to become more than bedroom operations.
"There just hasn't been a good way to invest in this market," says Koenig, 31.
An opportunity for small-time investors?
He launched AdultVest late last year to change that. He's been courting investors and combing the country for small and medium-size porn businesses, some of which boast profit margins upwards of 60 percent. The response has been strong: Koenig says he's signed up well over 1,000 potential investors since January.
For now, he's catering to investors with big money, although he says his approach will eventually evolve to serve the investing masses. He's raising money for two funds: a $100 million fund that requires a minimum investment of $1 million, and a $10 million fund with a $100,000 minimum.
Accredited investors can sign up on AdultVest.com to qualify, and Koenig says people are signing up at the rate of 15 per day. Roughly 300 companies - including website-porn subscription businesses, escort services, and strip clubs - have registered. Investors can also use the AdultVest marketplace to hook up directly with companies.
Koenig has a good track record: The New World Partners hedge fund, where he was a managing director, posted double- and triple-digit returns through the late '90s - and he thinks similar returns are possible with porn. His funds are set up like any venture capital fund and will invest in a range of businesses, with a portion of each earmarked for buying and running strip clubs.
Adding some Wall Street finesse
The overarching strategy is to take majority stakes in businesses that AdultVest will then help manage and consolidate. Koenig won't say how close he is to raising the total $110 million, but to help the sell, he and his team won't charge any performance fee until the funds return 100 percent.
"There's never been big money from the outside," says Paul Fishbein, president of the leading porn trade tracker, AVN Publications, about the industry. "It's a logical next step."
Koenig is also working with large investors who are looking to take direct stakes in companies. Part of the pitch is that he ensures all investors total anonymity. "They're creating a market that's never existed in an industry that's highly private," says one Miami-based investor who's looking to back firms with $5 million to $30 million in revenue.
For all the skittishness about investing in adult entertainment, Koenig points out that the smart money is catching on.
Playboy, for example, recently acquired the far racier empire of porn star Jenna Jameson for $17.6 million. And in August, New Frontier Media, a pay-per-view video distributor, received a buyout offer from Warren Lichtenstein, a tough-as-nails New York hedge fund manager who's been going after companies he sees as ripe for turbocharged growth.
To Koenig, such moves show the promise of bringing Wall Street sophistication to what is now a supremely inefficient market.
In fact, he's had talks with several brokerages interested in syndicating deals to sell to their Main Street investors. "People just need to get less shy," Koenig says, "and they'll realize that there's silly money to be made here."

[Buckwheat]

I vote or Bill (pastie ass, ain’t got no muthafuckin reason to have such a shitty ass muthafuckin haircut) Gates . . . Dude is one Funky Hunky!

PS. Gotdamn I hate folowing a muthafukin infomercial.

[Allen]

On my own top 50 list I'd have to put BillPMB... He was the first guy preaching(and doing) about having great members areas for sites to ensure long term profits. That was an unpopular opinion in those days.

Anyone who remember members areas back in the day will know what I mean

[Hell Puppy]

Originally Posted by Allen

On my own top 50 list I'd have to put BillPMB... He was the first guy preaching(and doing) about having great members areas for sites to ensure long term profits. That was an unpopular opinion in those days.

Anyone who remember members areas back in the day will know what I mean

Is he still arond?

Haven't seen him, or Lisa for that matter, in ages....so I figured that program was long since tits up.

[Hammer]

ummm... Shellee, what the hell was that?

[Lisa]

Originally Posted by Hell Puppy

Is he still arond?

Haven't seen him, or Lisa for that matter, in ages....so I figured that program was long since tits up.

Still around...as is BillPMB and PornMegaBucks. Haven't had much to say so I haven't logged in for a while but I still read most days.

I think that would make me an official lurker.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by Lisa

Still around...as is BillPMB and PornMegaBucks. Haven't had much to say so I haven't logged in for a while but I still read most days.

I think that would make me an official lurker.

Google Analytics sees everyone from Vancouver to Australia.

[softball]

Originally Posted by Buckwheat

I vote or Bill (pastie ass, ain’t got no muthafuckin reason to have such a shitty ass muthafuckin haircut) Gates . . . Dude is one Funky Hunky!

PS. Gotdamn I hate folowing a muthafukin infomercial.

Bill Gates is numero uno. Without him, we would all still be shining shoes.

[Hell Puppy]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

Bill Gates is numero uno. Without him, we would all still be shining shoes.

Or worse....using Macs.

[Allen]

HP,

Not really, but since I saw people mixing the past and present...

[Hell Puppy]

Originally Posted by Allen

HP,

Not really, but since I saw people mixing the past and present...

Yeah, we should really do that list too....I think that would be tougher....tough to bring it down to 50.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by Allen

HP,

Not really, but since I saw people mixing the past and present...

The lists are good fun.
Thanks for you contribution!

I need to recap this thing later today and I think we are a long way from fiddy.

Anyone else want to contribute?

[Sharpie]

ADULTDEX :-) Our first try as a tradeshow company. Learn as you go, and we sure learned a lot:-) I am surprised that many people were around in 1995. Those were sure some great memories! 10 yrs of Cybernet.... maybe it is time for retirement:-)

[Doktor_Scarecrow]

hmmmm.....lets see here....just right off the top of my head, if we are talking entertainers, I would have to say............................................... ..............SQUIRTING CARLY! and that's all.



I'm just fucking with you. While she's the most important in my mind, others that come to mind are Christine Young, Liz Vicious, Naughty Nati, and Sweet Kara......and I'm done.

Have a dark day,
DoKtOr ScArEcRoW

[Jace]

Originally Posted by Doktor_Scarecrow

hmmmm.....lets see here....just right off the top of my head, if we are talking entertainers, I would have to say............................................... ..............SQUIRTING CARLY! and that's all.



I'm just fucking with you. While she's the most important in my mind, others that come to mind are Christine Young, Liz Vicious, Naughty Nati, and Sweet Kara......and I'm done.

Have a dark day,
DoKtOr ScArEcRoW

ok, look man, I am not trying to scare you off in any way or insult your intelligence

this is an adult BUSINESS forum....meaning, 99.9% of us that post here work in the adult industry and we conduct business within the adult industry here

not saying fans aren't a great thing and all, we love every last fan of our girls and sites, but your praise of performers will probably fall on deaf ears

there is a great forum on oprano for porn fans here http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/forumdisplay.php?f=45

you might also check out www.freeones.com, it is a whole community of porn fans
check this thread out about carly
http://board.freeones.com/showthread...ight=squirting

[Doktor_Scarecrow]

No disrespect, but i'm getting tired of being told what I can and cannot post. Gonzo said that I could hang around if I liked. After all, the title was 50 most influential people on online adult. SO I threw my three cents in that's all. Maybe I should just quit posting here altogether, and be banished to one of those message boards where NOBODY responds. Damn. I'm just a freakin fan here.

[Toby]

Originally Posted by Doktor_Scarecrow

...I'm just a freakin fan here.

Exactly, so keep that in mind when making replies in BUSINESS topics.

[Rcourt64]

Originally Posted by Doktor_Scarecrow

No disrespect, but i'm getting tired of being told what I can and cannot post. Gonzo said that I could hang around if I liked. After all, the title was 50 most influential people on online adult. SO I threw my three cents in that's all. Maybe I should just quit posting here altogether, and be banished to one of those message boards where NOBODY responds. Damn. I'm just a freakin fan here.

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