Mike South punks out Joanna Angel

[Hammer]

Originally Posted by KevinG

Not always.

There are lots of professional producers and models / performers for hire that one can contract with to have exclusive content produced.

I do it all the time.

That still doesn't mean that newbies with $100,000 to start a pay site with should jump right in and start buying up $60,000 worth of content before they even know that they'll be able to market the site they put it in.

I for one seriously doubt that Playboy would have hired Joanna to direct if she wasn't qualified so somehow it seems to me that Mike South's comment was made out of jealousy.

[KevinG]

Originally Posted by Hammer

I for one seriously doubt that Playboy would have hired Joanna to direct if she wasn't qualified so somehow it seems to me that Mike South's comment was made out of jealousy.

Ya think? LOL!

[TheEnforcer]

Ahhh.. the old chicken vs the egg dilemma. Traffic or content.

A couple things...

1- IMHO- traffic is and always will be king. If a webmaster has traffic they can ALWAYS make money with it somehow. Even the shittiest traffic has value to somone you can dump it to and make money.... Having that stream of money/traffic is important and learning how to get the traffic stream is paramount these days.

Sponsor plug- And if you have good traffic you can send it places like http://www.2.livejasmin.com/advertise/ and get paid well for it.

2-Exclusive custom content is always a good thing to have but I need plenty of people to see it to lewverage it and make it pay off in a big way long term.

3- If anyone was mad at Gonzo and Hammer for pointing this out at the seminar well, let me just say, they shouldn't have been. Those panels often have people with competing views on them and at times they will and should be challenged on their views on an issue.

4- Gonzo is gonna be on a panel again in Florida. Can't remember what the issue is off hand but I am sure oif you disagree with his advice on the topic he would welcome people to challenge him on it.

5- No idea who's the better director between the Mike and Joanna and am only familiar with them by name and not what their work is like. I haven't rented an adult video in years now. That said, I am sure both have their fans that love their work.

[KevinG]

Originally Posted by TheEnforcer

4- Gonzo is gonna be on a panel again in Florida. Can't remember what the issue is off hand but I am sure if you disagree with his advice on the topic he would welcome people to challenge him on it.

There goes my plan to just hang out at the pool with Hammer, Kelly (from Rackco) and Laura, drinking and smoking cigars.

Now I have to go to at least one of the seminars.

Fucking Gonzo! ;-)

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by TheEnforcer

4- Gonzo is gonna be on a panel again in Florida. Can't remember what the issue is off hand but I am sure oif you disagree with his advice on the topic he would welcome people to challenge him on it.

AVN lost their mind I guess. First they have me profiled in the magazine this month...[not on the cover like Joanna though!] and now its a panel in Miami.

Saturday, August 4, 1:00pm – 2:30pm
Think Tank: Community Sites: Community sites and user-submitted content present both challenges and opportunities to adult entertainment entrepreneurs. What's going to be the next big thing in the realm, and — more importantly - how will these sites make money?


If no one else shows maybe me and Womack can teabag each other.

[Hammer]

Originally Posted by gonzo

AVN lost their mind I guess. First they have me profiled in the magazine this month...[not on the cover like Joanna though!] and now its a panel in Miami.

Saturday, August 4, 1:00pm – 2:30pm
Think Tank: Community Sites: Community sites and user-submitted content present both challenges and opportunities to adult entertainment entrepreneurs. What's going to be the next big thing in the realm, and — more importantly - how will these sites make money?


If no one else shows maybe me and Womack can teabag each other.

If Womack's on the panel you won't get a word in edge wise.

[KevinG]

Here's the new design concept in case anyone is interested.
http://joannaangel.com/home_002.jpg

[softball]

I think this whole thread is hilarious and shit. Not to put to fine a point on it.
Firstly an avn award means nothing in the real world. Gimme a break. Best blow job of the year? LMFAO. Secondly, it takes not talent to direct porn.
Can I say that again? No talent. I have worked in film and tv most of my life at a very high level and what I do now is thumbsucker crap. However it makes a shitpot of money and it looks the way it should to do that. It is cheap as chips...not even the budget of a lens rental....to produce a video. Hell give me a ten grand budget and I will give you the porn remake of gone with the freeking wind (just kidding, but you get my drift). So who the fuck cares about an avn award. I wouldn't even put that on my mantel. My friends would just laugh.
Traffic is not freeking king. It is an heir apparent and possibly a crown prince. I like traffic. In fact I love traffic. But my business is content. I often wonder if traffic is king why there are so many broke ass traffic rats making a few thousand a month and crowing like playas. I would guess, and this is just based on anecdotal observations, that the "average" content producer makes more than the "average" traffic rat.
Don't get me wrong, because, contrary to popular belief I am not an idiot, I appreciate and respect both traffic and content because in perfect harmony, they produce a business that you can make a shitp0t of money and not work too terribly hard. In fact in this business it seems the less you work, the more money you make.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by Hammer

That still doesn't mean that newbies with $100,000 to start a pay site with should jump right in and start buying up $60,000 worth of content before they even know that they'll be able to market the site they put it in.

I for one seriously doubt that Playboy would have hired Joanna to direct if she wasn't qualified so somehow it seems to me that Mike South's comment was made out of jealousy.

Playboy isnt known fr its past vdeo or online prowess. Lets hope this is the start of something good. I ant to see my stock grow!

[Hammer]

Originally Posted by gonzo

Playboy isnt known fr its past vdeo or online prowess. Lets hope this is the start of something good. I ant to see my stock grow!

Any Playboy video I've seen always seemed to be well directed.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by Hammer

Any Playboy video I've seen always seemed to be well directed.

I thnk Ill go buy a Mike South DVD.

[Hammer]

Originally Posted by gonzo

I thnk Ill go buy a Mike South DVD.

I'd like to see it when you're done. I'm always interested in seeing work from top notch directors.