Pics from the Runaway Success show of the year, Xbiz Summer Forum 06 Vegas.....

[JFK]

Originally Posted by Hammer

Not that I'm trying to start an argument here, I just think it's funny to talk about what you refer to as the runaway success of the year and at the same time say there are too many shows. Even if I agreed that there were too many (which I don't), it wouldn't seem to make much sense to applaud a new one at the same time that you say there are too many. (Yes I realize you're tight with XBiz now so you're hyping them.)

The reason it seems that there are too many is because they are all stacked in the same 6 months of the year. Except for some minor shows, the majors start in January and end at the first of August and we have Phoenix, Cybernet, XBiz and Internext all jammed into less than a 4 month period.

If Alec wasn't so intent on fucking up AVNs summer show, it seems to me it would have made far more sense to put his in October or November in a nice warm place.

4 major shows in 6 months is too much -- even for those that can afford it -- but spreading the 4 popular shows out over an entire year instead of cramming them all into half a year would make it easier for more webmasters to attend them all and then they could all make money.

p.s. Since you make a living attending these shows and taking the photos, does it really matter to you how many there are? Just asking.

Me thinks I'm going to have to make this the topic of discussion on my new radio show.

I hope you don't take my comments personally Julius, I just disagree with your opinion and am stating my own.

Hammer first of all, I'm tight with every publication So I am an equal opportunity Hyper

Let me ask you something, if you put on a show and the attendance exceeds your expectations by a Big wide margin, would you not call it an overwhelming success? Read some of the comments on the other boards in regards to it.

Not many promoters will put a show in a nice warm place in October or November because it costs too much, if you follow the boards this has been discussed ad infinitum.

"Since you make a living attending these shows and taking the photos, does it really matter to you how many there are? Just asking."

I realize I'm biting the hand that feeds me, but I am at every show and I do hear comments in regards to it. I just brought it to the forefront. So dont kill the messenger.

"Me thinks I'm going to have to make this the topic of discussion on my new radio show."

Glad I can be an assisstance in getting you new topics, let me know what the results will be.

Btw competiton in any business is healthy, as you will get a better product ultimately.


I hope you don't take my comments personally Hammer, I just disagree with your opinion and am stating my own

oops almost forgot you can sign up here for the magazine, you will be in on the next cycle, or I will have a booth at internext, so you can get it there
http://www.fubarwebmasters.com/times.htm

[Hammer]

Thanks Julius, I'll sign up today and pick up the current issue at your booth.

I don't disagree with most of what you're saying, but it would be nice if the promoters thought more about the webmasters than their own agendas.

BTW. Gonzo and I will be conducting some live interviews at Internext and I'll be using them on my show, so maybe we can have a chat with you about this and other fascinating topics.

p.s. I'm having some crazy tshirts made to promote my new show and will be wearing them at the show and I'd love it if you could get some good shots of me. Drugs are bad, publicity are good.... mmmkay?

[JFK]

Originally Posted by Hammer

Thanks Julius, I'll sign up today and pick up the current issue at your booth.

I don't disagree with most of what you're saying, but it would be nice if the promoters thought more about the webmasters than their own agendas.

BTW. Gonzo and I will be conducting some live interviews at Internext and I'll be using them on my show, so maybe we can have a chat with you about this and other fascinating topics.

p.s. I'm having some crazy tshirts made to promote my new show and will be wearing them at the show and I'd love it if you could get some good shots of me. Drugs are bad, publicity are good.... mmmkay?

Hammer, I'd love to talk to you about Fascinating topics, they Fascinate me Also, I will be happy to take pics of you in your finery
See you guys in Fla

[Hammer]

Originally Posted by JFK

Hammer, I'd love to talk to you about Fascinating topics, they Fascinate me Also, I will be happy to take pics of you in your finery
See you guys in Fla

Fantastic. We'll take about fascinating topics in Florida, while I'm wearing my finery. I just love 'f' words.

[JFK]

Originally Posted by Hammer

Fantastic. We'll take about fascinating topics in Florida, while I'm wearing my finery. I just love 'f' words.

Fanfuckingtastic, really looking forward to finally find time to ffffffffffffffff.....eh what ever

[Hell Puppy]

I find the show scene to be fascinating....

In most other industries, shows are in decline or going thru consolidation. There used to be a tech show almost every month, Comdex, InterOp, PC Expo, etc. Now CES is really the only one of any real significance other than specialty shows.

Meanwhile, adult shows are multiplying like rabbits. Although companies dont throw around money like they used to, there's still alot of small businesses with good cash. No corporate budgets to worry about and no real concern for ROI or justification. People will show up just to party, mingle and network.

National shows may be reaching a saturation point. But I think the future is going to be regional shows. Costs very little to produce, exhibit or attend a regional show. And it has many of the same advantages. Smaller audience means there'll still be a need for nationals, but the biz is big enough to feed regionals for many areas at this point.

[StickyFingerz]

xbiz rocked!!

[JFK]

Originally Posted by Hell Puppy

I find the show scene to be fascinating....

In most other industries, shows are in decline or going thru consolidation. There used to be a tech show almost every month, Comdex, InterOp, PC Expo, etc. Now CES is really the only one of any real significance other than specialty shows.

Meanwhile, adult shows are multiplying like rabbits. Although companies dont throw around money like they used to, there's still alot of small businesses with good cash. No corporate budgets to worry about and no real concern for ROI or justification. People will show up just to party, mingle and network.

National shows may be reaching a saturation point. But I think the future is going to be regional shows. Costs very little to produce, exhibit or attend a regional show. And it has many of the same advantages. Smaller audience means there'll still be a need for nationals, but the biz is big enough to feed regionals for many areas at this point.

Sooner or later the small businesses will wake up and look for that ROI, the money pit is not bottomless. After all is said and done, its still a business and anyone who is serious about staying in it, will watch the bottom line.