$350 for acting in a porn flick?

[Greg B]

Ja, I know.

That's why a performer is best if they know how to run their own sites. That way they get the lion's share of the dough instead.

I have webmasters ask me to do toon sites for them every freakin' day. The large magazines also. I don't because I didn't have the time and why do it for other people when I can make the dough myself and offer an affiliate program instead?

One thing about toon performers, you don't gotta pay em'.

[Jace]

Originally Posted by Greg B

Ja, I know.

That's why a performer is best if they know how to run their own sites. That way they get the lion's share of the dough instead.

actually, starting your own site as a performaer is a horrible idea unless you have the backing from a major studio or net company....the solo girl market is so flooded these days, harder and harder to make a buck, very few are going to survive the next year or two without people like nscash, medium pimpin, porn stardollars, etc in your corner

porn sucks

[Greg B]

Originally Posted by Jace

actually, starting your own site as a performaer is a horrible idea unless you have the backing from a major studio or net company....the solo girl market is so flooded these days, harder and harder to make a buck, very few are going to survive the next year or two without people like nscash, medium pimpin, porn stardollars, etc in your corner

porn sucks

I disagree to a degree. Depends on the talent, personality, niche, expression. Some models/actors can hold their own because they know what they're doing and they stand out. It's few but still you only need 1,000 members a month recurring to make decent enough dough to set aside. If you're a greedy bastard who wants yachts and shit then you deserve to fall off.

I run a one man operation, did it part, part time and still made more dough than most. My overhead is minimal because I only pay one person, the hosting company. I live a rough life you wouldn't believe and if I told you, you'ld flee for the hills. I can now take time off and just have fun focusing on the sites more.

You're smart. You know what you're doing. You probably don't need a major studio to back you up. I've seen the cookie cutter sites out there that just don't have any pizzazz.

I see the same thing in the video game industry. We design these characters and games and some make it, some don't. It depends on the talent, niche, personality.

[Greg B]

Oh, I've never found it hard to make a buck, only hard to make the time to make a buck.

One of these days the adult actors should form a union?

[softball]

"very few are going to survive the next year or two without people like nscash, medium pimpin, porn stardollars, etc in your corner"

This is like deja vu all over again. I have been hearing this mantra for years and it just isn't true.

[Hell Puppy]

The irony is the guys make nothing, but it's tougher to find a reliable stunt cock than it is to find girls. Most cocks have stage fright and/or shoot too quick or cant shoot on queue at all.

[Greg B]

Originally Posted by Hell Puppy

The irony is the guys make nothing, but it's tougher to find a reliable stunt cock than it is to find girls. Most cocks have stage fright and/or shoot too quick or cant shoot on queue at all.

That's just nature. Human males aren't supposed to be spending hours having sex. It leaves them open to predators. So the extended sex we have is due primarily to building better shelters from predators.

Turning it on and off is a matter of conditioning.

[Jace]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

"very few are going to survive the next year or two without people like nscash, medium pimpin, porn stardollars, etc in your corner"

This is like deja vu all over again. I have been hearing this mantra for years and it just isn't true.

i don't know man, the porn star site market is SO flooded, and has been for years, it is REALLY hard to make it without someone in your corner knowing what the fuck to do and how to do it

I know way more girls that tried and failed on their own, than girls that are successful at it

[HellHouse]

Jace you're right. Everyone i know, including myself, considers 5000 sold to be the porn industry equivelent of a 'gold record'

[softball]

Originally Posted by Jace

i don't know man, the porn star site market is SO flooded, and has been for years, it is REALLY hard to make it without someone in your corner knowing what the fuck to do and how to do it

I know way more girls that tried and failed on their own, than girls that are successful at it

The market is flooded for sure. But so is the hamburger market and there is still room for independants. If a girl has a USP that is in demand, she can still do well. With a few hundred members and a web cam, she can make a good living.
The girls that fail, I think, are the cookie cutter sites. They all look the same and think because they are beautiful, they will sell. It isn't beauty that sells in pornography, it is sex. Unique and interesting sex.

[Greg B]

Originally Posted by Jace

i don't know man, the porn star site market is SO flooded, and has been for years, it is REALLY hard to make it without someone in your corner knowing what the fuck to do and how to do it

I know way more girls that tried and failed on their own, than girls that are successful at it

It really depends on the personality of the actor. How well their site is laid out and of course processing support. word of email is fast. A hot site really doesn't need to advertise cause one mug will tell another and another. Some sites don't even need to be hardcore to do well.

I don't know how corporate this site is but 'Wifey's World' is very popular. It's got it's main star and her boyfriend/husband and she does the same thing in each clip. If she runs the site she should be doing well considering how popular it is.

Remember when Bang Bus started? People actually thought it was real. We laughed our asses off because we knew it was a gag. It was unique, had good performances and funnier than shit. Word of mouth shot that site and company through the roof.

I do toons. I've had umpteen gillion toonists come to me, we set up a site for them and they fell off. They had tons of traffic, great looking art but they didn't know wtf the surfer was looking for.

With almost a billion people on the web, the statistics are that probably 100 million have enough money to actually buy shit. A small site owner only needs 1,000 or more recurring to do well! 1,000 members at 10-20 bucks a month is more than enough to get by on unless you're a junkie or degenerate gambler or have child payments/alimony.

Depending on your overhead that is. Add to that affiliates and you can do extremely well if you have charm and charisma.

I'm finishing up my second affiliate program. I know right off the bat I only need ten pro level webmasters to put me over the top. Why? Because I know they know wtf they're doing. I'd rather have ten kick ass guys than 1,000 bullshitters who are only sending circle jerk traffic.

Jace, you're well respected so I ain't gonna argue here, yet you know as well as I do some people have it and some don't.